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Per Vance.
Sometimes it works out that way but at least they can buy groceries and pay the mortgage if their husband walks out.
North Shore Chicago
(4,240 posts)what they say is forever? Dumb clucks.
MLAA
(19,740 posts)Edited to add: 1953 called they want their idiot back.
COL Mustard
(8,199 posts)Im afraid were stuck with him.
Sanity Claws
(22,408 posts)And not having a career or education to engineer an escape route from him.
SheltieLover
(80,379 posts)Look at the example of RFK Jr.'s deceased ex!
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)women in misery in marriage. Vance sure has a hate on toward women, everything he says.
RandomNumbers
(19,154 posts)5 married women who really hate their life decisions to every 1 single career woman who hates hers.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)So seems to prove it. Married woman did not come out in the top three spots.
Nittersing
(8,374 posts)LizBeth
(11,222 posts)But alone as much as I have been with a man. Dont need a man to do a single damn thing, further when married never played that little stupid game. I respected husband enough to well know he could figure out what needed to be done without my direction> I did not treat him like a dumbass.
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homegirl
(1,964 posts)that so many items on those "honey do" lists are finally completed by women OR a hired Handy Person!
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)Luckily, Ive had a pretty successful career and saved and invested well. So if I need help with something I call a professional and pay them. Then they leave.
Better lots of professionals than one dumbass.
familiar
mucholderthandirt
(1,783 posts)jumptheshadow
(3,315 posts)...that Vance has Mommy issues, and it dovetails with his actual family experience, too.
evolves
(5,836 posts)Women who have the option of financial self-determination are not obligated to remain in abusive or unsatisfying relationships with men. They can walk away and not fear for their safety nor for their ability to support themselves (and their children).
flamingdem
(40,886 posts)on all television channels.
J.D. is such an idiot. All he had to do was go along with the program.
Instead he offered his own brand of lunacy.
sinkingfeeling
(57,808 posts)how happy and upbeat all my male colleagues were. When will this numbskull realize that it doesn't make one bit of difference if you have a dick or not? People react just about the same to their lot in life.
BattleRow
(2,437 posts)He IS a dick who has a dick..allegedly..
lindysalsagal
(22,903 posts)He probably invented these evaluations of women after more than a few rejections and recriminations from them.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)2naSalit
(102,714 posts)BattleRow
(2,437 posts)2naSalit
(102,714 posts)struggle4progress
(126,123 posts)onetexan
(13,913 posts)I recall reading she has a law career of her own.
flying_wahini
(8,274 posts)So by that measure she must have been a miserable woman before he married her. Right?
johnnyplankton
(633 posts)Moosepoop
(2,075 posts)The Ohio senator and vice-presidential candidate said of women like his classmates at Yale Law School that pursuing racial or gender equity is like the value system that gives their life meaning [but] they all find that that value system leads to misery.
ShazzieB
(22,568 posts)So the women he's talking about are j7st miserable because they're single. What makes them miserable is "pursuing equality"!
I guess the poor little things just need to face the facts and accept that they will never be equal. Then maybe they can find a big strong man like Shady Vance to take care of them! ***GAG RETCH BARF***
johnnyplankton
(633 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(20,000 posts)mainer
(12,550 posts)By marrying him.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)for ignorant men who think their dick entitles them to be catered to by mommy substitutes for as long as they live.
Anybody else get the feeling this guy hates his life, resents his wife for sticking him with three kids, and cant stand the idea of anyone else escaping his fate?
LisaL
(47,423 posts)Demobrat
(10,298 posts)People who are happy with their choices dont usually resent and obsess over other peoples.
Im a childfree woman who has been called selfish etc all her life because of it. Not that I care. At this point they might as well just say I hate my life and Im jealous of yours. Get a few glasses of wine in them, and theyll tell you that flat out.
GopherGal
(2,903 posts)that ran past the end of the workday because the married men with kids were avoiding going home.
Of course the boss was one of the married dads, so the meeting kept going and going and going. My favorite year was the year the boss had day-care-pickup duty and had to pay $1 per minute for late pick-up after 6 PM. I had started noticing that if a meeting lasted until 6:30 or later, almost all the talking after the scheduled end at 5 PM was by the married dads. The unmarried and married/no kids types were all going into "if I don't volunteer any more ideas hopefully the meeting will end soon" mode while the married dads kept yammering.
