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sheshe2

(98,399 posts)
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 04:36 PM Aug 2024

Look again: Something you may not have noticed about that photo...

Last edited Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

On edit. Here is the picture, many thanks to anicianita.



https://web.archive.org/web/20240830154819im_/https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/hcq_EM9hB8ZuHDvy3NE3XCxK1f4=/0x0:1767x994/976x549/media/img/mt/2024/08/Untitled_1-1/original.jpg

The now infamous ‘campaign photo’ gets even worse, at least in my opinion. I was looking at the picture again to see how they were reacting, almost all of them smiling, some with their thumbs up. However the two men, second row, far left don’t look happy at all. I enlarged the photo and noticed the second man in had two artificial limbs, the right arm and the left leg. The man to his right looks to have his arm around him, perhaps to support him. I have no way of knowing, but I am wondering if he is a veteran…one of those ‘suckers’ TSF talks about.


Note: I can’t post the picture itself but you can view it at the link. It is a safe link to a photo from The Atlantics article.


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Look again: Something you may not have noticed about that photo... (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2024 OP
They were cropped out of the earlier pics that were made public. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #1
Cropped out, I think, because Trump is disgusted by the sight of the handicapped. Mister Ed Aug 2024 #4
Absolutely correct Klarkashton Aug 2024 #5
Dotard is disgusted by ANYTHING other than himself.....and MONEY, of course... AZ8theist Aug 2024 #39
And women who don't fit his definition of a "ten." ShazzieB Aug 2024 #43
Yes, not a single one of them looks like Ivanka. StarryNite Aug 2024 #48
One of the people there put their cellphone.on Major Navas tombstone irisblue Aug 2024 #2
I believe you're thinking of the other family misanthrope Aug 2024 #33
OMG I did not notice that! SunSeeker Aug 2024 #38
That poor little girl in pink usedtobedemgurl Aug 2024 #3
She's the best of that bunch. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2024 #7
Trump told Traildogbob Aug 2024 #6
I wonder who they are? They didn't look happy at all. Srkdqltr Aug 2024 #8
Maybe they were family members and/or friends who came to the "memorial" at ANC without knowing generalbetrayus Aug 2024 #25
Am I mistaken, or does the man to the left of DT. . . pat_k Aug 2024 #9
He did. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #20
The woman in blue to Donnie's left birdographer Aug 2024 #10
He can't even do a real "thumbs up". JHB Aug 2024 #11
It is his rote pose for taking a picture. The fake smile. The thumb. tetedur Aug 2024 #12
it's what he does to make sure it's all about him Skittles Aug 2024 #37
The woman in red next to dump looks like she brer cat Aug 2024 #13
EEEWWW is right! sheshe2 Aug 2024 #14
To me, she looks like the guy behind Trump (comment 9) who looks like he got a whiff generalbetrayus Aug 2024 #23
She should have reconsidered wearing a bright red dress, or did she want to color coordinate with his tie? colorado_ufo Aug 2024 #26
She DID wear a bright red dress, wth? FullySupportDems Aug 2024 #34
Hope this helps ancianita Aug 2024 #15
Thank you, anicianita.💙 sheshe2 Aug 2024 #17
Anytime. ancianita Aug 2024 #18
TY sheshe2 Aug 2024 #19
Why would the rest put their thumbs up? What about visiting the cemetary would even involve a thumbs up? Figarosmom Aug 2024 #21
We've seen when they do this, so of course you know why. ancianita Aug 2024 #27
What a group of fucking sick weirdos Aviation Pro Aug 2024 #16
We can chat while we wait in line together. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #22
Y'all be sure to stop at the beer concession! Buns_of_Fire Aug 2024 #30
Buns - All great ideas. I've suggested Astroturf for the immediate area around the grave (let's say two.... EarnestPutz Aug 2024 #51
Like the doggie rest room at the airport. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #57
O.K. I learned something today. Not a pet owner. (Srsly? At the airport? Who knew?) EarnestPutz Aug 2024 #62
Ugh VanceFan Aug 2024 #24
I'd never refer to a Gold Star family as trash. COL Mustard Aug 2024 #28
Their loss and sacrifice is tragic. But if they like Trump for reason like racism and xenophobia ZonkerHarris Aug 2024 #31
I will continue to respectfully disagree with that connotation. COL Mustard Aug 2024 #32
Most of them have their thumbs 👍.... Butterflylady Aug 2024 #41
They're blaming Biden for their son's death. They want revenge and Trump will provide it. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #61
Yeah, we don't need to stoop to Trump's level. That's what he did and he took a huge beating. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #50
Trump now blames the families for the setup to make him look bad. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #58
The KIA may have been a Trump supporter. This is about Trump anyway. Not the families. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #47
And his twisted spawn would be the ones charging to get in line. misanthrope Aug 2024 #35
Kind of a trickle down type deal. Permanut Aug 2024 #52
This isn't an uncropped photo. This is a different picture with different people posing with him. So he did many shots ZonkerHarris Aug 2024 #29
It's the same picture that was circulated earlier Klarkashton Aug 2024 #42
Just disgusting. They look like they're having a picnic on the graves of our fallen soldiers. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2024 #40
Your point? Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2024 #54
A bad taste stunt on the part of Trump and his team. Aussie105 Aug 2024 #44
The family are just as much of scumbags Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #45
I noticed those two men -- at first I assumed they were participating ailsagirl Aug 2024 #49
It could be a friend and without a better image, I can't tell if the guy in the suit is wearing a staff lapel. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #53
Why are they smiling and thumbing up? This should be a somber moment remembering the ones killed.. question everything Aug 2024 #55
I wondered that, too ailsagirl Aug 2024 #63
It's Marine Sgt. Tyler Vargas-Andrews who is injured that day and testified against Biden. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #56
Thanks, LeftinTX. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #59
Seeing that he was in the pic with the family, butoff to the side was a clue that he may have been a "guest" of sorts. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #60

