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Coexist

(26,202 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 04:50 PM Aug 2024

09/01/2024: The Bell Riots

Tomorrow is a big day for us Trekkies. August 30, 2024 is the first day of the timeline to catch up with us. And September 1, 2024 marks the Bell Riots. As the memes roll in from my friends, I'm re-watching it (because DS9 is some of Trek's finest storytelling. Don't come for me, I'm standing by that) and as always, I'm blown away by their forward-thinking.

While I'm glad we don't have Sanctuary Cities, it does mark the beginning of the 'Better Future" that I love so much about Star Trek, and is deftly woven through all the episodes. The Season 3 Past Tense episodes also clearly delineate the experiences, attitudes, and anger of the wealthy and the poor, and the 'otherizing' of good people. It's very timely.

This is also the first time I'd ever seen people who might be characterized as terrorists, as the good guys. It kinda rocked my world.

Anyhow, Happy Bell Riots day to those who celebrate!

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09/01/2024: The Bell Riots (Original Post) Coexist Aug 2024 OP
I made an account just to post this... MLF1981 Aug 2024 #1
Wow. I am SO very glad you made your account to share your story Coexist Aug 2024 #4
Thanks... MLF1981 Aug 2024 #10
this part, " they never took advantage of the opportunity to expand Medicaid access to the people who live here" Coexist Aug 2024 #19
Sometimes life isn't fair, and I hope something very good will come your way... electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #23
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #32
fun fact...... Takket Aug 2024 #2
That is so cool! Coexist Aug 2024 #5
Have a great time. 👍 electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #24
I got an unpleasant reminder of this from a right-wing troll in a Star Trek group... RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #3
I never get right-wing Trekkies. Trek has been woke as hell since 09/1966 Coexist Aug 2024 #7
They are drawn to the fact that Star Trek SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #11
Captain Picard: "Do you remember when we used to be explorers?" Coexist Aug 2024 #12
Yuck. Effer. electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #25
Gabriel Bell looks just like Captain Sisko SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #6
So strange??!! Coexist Aug 2024 #8
Lol... MLF1981 Aug 2024 #9
Wasn't the earliest timeline Kirk in the Depression? orthoclad Aug 2024 #13
Yep... MLF1981 Aug 2024 #15
One of the great episodes orthoclad Aug 2024 #20
Great episode (der, or was it two)! electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #26
well yes, you are correct. I guess in our lifetimes? Coexist Aug 2024 #16
Were you born after Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was set? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2024 #33
Although not on earth SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #34
I didn't watch DS9 when it originally aired. Just too Ilsa Aug 2024 #14
Right? I didn't watch it because of my dumb "how can explorers stay still" attitude Coexist Aug 2024 #17
Far Beyond the Stars is a masterpiece... MLF1981 Aug 2024 #21
Are these DS9 episodes? I never remember their titles. nt Ilsa Sep 2024 #22
Yes BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #29
Great background, thank you! Coexist Sep 2024 #41
Just epic acting, writing, direction, everything Coexist Sep 2024 #40
Well, I figured that since i like this thread, I might as well shsre this: MLF1981 Aug 2024 #18
Far Beyond The Stars - Magnificent work! So Poignant! electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #27
Death to the Opposition!!! Coexist Sep 2024 #28
Oh,what was the LD crossover? A tribble one?! electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #36
LD with Strange New Worlds Coexist Sep 2024 #37
Ty. 👍 electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #42
"The Tribbles 2.0 one. Hilarious! 😄" BumRushDaShow Sep 2024 #30
Ty! 😄🥰 "glorious chapter" electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #35
and his "we don't speak about it' about the missing forehead ridges of the Klingons in the past Coexist Sep 2024 #38
Yeah! They did a great job. electric_blue68 Sep 2024 #43
I also love Deep Space 9 LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #31
So nice to find Trekkies on here!! Coexist Sep 2024 #39

MLF1981

(211 posts)
1. I made an account just to post this...
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:27 PM
Aug 2024

So as I said, I made an account just to post this after over 20 years of lurking.

First of all, agreed, DS9 is by far the best Star Trek series. And I also am glad that we don't have Sanctuary districts, but the reality is actually much worse: we don't even offer the downtrodden and homeless that. Instead, they have to make encampments that the cops will go through and clear out, usually destroying what few possessions the dispossessed have.