Oh, and when the boss said "looks like we're through the agenda, what else can we talk about?" was when I first learned that apparently I am not gifted with Sith Force-choking abilities.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)I worked in an office where the married dads would pop in a movie and break out the popcorn at 5pm. They would hang out for hours to beat the traffic. Of course the wives thought the poor dears were severely overworked. I would hear them on the phone lying their asses off. They didnt have a couple more hours worth of work to do. They just didnt want to go home.
travelingthrulife
(5,166 posts)I am a childless person who used to be a professional woman. I have not heard any of them express misery at being childless unless they had hoped and planned to have children and it didn't work out for them. Childless people's lives were usually as full and happy as anyone else's life, maybe more, because there is more money available for pleasurable and essential things. The tricky part is finding help during aging and end of life, but many people who did have children face the same problem.
Ocelot II
(130,488 posts)I had a good education, experienced two professional careers, enjoyed my work, retired comfortably with cats, and never had to depend on a man for my livelihood or safety. Of the other professional women I know, not one has said she ever regretted taking on a career instead of staying home to reproduce and to fetch and carry for a husband.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)The only ones I ever heard express disappointment at not having kids were men. Not surprising, since they dont do the work.
LisaL
(47,423 posts)LOL.
rubbersole
(11,210 posts)meow2u3
(25,250 posts)and is taking it out of women who don't fit his itty bitty mold.
Old Crank
(7,041 posts)Choose to be miserable.
Why don't tbey slap these Vance like fools down.
zorbasd
(526 posts)the vitriol does not apply to GOP women, it only applies to progressive women...you see, even GOP women pile on with no hint of hypocrisy. These are the out and out facsists.
Old Crank
(7,041 posts)In every interview why they have chosen the path to misery.
elleng
(141,926 posts)This retired professional woman is comfortable and satisfied.
Thanks, folks, for my U.S. pension.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)By all the goddesses, Usha, please rethink your life with this abusive jerk.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)Before I knew she was educated I could have sworn her parents sold her to him.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Usha clerked for not one but two Supreme Court Justices both far right. That woman is smart as a whip and hard working. But then, so is Amy Coney Barrett.
Think about it. She could go far.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)got rid of 200 pounds of dead weight. A guy like that will do everything he can to make sure she remains dependent.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Back in the day we used to call it mind-fucking. Trump definitely works that way.
Beck23
(411 posts)If my experience growing up is any indication, not all women who have children like children, so they aren't all that happy.
Demobrat
(10,298 posts)women didnt have kids because they wanted them. They had kids because they got pregnant. My mother was one.
zorbasd
(526 posts)it's teeming with "antiprofessional women" bloggers, who make alot of money on clicks.
It is truly his driving force and where he gets his ideas and statements about women.
Warpy
(114,602 posts)who followed his dick out of at least 2 marriages (and #3 is looking mighty shaky), abandoning 2 women and 4 children, although he did toss them all financial support.
JD hates his mommy for letting him down when he was a kid, we all get that. Maybe he needs to focus on his daddy, whoever he was, who impregnated his mom and moved on.
JD needs to ask himself why he didn't pursue a "career" as an unpaid domestic servant if it's such a wonderful thing.
JD needs to clean up his own shitty life before he criticizes anyone else.
Democrats want to give mothers support. JD just wants to blame us, no matter what our life path is because he hates his mommy.
iluvtennis
(21,496 posts)karynnj
(60,958 posts)As she is the professional woman he knows best, does he think her life is miserable? If not, why is he convinced other professional women are miserable? He really is weird.
Iris
(16,872 posts)dlk
(13,245 posts)There is something seriously wrong with him.
leftyladyfrommo
(20,000 posts)I don't even understand what rock he crawled out from under. I wasn't familiar with anything but his last name.
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dlk
(13,245 posts)So many of their views on women sound just like those of middle eastern religious extremists, and belong in the Dark Ages.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,458 posts)no_hypocrisy
(54,885 posts)Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)That it was telling how my MD mother, back when not many women were career women, never mind doctors, was in the minority of women wherever we lived who wasn't an alcoholic or hooked on prescription drugs.
The majority of housewives we knew were all wired on something, every single day. Some of them were so far gone that my mother wouldn't let us kids go into their homes, and we were under strict orders never to get into a car with any of them who were behind the wheel. Not unless we had a death wish.
You'd think if having one of the ultimate professional careers was so horrible for women, then my mother would have been the one on drugs. But she wasn't. She was happy. Anytime I asked her how she handled the stress of her job, she'd say, 'What stress? My work's not stressful. It's often challenging, but that's what makes it great!'
She's in her mid-80s now, still 5' nothing, and I'm pretty sure she can still take this wimpy chauvinist pig.