Mister Ed

(6,988 posts)
4. Cropped out, I think, because Trump is disgusted by the sight of the handicapped.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 04:43 PM
Aug 2024

He's made that clear in numerous comments over the years.

AZ8theist

(7,616 posts)
39. Dotard is disgusted by ANYTHING other than himself.....and MONEY, of course...
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:58 PM
Aug 2024

What a small, small, smooth-brained sub human.....not a single redeeming thing.

ShazzieB

(22,860 posts)
43. And women who don't fit his definition of a "ten."
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:17 PM
Aug 2024

He's repulsed by older women, fat women, flat-chested women, women of color - basically all women who aren't conventionally attractive enough for him to want to grab them by the *cough* (you know, the part of a woman he likes to grab them by).

I honestly believe the only value any woman has for the Orange Hellbeast is based on her looks. To him, women are only good for sex, being a piece of arm candy he can show off, and occasionally (when he was younger) for procreation. (He has more than enough kids at this point, so I'm sure he's done caring about the latter function.)

irisblue

(37,891 posts)
2. One of the people there put their cellphone.on Major Navas tombstone
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 04:40 PM
Aug 2024

As if his tombstone was a tabletop at a bar and no one missed or important is there for always



misanthrope

(9,623 posts)
33. I believe you're thinking of the other family
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:32 PM
Aug 2024

The family of Leeann Gee who was interred beside Navas.

SunSeeker

(58,373 posts)
38. OMG I did not notice that!
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:57 PM
Aug 2024

I can't imagine doing that at ANY cemetery, let alone Arlington!

Traildogbob

(13,156 posts)
6. Trump told
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 04:46 PM
Aug 2024

HIS generals to not allow wounded soldiers at his events. That “People don’t wanna see that”.
So I was also shocked to see THEM there, to accept Trump as their guy, or that Trump allowed them in the shot
Either way, that’s fucked up.
Maybe they are too locked into Fox Propaganda and never heard trumps demands.
So I guess we should be impressed with trumps “bravery” to be near them?

generalbetrayus

(1,983 posts)
25. Maybe they were family members and/or friends who came to the "memorial" at ANC without knowing
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:07 PM
Aug 2024

beforehand that it was actually intended to be a political photo op.

pat_k

(13,834 posts)
9. Am I mistaken, or does the man to the left of DT. . .
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:07 PM
Aug 2024

. . . in the red tie look like he has just caught whiff of a bad smell?

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
10. The woman in blue to Donnie's left
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:15 PM
Aug 2024

looks like she is shielding her child. Probably thinking "Don't even think it. Keep your hands off my daughter."

JHB

(38,326 posts)
11. He can't even do a real "thumbs up".
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:15 PM
Aug 2024

I don't even know why he thinks it's a thing to do. It looks sickly and weak, both arm and thumb drooping.

tetedur

(1,427 posts)
12. It is his rote pose for taking a picture. The fake smile. The thumb.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:27 PM
Aug 2024

You will never see him doing anything else for a picture. A long time ago he must have decided that this was the look he needed to do because he can't be natural like a human being when taking a picture.

