How In The Hell Is Netanyahu Still In Power ???

[Rubyshoo]

Link to tweet

[Think. Again.]

1. He's a rightwinger, they don't go by what the population wants.

Edit to add:

and rightwingers certainly DON'T want a ceasefire.

[former9thward]

6. Israel is like the U.S. -- they have elections.

People are not turned out of power by demonstrations. Do you think that is what should happen?

[Gaytano70]

9. Didn't bibi lose the last election?

[former9thward]

19. No.

[Gaytano70]

28. My bad. He was removed in 2021, then won again in 2022. I forgot about how that went down. Uhh ghh 😖

[Think. Again.]

11. Yeah, netanyahu is a rightwinger, they're not interested in hearing from their constituents.

[PufPuf23]

14. What should Israelis do to change the status quo?

Status quo is no hostage release and war being expanded to the West Bank and Lebanon.

Do you think this is a good thing?

Like most wars, ideologues and greed heads like the war while Israel's economy suffers and most citizens cannot lead a peaceful and productive lives.

The USA protesters for Vietnam and the Iraq War were correct. The USA suffered lost and damaged lives while the rich got richer.

[former9thward]

21. They should vote for a party which reflects their interests.

That is how Israeli elections work.

[Eko]

17. Not quite.

He is a prime minister and if he lost 5 members of his coalition he would loose power and elections would have to be held within 3 months.

[former9thward]

20. But that has not happened.

[Eko]

22. Doesn't change the fact.

That there doesn't need to be an election for him to lose his position as prime minister.

[former9thward]

23. If what you said happened a new election would be called.

As has happened many times in the past. Unlike Gaza and the Arab states which live under dictatorships.

[Eko]

24. Thanks.

[Rubyshoo]

2. Another Pic...

Link to tweet

[onecaliberal]

3. The same way the felon is running for president.

[Rubyshoo]

4. Is This What They Meant By - Through The Looking Glass ?

[onecaliberal]

10. No one is stopping them. They will go until they are stopped.

The top law enforcement officer in our country has gone after President Biden and his son Hunter. Meanwhile a wide conspiracy against the U.S. government has continued unabated for 4 years. It includes the wives of Supreme Court Justices. And that is a whole other can of worms that has been allowed to shit on the constitution.

[Doc Sportello]

5. These demonstrations won't make any difference

Per a CNN reporter on the scene: said that the demonstrators know they won't make a difference and that Yahu will remain in power and won't change his stance. Sounds like an autocrat to me.

[former9thward]

7. Do you think demonstrations should overturn elections?

I don't.

[Rubyshoo]

8. Well... Demonstrations Helped End A War In Vietnam... I Know That

[former9thward]

16. We still had our regular elections during that period.

[iemanja]

25. Demonstrations affected Johnson's decision

Not to seek reelection.

[LeftInTX]

36. Netanyahu was appointed by the president of Israel because his party won the most seats in the election.

The party which is most likely to form a coalition is appointed by the president. Netanyahu is head of Likud Party. If he resigns from Likud Party, then he won't be Prime Minister. Then someone else will take his place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Israel

Israel elections are complicated because they have so many parties. It's not a two party system. Likud combines with other parties. The other parties are the "opposition" parties and they have their own coalition. However, after an election the parties decide which coalition they want to join. Do they want to join Likud or the other parties' coalition? Often, they don't know until a week or so after the election who won the election because the parties themselves don't decide their alignment until after the election.

Likud and other parties do horse trading to get parties to join their coalition. If Likud cannot form a coalition, the president will appoint another prime minister.

If during the course of time a party switches coalitions, then a new prime minister may be appointed if it changes the balance. So, in order to get rid of Netanyahu right now, a significant number of parties would need to leave the Likud coalition and join the opposition coalition. If the opposition coalition becomes the majority, then a new prime minister is appointed. I believe that person would be Yair Lapid or Benny Gantz.

[iemanja]

39. Right, I recall it took a while after their

Last election. I know our systems aren’t comparable.

[Rubyshoo]

27. True... But If Not For The Demonstrations, How Many More Years Would That War Have Gone On ???

The demonstrations tend to show the public sentiment.

The public sentiment turned against the war.

