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PCIntern

(28,367 posts)
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:38 AM Sep 2024

Ok...CNN just now (Monday morning):

Last edited Tue Sep 3, 2024, 09:00 AM - Edit history (1)

Poll shows Harris with a “narrow but sizable lead”.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?


And they have David Durban, Republican whore and shill, reading Trump attributes from the poll, and the usual smiling Democrat on the other side who doesn’t refute idiot’s well-rehearsed talking points.

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Ok...CNN just now (Monday morning): (Original Post) PCIntern Sep 2024 OP
translation DonCoquixote Sep 2024 #1
It helps us liberalgunwilltravel Sep 2024 #23
I agree. BlueKota Sep 2024 #28
Yep. Mr.Bill Sep 2024 #43
The reverse is probably true Cirsium Sep 2024 #44
Definitely! Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #92
Their Content Is Mostly Free Anyway ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #68
I would think epreic01 Sep 2024 #83
They press corp today wouldn't know how to look for or gather real news. Magoo48 Sep 2024 #90
Whereas the Felon (R) has a narrow but sizeable ego BoRaGard Sep 2024 #2
Unlike his penis * Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #49
Cue republican mushroom NJCher Sep 2024 #60
Stormy's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live is historic and should be preserved in the National Archives Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #62
one of the NJCher Sep 2024 #70
If the situation was reversed, as it was two months ago Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #4
Might mean greater than the margin of error? Ocelot II Sep 2024 #5
Small, but Huge! getagrip_already Sep 2024 #6
MAGA morph BattleRow Sep 2024 #31
War is peace. Wednesdays Sep 2024 #32
And Winston loved Big Brother ms liberty Sep 2024 #52
Same but different Seinan Sensei Sep 2024 #69
CNN is really annoying. They had that miserable shill Scott something or other on this morning Vinca Sep 2024 #7
It was 2-3 points going in for some polls, a dead heat for others, and she was behind in ABC-IPSOS lees1975 Sep 2024 #8
Seen on FB: And just like that, age & mental competency are no longer issues. -nt CrispyQ Sep 2024 #11
I haven't seen any Harris signs yet. I think people are still ordering the items. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #21
Ours just shipped.... getagrip_already Sep 2024 #34
I was being tongue in cheek. lees1975 Sep 2024 #37
hah NJCher Sep 2024 #67
I had a guy and his wife follow me to a restaurant tavernier Sep 2024 #54
I've Seen Some Around Here ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #71
Liberals are more reluctant to put up signs Zoomie1986 Sep 2024 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #88
Whoever said that should not be invited back William Seger Sep 2024 #74
And Herr Drumpf got a post-convention nosedive Zambero Sep 2024 #80
It's a sizable national lead, but tight in what matters in USA-- Electoral College. Silent Type Sep 2024 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #14
The EC polls take time to catch up with national polls ColinC Sep 2024 #36
All the more reason to DO AWAY WITH the damned Electoral College. calimary Sep 2024 #58
I no longer think about that because it's just not happening within next 25 years. If we have a Constitutional Silent Type Sep 2024 #61
Well, there is that. calimary Sep 2024 #63
Basically tied in swing states womanofthehills Sep 2024 #86
Both siderism sentence. Liberal In Texas Sep 2024 #10
That doesnt compute "a narrow but doc03 Sep 2024 #12
An OXYMORON is just that. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2024 #13
Exactly!! wordstroken Sep 2024 #42
I just don't understand why people watch this shit. Bev54 Sep 2024 #15
More journalistic malpractice. paleotn Sep 2024 #16
What ProudMNDemocrat says, only to add, don't let the oxymorons get you down, PC. ancianita Sep 2024 #17
Add to the list ... lpbk2713 Sep 2024 #18
Compassionate Conservative. dchill Sep 2024 #20
Slavery is freedom.... getagrip_already Sep 2024 #38
It's just evidence that their contracts require that... dchill Sep 2024 #19
It's like the hole in CNN's head, narrow but sizable. nt miyazaki Sep 2024 #22
Kinda like the slit BattleRow Sep 2024 #35
Narrow lead in several swing states IronLionZion Sep 2024 #24
I wouldn't suggest using that line when a significant other... Hugin Sep 2024 #25
Lol FemDemERA Sep 2024 #96
My pleasure. Hugin Sep 2024 #97
Was this a chiron or a talking head spewing stupidity? onetexan Sep 2024 #26
Chyron and people on panel. PCIntern Sep 2024 #64
It's twelve inches but pencil thin. Narrow but sizable. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #27
You know, big but small. CanonRay Sep 2024 #29
Another reason I never watch CNN kimbutgar Sep 2024 #30
It means they need to find a Harris "scandal" pronto. 617Blue Sep 2024 #33
"Harris is winning! Why that's bad news for Harris" NameAlreadyTaken Sep 2024 #39
REALLY what the f DOES that mean??? elleng Sep 2024 #40
Isn't CNN now controlled by a Republican fascist?? hadEnuf Sep 2024 #41
teevee gnewz needs close for ratings. so they are gonna assist their golden ratings squirrel for $$$$. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #45
They are probably made to agree (before considered as "guests") that they Will Not refute the Magat's BS. Evolve Dammit Sep 2024 #46
It's the giant shrimp of leads! Scrivener7 Sep 2024 #47
I thought Nate Silver said stable after convention bump was the big thing arlyellowdog Sep 2024 #48
Friends don't let friends watch broadcast "news" NT BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #50
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DOES THAT MEAN? hahahha LizBeth Sep 2024 #51
My bank account balance is small, yet sizable. Island Blue Sep 2024 #53
I can't abide baldy mafioso or step n fetch Funtatlaguy Sep 2024 #55
CNN sucks. Just my opinion. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #56
Just CNN's double standards. Will become more blatant in the future. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #57
Country is in sad shape when the orange nutjob is even in the running with a chance. OverBurn Sep 2024 #59
Ironic, joanbarnes Sep 2024 #65
Two things - does ANYONE really care what's said on CNN and who cares NoMoreRepugs Sep 2024 #66
I'm so sorry, PC. Has no one liberated you by instruction in the first law of Buddhism? jaxexpat Sep 2024 #72
So very many of the MSM talking heads would not have graduated from my old J school. They seem to have no clues at all Ford_Prefect Sep 2024 #75
CNN is worse than useless. barbtries Sep 2024 #76
Thanks for watching that nonsense wryter2000 Sep 2024 #77
A national poll with a small lead... Mike Nelson Sep 2024 #78
Then they need to say so... PCIntern Sep 2024 #79
We need to change that arcane BS. czarjak Sep 2024 #82
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2024 #81
They copied the Onion headline from two weeks ago Woodwizard Sep 2024 #84
It means CNN is pandering to right wingers. SunSeeker Sep 2024 #85
CNN is owned by a Chump lover. They are shills for the Felon. Hassler Sep 2024 #87
Like an Oxymoron winagawaukee Sep 2024 #89
"narrow but sizable lead". Aussie105 Sep 2024 #91
Creative and funny! PCIntern Sep 2024 #93
Did they explain how leading at this point in the race is actually bad for Harris? GoYouPackersGo Sep 2024 #94
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg Sep 2024 #95