Skittles

(172,814 posts)
37. it's what he does to make sure it's all about him
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:40 PM
Aug 2024

that and the pointing

he is disgusting

generalbetrayus

(1,983 posts)
23. To me, she looks like the guy behind Trump (comment 9) who looks like he got a whiff
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:58 PM
Aug 2024

of something fecal. A weak smile compared to Donold's, like she's glad he posed for the photo op but wishes she wasn't standing right next to him.

colorado_ufo

(6,261 posts)
26. She should have reconsidered wearing a bright red dress, or did she want to color coordinate with his tie?
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:08 PM
Aug 2024

FullySupportDems

(487 posts)
34. She DID wear a bright red dress, wth?
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:37 PM
Aug 2024

Is it cool to wear red to a memorial in a graveyard? I know nothing...

sheshe2

(98,399 posts)
17. Thank you, anicianita.💙
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:53 PM
Aug 2024

I didn’t know how to make show up. Do you mind if I put it in my OP?



Figarosmom

(13,261 posts)
21. Why would the rest put their thumbs up? What about visiting the cemetary would even involve a thumbs up?
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:57 PM
Aug 2024

Were they there to verify their loved one was really dead therefore getting a thumbs up of yeah there he is, we found him
I can see trump doing it because for him just being there is an achievement deserving of a thumbs up and a atta boy. This is just so freaked up.

ancianita

(43,341 posts)
27. We've seen when they do this, so of course you know why.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:12 PM
Aug 2024
I can see trump doing it because for him just being there is an achievement deserving of a thumbs up and a atta boy.


Mourning and grieving are performance; staying out of prison by any means necessary is real.

Aviation Pro

(15,756 posts)
16. What a group of fucking sick weirdos
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:48 PM
Aug 2024

I will pay good money to shit and piss on Motherfucker’s grave and i suspect there will be a line.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,218 posts)
30. Y'all be sure to stop at the beer concession!
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:27 PM
Aug 2024

We will have reasonably priced, foreign and domestic beers to help celebrators mourners give Dear Leader every drop of respect he deserves! Free Big Gulps for the kids and abstainers and yes, we will rent wading boots!

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
51. Buns - All great ideas. I've suggested Astroturf for the immediate area around the grave (let's say two....
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:36 PM
Aug 2024

......acres to be safe) to try to hold down on damage to plant life and the inevitable odor problem,

VanceFan

(151 posts)
24. Ugh
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 05:58 PM
Aug 2024

I appreciate the persons sacrifice but their family is trash. Trump's behavior nauseates me, and they allowed him to use their relative to make a campaign ad.

COL Mustard

(8,382 posts)
28. I'd never refer to a Gold Star family as trash.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:14 PM
Aug 2024

I might disagree with their actions and might believe they've been suckered in, but I'd never disparage them. They've been through a morass of emotions the past three years. Please reconsider your word choice.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
31. Their loss and sacrifice is tragic. But if they like Trump for reason like racism and xenophobia
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:28 PM
Aug 2024

then they are trash too.
These things aren't mutually exclusive just because of the gold star

COL Mustard

(8,382 posts)
32. I will continue to respectfully disagree with that connotation.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:30 PM
Aug 2024

They are mired in a morass of emotions and may not be capable of lucid thought. I'll give them grace even if they appear with Trump. I cannot imagine their loss.

Have a nice evening.

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
41. Most of them have their thumbs 👍....
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:09 PM
Aug 2024

For a family grieving that I find that disgusting. Do they even know what it means? Looks to me like they're having a good time.

When I go to my sons grave I cry. I don't smile and put my thumb up. My son died 15 years ago.

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
61. They're blaming Biden for their son's death. They want revenge and Trump will provide it.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 09:05 PM
Aug 2024

I've seen lots of revengeful victim's families. I've seen many, many families politicize their child's death.

Keep in mind, this is a very conservative Mormon family. Of course, they want Trump.

Bottom line: This is about Trump, not about the family. The swift boaters are looking to see if the Democrats will disparage a Gold Star family the way Trump did in 2016. Democrats and the press got all over Trump. Now they want Democrats to take the bait.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html

This is about Trump and his campaign stunt. His campaign stunt was violation of the federal law. The family is not violating federal law.

Bashing them does nothing to help Kamala win.

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
50. Yeah, we don't need to stoop to Trump's level. That's what he did and he took a huge beating.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:34 PM
Aug 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html

We're above that. Trump is running for president, not the KIA's family.