And the public sentiment is where the votes are.

Easy, peasy...

[former9thward]

30. I was one of those participating and organizing those demonstrations.

I noticed one thing. When the draft was ended the demonstrations largely vanished. The war went on but it was very difficult to get people involved in anti-war activities. The anti-war movement shifted from the streets to lobbying Congress. That is when the war effectively ended, and it no longer had any real support in Congress. Our participation finally ended in early 1973 (after Nixon was re-elected in a landslide).

[LeftInTX]

38. For the Vietnam War, it was eight over years.

Demonstrations began in 1963 and the war ended in 1973. However, it appears they started up with intensity in 1965.

[Think. Again.]

13. I've never heard of a demonstration to overturn an election...

...unless you consider Jan. 6 a "demonstration".

Anyway, this particular demonstration is calling for a ceasefire.

[former9thward]

18. Maybe you should read the post of the poster I replied to.

[iemanja]

26. Demonstrations have brought down entire governments

In the Soviet bloc, for example.

[PufPuf23]

33. Do you think politicians should serve their most numerous constituents or wealth and

ideology?

The political system in Israel is not the same as in the United States.

Do you think Trump should have been impeached?

[former9thward]

40. I oppose impeachments which are purely meant to throw red meat at the base.

Which means they were not serious impeachments. The Clinton impeachment and the two Trump impeachments are examples where everyone knew there was no chance of conviction, but they wanted some PR for the base.

As far as your first question I wish political parties in the U.S. were based on ideology. They are not. They are based on regional and various interest group coalitions to win elections. What was in the Democratic party platform at the recent convention? I did not see a single post on DU discussing it.

[senseandsensibility]

12. It's more than demonstrations

They are going to "stop the country" with a nationwide strike tomorrow. They are working to close everything down, including the airports.

[Doc Sportello]

35. Sorry for being cynical

But I don't see that changing the Israeli government or yahu's intentions, or that of the other hardliners. Neither he nor ius supporters care about what the internal opposition does, or about civilian casualties, or anything else but staying in power and getting rid of as many Palestinians as they can.

[Hekate]

15. How in the hell is Trump still walking this Earth? Here's what I saw in 2017: it's worldwide

The world is experiencing a political shift toward fascism, and we Americans are not the only ones. It happens when people are afraid, or are persuaded to be afraid. Great change is frightening — climate, technology, you-name-it. And fear makes people angry.

You know what to do: engage, GOTV, all that. This is the work of our time.

[sabbat hunter]

29. bibi is propped up

by far right wing parties. In the last election in Israel, Bibi got about 23% of the total vote, his far right wing allies 10%. UTJ, and Shas combined got 14%. Israel suffers from fairly low threshold to get a seat in Knesset, 3.25%. It used to be 2%. Israel would benefit from a higher threshold, or a ranked choice voting system.
Out of 4.8 million votes cast, Bibi only got 1.1 million.

People in Israel are calling for a nationwide strike tomorrow, and immediate cease fire in Gaza to bring the rest of the hostages home.

IMHO Bibi thought that dead hostages coming home would have the country rally around him to wipe out the rest of Gaza. Instead it has backfired, bringing more people in to their Peace Now agreement.

[former9thward]

32. The Labour party in the UK only got 33.7% of the vote in this year's election.

Which means 66.3% voted for other parties. Yet they won the election. That is how a parliamentary system works. But people seem to only complain about the parliamentary system in Israel as if something dirty or illegal is going on. I wonder why....

[sabbat hunter]

34. The UK

Has a first past the post system, so even though Labour only got 33.7% of the vote, they got a huge majority in parliament. Both countries would benefit IMHO from ranked choice voting.

[Trueblue1968]

31. I think he should be removed

[DemonGoddess]

37. Keeping the war going

to avoid prosecution and jail. That's how.

[moondust]

41. CNN: 550,000 protesters in Tel Aviv

My question on the impasse:

If Hamas agrees to Bibi's demand that Israel keep control of the Philadelphi corridor through which Hamas apparently moves its weapons acquisitions, would Hamas have some other way to import weapons into Gaza? Seems obvious that Israel would want to keep that border under close observation to stop any weapons deliveries.