DonCoquixote

(13,961 posts)
1. translation
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:41 AM
Sep 2024

"we need to keep this a horse race so we can spend the next few years using Trump as free content, instead of reporting the news.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,213 posts)
23. It helps us
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:24 AM
Sep 2024

It's better to believe that we are underdogs and fight like hell to make sure we get out the vote, rather than be over confident and wake up with a dictator on November 6th.

BlueKota

(5,345 posts)
28. I agree.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:33 AM
Sep 2024

If people think Democrats are guaranteed victory, they might feel things like, "oh the weather sucks, or I've got other things I need to do, we are winning anyway so I really don't have to go vote."

Cirsium

(3,943 posts)
44. The reverse is probably true
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:08 PM
Sep 2024

The bandwagon effect is more powerful. Thinking we are underdogs may motivate a few of us here, although I can't imagine that any of us need more motivation. But the general public likes to get behind and associate themselves with the winning team.

epreic01

(262 posts)
83. I would think
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:53 PM
Sep 2024

The argument could be made that Trump losing will be better for the MSM. Hell have a long public meltdown. He will stand trial for all his crimes…
But you’re right they do sanitize every outrageous thing he does. To an uninformed viewer they tune in and think, we’ll they don’t seem to think this is that big of a deal, must not be…

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
62. Stormy's appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live is historic and should be preserved in the National Archives
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:00 PM
Sep 2024

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
70. one of the
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:10 PM
Sep 2024

funniest moments in television!

Hey, can you believe spell check changed my spelling on the subject line of my post above?

Cue poster republian mushroom!

_________

On edit: This (video) is what I think of when certain posters sit in their angry chair and throw a tantrum because trump isn't in jail for their personal favorite crime. Come on already: how would you like to have your dick (or lack thereof) being discussed on national television? And so vividly, too!

Tell me that's not a form of punishment.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
3. If the situation was reversed, as it was two months ago
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:41 AM
Sep 2024

the media narrative would be quite different.

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
6. Small, but Huge!
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:42 AM
Sep 2024

Narrow, yet wide.

Shallow, but deep.

Tied, yet winning.

Stupid, but brilliant.