They'll slash tents with knives so they can no longer be used, slash sleeping bags for the same reason, and thanks to our corrupt Supreme Court, it is perfectly legal to pass a "no sleeping in public" rule so that there is literally nowhere for the homeless to exist. I have spent time living in my car, and it's a really eye-opening experience. Where do you go to the bathroom? Sure, public restrooms exist, but not at all hours, and as well all know sometimes when you gotta go, you gotta go, as in immediately.

Where do you shower, where do you shave? I was lucky enough to find a sympathetic local gym owner so I could take care of those needs without having to pay full price on a membership, but not everyone is so fortunate. The simple fact is that as horrifying as the concept of a Sanctuary district is, it's actually a hell of a lot better than the reality for people who are struggling. At least the Sanctuary districts offered something approximating actual housing, our actual society looks at the unhoused as being lower than whale shit, and what little assistance is offered is woefully inadequate. I spent exactly one night in a shelter, when it was so damn cold that I was afraid I was going to freeze to death, and the amount of drug abuse and violence was so appalling, I never went back.

A lot of people find themselves, through no fault of their own, in a bad situation where they don't have the financial resources to get back on their feet. I've been there, and if things don't improve significantly for me in the next few months, I might be there again... I don't know if I have the fortitude to do it again. I'm not as young as I used to be, and I have some health issues (nothing major, thank God) that would make it a hell of a lot harder to live out of a car this time around. Anyway, rant off. I've always been a huge Star Trek, and especially DS9 fan, and I remember my horror at watching how early 21st Century America just threw these people away. Little did I know that the course of my own life would teach me that the reality is actually much, much worse.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
4. Wow. I am SO very glad you made your account to share your story
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:56 PM
Aug 2024

I can't pretend I've experienced what you have, and I'm very sorry that you, and everyone else in that position, has to suffer.

"Tell people the truth about what happened here". You just did that, and I thank you for the education and hope to see you around here, now that you're official

MLF1981

(211 posts)
10. Thanks...
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 07:28 PM
Aug 2024

I really appreciate that I wasn't just shouting into the void here. What happened to me is that I lost my job in the crash of 2008, and eventually my savings ran out, I couldn't find another job, and I ended up living in my car. It definitely didn't help matters that I was living in one of the reddest of the red states (TN, where I still am now) because any social services that are offered are as I said before, woefully inadequate, and are usually restricted to people with young children.

For example, Tennessee politicians decided, in their infinite wisdom, that they didn't want any of that there Obamacare socialism crap, so they never took advantage of the opportunity to expand Medicaid access to the people who live here. Ironically, WV and KY both did, and those states are even more conservative and impoverished than my chunk of Appalachia.

Getting back on my feet took years, literally. I thought about ending it all more often than I'd care to think about, and thankfully I didn't. I'd love to be able to tell you that everything worked out hunky-dory, but sadly that isn't the case. I've been working blue-collar jobs for the past ten years, but as my health deteriorates, it's getting harder and harder to keep up with the demands of my job. I'm no spring chicken any more, and being on my feet for 12 hours a day or more is just killing me. Without getting into too much detail, I have conditions that make it impossible for me to do my work effectively in the long run, and maybe in the short run as well.

The saddest thing to me is that I have a great education, an MBA from a well-respected state school, and an MS in HR management. But the sad fact is that if you've had a non-traditional life that isn't just one white-collar job after another in an unbroken progression, that doesn't matter. You are damaged goods, and why in the world would someone hire you instead of the 25 year old person with stellar credentials? Forget the fact that I've actually done that kind of work at a semi-senior level, nope, I'm just not a "viable candidate" because I've experienced some setbacks along the way.

Anyway, apologies for making this all about me. I try not to be bitter and resentful, but to be honest life has taught me that it ain't fair, and that's not going to change in the foreseeable future.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
19. this part, " they never took advantage of the opportunity to expand Medicaid access to the people who live here"
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 08:55 PM
Aug 2024

that is the same thing DeSantis did in Florida. It does nothing but hurt people who have the least. It's cruel. I really hope you find solid footing

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
23. Sometimes life isn't fair, and I hope something very good will come your way...
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 04:04 AM
Sep 2024

I also wonder if some gentle tai chi forms would help you at least some physically.