Let's make it about him and not a family who happens to be supporting him. They are not hurting anybody. We may not agree with their politics or thumbs up, but if we want to be seen as supporting vets and as Trump seen as not supporting vets, why should we disparage a family just because they're Trump supporters? We then become when we are accusing Trump of!

Us: "Trump is shitting all over Gold Star families"...

Us: "That family is..........."

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
47. The KIA may have been a Trump supporter. This is about Trump anyway. Not the families.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:27 PM
Aug 2024
Trump is running for election, not the family.

If we disparage Gold Star families because of their politics, we run the risk of what Trump did to a Gold Star family in 2016.

misanthrope

(9,623 posts)
35. And his twisted spawn would be the ones charging to get in line.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:38 PM
Aug 2024

Then they would try to screw each other out of the loot.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
29. This isn't an uncropped photo. This is a different picture with different people posing with him. So he did many shots
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:25 PM
Aug 2024

Klarkashton

(5,400 posts)
42. It's the same picture that was circulated earlier
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:16 PM
Aug 2024

There were two sets of maga people in front of different graves. The two people on the left were cropped out of this picture when first circulated.

Lonestarblue

(13,560 posts)
36. Just disgusting. They look like they're having a picnic on the graves of our fallen soldiers.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 06:39 PM
Aug 2024

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Response to Zoomie1986 (Reply #46)

Aussie105

(8,157 posts)
44. A bad taste stunt on the part of Trump and his team.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:22 PM
Aug 2024

Surrounded by confused and smiling relatives of the dead.

No idea what political mileage they expected to get from that show of crass disrespect.

Hopefully they all went away, the breeze blew away the bad smell, and Arlington went back to a place of silent reflection and sad faced mourning.
And no thumbs up.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
45. The family are just as much of scumbags
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:24 PM
Aug 2024

The Boobert lookalike on the left with the baby on her hip is standing on the neighboring grave. Her foot is clearly planted on the mound.

ailsagirl

(24,287 posts)
49. I noticed those two men -- at first I assumed they were participating
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:33 PM
Aug 2024

BUT you really nailed it!! Yes, I can see now in looking at various other photos, these men were cut out.
When you look at them closely, you see their disapproval... and their pain.

Thanks for pointing them out.

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
53. It could be a friend and without a better image, I can't tell if the guy in the suit is wearing a staff lapel.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 07:50 PM
Aug 2024

So, it could be a friend of MSGT Hoover's.
He could have been with one of the governor's staff members?
He would not be in a family picture, because he is not family?


Maybe he was injured the same attack and he was there to speak. I'm sure he's a likely vet himself and realized the "thumbs up" was not respectful.

We can't assume he's on our side or that Trump is disparaging him.
We really don't know.

question everything

(52,375 posts)
55. Why are they smiling and thumbing up? This should be a somber moment remembering the ones killed..
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 08:06 PM
Aug 2024

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
56. It's Marine Sgt. Tyler Vargas-Andrews who is injured that day and testified against Biden.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 08:06 PM
Aug 2024
An injured Marine gives searing testimony on the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan

The hearing's most compelling testimony came from Tyler Vargas-Andrews, a Marine sergeant injured in the Aug. 26, 2021 terror attack at the Abbey Gate at the Kabul airport. He recounted the events leading up to the bombing that left 13 U.S. servicemembers protecting the airport dead, many others injured and scores of Afghan civilians killed.

Vargas-Andrews said he and another Marine assigned to protect the airport received intelligence about a possible suicide bomber approaching the area. He said they spotted him and his associate in the crowd and alerted supervisors and requested authority to engage but never got it. He told the panel he believes those individuals were responsible for the attack. "Plain and simple, we were ignored," he said.

Vargas-Andrews broke down and paused several times as he described the flash of the bomb knocking him off his feet.

"My body was overwhelmed from the trauma of the blast. My abdomen had been ripped open. Every inch of my exposed body took ball bearing and shrapnel." He said no one interviewed him about the attack in the investigation that followed.


https://www.npr.org/2023/03/08/1161890168/house-republicans-hearing-withdrawal-afghanistan-biden

He's not a family member. He was there to give a speech against Biden. Ironically, he accused Biden of visiting him for a photo-op. I'm pretty sure the other guy is a congressional aide.

Marine who survived Afghanistan explosion describes awkward encounter with Biden after losing arm, leg
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/marine-survived-afghanistan-explosion-describes-awkward-encounter-biden-losing-arm-leg

LeftInTX

(34,850 posts)
60. Seeing that he was in the pic with the family, butoff to the side was a clue that he may have been a "guest" of sorts.
Fri Aug 30, 2024, 08:54 PM
Aug 2024
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