Vinca

(53,994 posts)
7. CNN is really annoying. They had that miserable shill Scott something or other on this morning
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:42 AM
Sep 2024

and were talking about how Harris didn't get a convention bump. She was leading Trump by about 6 points going in and she's leading him about 6 points now. I interpret that as people deciding immediately they want a sane POTUS over a nutjob.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
8. It was 2-3 points going in for some polls, a dead heat for others, and she was behind in ABC-IPSOS
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 10:49 AM
Sep 2024

Going in, or at least that's what they were reporting. Who knows? They are all over the place. A week ago we had people posting that the voter registration data was showing Democrats lagging behind, in spite of seeing an actual surge in registration. Then, suddenly, there's a media dump, all at once, that shows registrations soaring for Democrats. It was all over the news all the time when Republicans seemed to be making small gains, but now that the Democrats had this huge surge, it got covered once and that's it, done.

Obviously she got a decent convention bump, she was behind in several battleground states and now leads in all. Or so the polls say, at least the ones I can find and selectively quote the same way the media does.

I saw two different networks, CNN and NBC, cite contradictory polling data, one said she's up by 2 in PA, one said she's up by 6 in PA.

So I'm looking at other factors indicating voter enthusiasm that might be more accurate, such as yard signs. Since the DNC, the blue Harris Walz signs have popped up everywhere, driving to work on Friday, I counted 102 Harris-Walz, 5 Pro-Union and 2 curling Trump signs without Vance. So there you go.



getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
34. Ours just shipped....
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:53 AM
Sep 2024

The offial signs are running late. You have to buy unofficial ones if you want them immediately.

Of course, the campaign doesnt get the profit.

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
37. I was being tongue in cheek.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sep 2024

I don't think my anecdotal yard sign count, which occurs along streets in the city of Chicago, is a determining factor in where voters are. I think yard signs are available here because we had the DNC and they handed out thousands of them. Even so, Harris will get 85% of the vote in the city.

But, I do think we are not seeing the full effect of what is actually going on. Democrats have a ground game that I have not seen work like this since 2008, when Obama beat McCain. The voter registration, which was something polls were using to factor voter "enthusiasm" has shot way up for Democrats in a couple of weeks, as numbers are counted and recorded and released. We had people here moaning about the numbers in the 13 states where party registration is tracked, because the GOP had a slight edge. That got wiped out fast.

And I get why polls are being cautious. One, the media outlets that own them lose money when their viewership goes down and they want to make this exciting to attract viewers and two, they've been way out of their comfort zone for four election cycles now, and they have to do a lot of rebounding with false narratives and past-dated articles to defend themselves.

NJCher

(43,165 posts)
67. hah
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:06 PM
Sep 2024
polls are being cautious.

Polls are not cautious.

People can be, if they so choose.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
54. I had a guy and his wife follow me to a restaurant
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:38 PM
Sep 2024

yesterday morning when I went out for breakfast to tell me they loved my Harris Walz bumper sticker. He was so excited, telling me it was the first one he has seen this year. My area of the Keys is pretty red, although further south in Key West it gets bluer.

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
71. I've Seen Some Around Here
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:10 PM
Sep 2024

And, if this is at all meaningful, I see fewer TFG signs than in either '16 or '20. And, there were already fewer of them in '20 than in '16.
I've probably a half-dozen Harris signs over the last week.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
73. Liberals are more reluctant to put up signs
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:18 PM
Sep 2024

They know how violent the white wingers are.

Response to Zoomie1986 (Reply #73)

William Seger

(12,443 posts)
74. Whoever said that should not be invited back
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:21 PM
Sep 2024

Ignorant or lying, doesn't matter. She absolutely got a convention bounce, unless you consider it just a continuation of the momentum she had before the convention.

Zambero

(9,990 posts)
80. And Herr Drumpf got a post-convention nosedive
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:45 PM
Sep 2024

All things being relative, guess which ticket has performed best?

Response to Silent Type (Reply #9)

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
36. The EC polls take time to catch up with national polls
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:58 AM
Sep 2024

6 points is likely a fairly comfortable EC lead even if the individual polls don’t show it yet. Simply put she’s loving in the right direction but there’s work to be done.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
58. All the more reason to DO AWAY WITH the damned Electoral College.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:53 PM
Sep 2024

Time to drop out of that artificial construct that too often thwarts the vote of the people.

The VOTERS should speak, and that should be the end of it.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
61. I no longer think about that because it's just not happening within next 25 years. If we have a Constitutional
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:58 PM
Sep 2024

convention, we'll likely come out worse than what we have now. That's the unfortunate reality.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
13. An OXYMORON is just that.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:07 AM
Sep 2024

One cannot have a "narrow but sizable" lead.

It is EITHER narrow or sizable. Sheesh!

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
16. More journalistic malpractice.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:16 AM
Sep 2024

Whoever said or wrote that, did they take a stupid test to get that job?