Just a thought.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
2. fun fact......
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:40 PM
Aug 2024

my username is actually based on a card from the Star Trek Customizable Card Game. Every year a still very loyal group of players holds a world championship for the game, alternating between the USA and Europe. This year's world championship is happening THIS WEEKEND in San Francisco in honor of that episode, and they released a few new cards based on those characters...

https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=7530
https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=7532
https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=7533
https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=7534

and.... me lol

https://www.trekcc.org/1e/?cardID=377

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
5. That is so cool!
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:57 PM
Aug 2024

I'm gonna head to Nashville TrekCon .. and ... (SO EXCITED!) I'll be on the cruise next March!

RidinWithHarris

(790 posts)
3. I got an unpleasant reminder of this from a right-wing troll in a Star Trek group...
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:44 PM
Aug 2024

...showing pictures of the Bell Riots captioned "Kamala's America".

Never mind, of course, that poverty and crime are worst in red states.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
7. I never get right-wing Trekkies. Trek has been woke as hell since 09/1966
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 06:59 PM
Aug 2024

and it wasn't liberals who have historically rounded up "undesirables"

SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
11. They are drawn to the fact that Star Trek
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 07:39 PM
Aug 2024

is about a military organization. That’s what they see and ignore everything else.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
15. Yep...
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 08:41 PM
Aug 2024

City on the Edge of Forever, starring Joan Collins as Edith Keeler. One of my faves.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
20. One of the great episodes
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 09:38 PM
Aug 2024

I think Harlan Ellison had problems with some of the rewrite, but he was a thorny (and brilliant) character.

TOS blew me away with episodes by the brightest lights of SF.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
33. Were you born after Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home was set?
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 06:01 PM
Sep 2024

Or there's "Tomorrow is Yesterday", (TOS) where they're back in the 1960s and they have to beam an air force pilot aboard.

Ilsa

(64,368 posts)
14. I didn't watch DS9 when it originally aired. Just too
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 08:03 PM
Aug 2024

much of my life was happening then.

I watched it all about 5 years ago and loved it as much, maybe more, than NextGen. I have too many favorite episodes. Wonderful story arc.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
17. Right? I didn't watch it because of my dumb "how can explorers stay still" attitude
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 08:44 PM
Aug 2024

and when I did - wow! Avery Brooks in "Far Beyond the Stars". Omg.

MLF1981

(211 posts)
21. Far Beyond the Stars is a masterpiece...
Sat Aug 31, 2024, 11:04 PM
Aug 2024

Close second is "In the Pale Moonlight". Dark, but realistic when you consider the stakes.

Far Beyond the Stars is just on another level though. Avery Brooks' direction was amazing. Nobody could have done a better job of bringing that script to life. When he goes down to the ground screaming "IT'S REAL!" and sobs for his very soul, you'd have to have a heart made of stone to not cry with him over the injustice of it all...

BumRushDaShow

(169,755 posts)
29. Yes
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 09:36 AM
Sep 2024

The DS9 storylines were done in multi-episode "arcs" during the latter years of the series, notably during the Dominion War backdrop.

There was a lot of controversy when the series ran because one group of the fandom were virulently against the idea of the Federation being engaged in a "war" and believed that Roddenberry would object.

But Majel Barrett (-Roddenberry), who managed to appear, either "in person" as a character or through her voice, in all the series prior to the latest set that came out after she passed, gave her blessing to DS9 (as did son Eugene).

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
27. Far Beyond The Stars - Magnificent work! So Poignant!
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 04:35 AM
Sep 2024

And, yes, The Bell Riots was so good, and poignant!

Two of my favorite DS9, and over all Trek episodes.

And as far as Comedy goes two of my favorite Trek eps are from DS9. The Tribbles 2.0 one. Hilarious! 😄

Having grown up on baseball The Niners vs The Vulcans baseball team is fabulous!
😄 ⚾️ 🥰



Coexist

(26,202 posts)
28. Death to the Opposition!!!
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 08:21 AM
Sep 2024

and that crossover is one of the best things ever created! that and the Lower Decks crossover

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
37. LD with Strange New Worlds
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 07:20 PM
Sep 2024

Oh my gosh you have to see it! Keep in mind that Jonathan Frakes directed it when you see the ad lib from Boimler. You'll recognize it when you see it

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
38. and his "we don't speak about it' about the missing forehead ridges of the Klingons in the past
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 07:22 PM
Sep 2024
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