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
17. What ProudMNDemocrat says, only to add, don't let the oxymorons get you down, PC.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:17 AM
Sep 2024
62 days out we need to refuse to be fazed by corporate media hype and keep our eyes on the prize.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
38. Slavery is freedom....
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:59 AM
Sep 2024

Voting is undemocratic

Constitutional autocracy

Stop the count to assure electoral integrity

Federal land belongs to the states

dchill

(42,660 posts)
19. It's just evidence that their contracts require that...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:19 AM
Sep 2024

... regardless of the size of any Democrat's lead, it MUST BE CHARACTERIZED AS NARROW!

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
24. Narrow lead in several swing states
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:25 AM
Sep 2024

sizeable is the number of states. But it's narrow in each one.

The takeaway is momentum is still favoring us so let's not get complacent. It's not over until it's over. We have to work for it.

Hugin

(37,848 posts)
25. I wouldn't suggest using that line when a significant other...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:28 AM
Sep 2024

Asks if these jeans make their hiney look fat.

It can’t end well.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
30. Another reason I never watch CNN
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 11:36 AM
Sep 2024

The only exception was the Harris/Walz interview probably the longest I’ve watched that network in at least 20 years.

Though they did have an Andersen cooper show on talking about magas that I watched for 15 minutes

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
41. Isn't CNN now controlled by a Republican fascist??
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:05 PM
Sep 2024

If so, then this type of BS is par for the course and actual news is not on the agenda.

pansypoo53219

(23,034 posts)
45. teevee gnewz needs close for ratings. so they are gonna assist their golden ratings squirrel for $$$$.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:09 PM
Sep 2024

democracy + truth meh.

Evolve Dammit

(21,777 posts)
46. They are probably made to agree (before considered as "guests") that they Will Not refute the Magat's BS.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:10 PM
Sep 2024

arlyellowdog

(1,430 posts)
48. I thought Nate Silver said stable after convention bump was the big thing
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:16 PM
Sep 2024

I though he said that if Harris could hold the line that was the winning thing.

Funtatlaguy

(11,878 posts)
55. I can't abide baldy mafioso or step n fetch
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:38 PM
Sep 2024

Shermichael on CNN. I change the channel so that I don’t throw something at the tv 📺 at those lying pricks .

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
57. Just CNN's double standards. Will become more blatant in the future.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:47 PM
Sep 2024

“narrow but sizable lead”, meaning the convicted felon is getting the shit kick out of him at the polls. But CNN must protect that golden cow, for viewers rating.

OverBurn

(1,292 posts)
59. Country is in sad shape when the orange nutjob is even in the running with a chance.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 12:54 PM
Sep 2024

It's just hard to believe he has so many cult members.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,076 posts)
66. Two things - does ANYONE really care what's said on CNN and who cares
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:05 PM
Sep 2024

what “polling” says? It’s obvious Harris has unbelievable momentum and the SlobFather cannot stop looking wholly incompetent.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
72. I'm so sorry, PC. Has no one liberated you by instruction in the first law of Buddhism?
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:10 PM
Sep 2024

"The road to inner peace and enlightenment does a crazy big detour around cable news logic", Sidhartha 101. It's more detailed on the dust jacket version.

Ford_Prefect

(8,610 posts)
75. So very many of the MSM talking heads would not have graduated from my old J school. They seem to have no clues at all
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:23 PM
Sep 2024

how to do the job properly. Too many are just failed actors who have nice hair and expensive teeth. Their chief ability seems to be the capacity to cheer-lead emotions while reading from a cue card, or a GOP press release. My tenth grade English class would have weeded many of them out. How does a reporter get the interview or press conference assignment and have no follow-up questions to ask?

And we will omit comment on the quality of editing that defines so much of what is seen and heard since the language required doesn't bear public expression.

barbtries

(31,308 posts)
76. CNN is worse than useless.
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:26 PM
Sep 2024

DU aggregates the news for me - I read widely. Of late I have observed nothing good to say about CNN. maybe stop watching?

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
78. A national poll with a small lead...
Mon Sep 2, 2024, 01:40 PM
Sep 2024

... means we're behind. The Electoral College picks the President.

Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
91. "narrow but sizable lead".
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 04:50 AM
Sep 2024

This means simply:

The lead is there, it is significant, but we'd like to think of it as being something we hope we can ignore soon.
We definitely prefer to ignore it now.

Expect more convoluted non-communication if the difference becomes bigger.

GoYouPackersGo

(233 posts)
94. Did they explain how leading at this point in the race is actually bad for Harris?
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 07:47 AM
Sep 2024

I mean it has to be, somehow, doesn't it?

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
95. Ha, ha, ha!
Tue Sep 3, 2024, 08:47 AM
Sep 2024

I haven't turned on the news in 4 or 5 days and I feel considerably smarter because of it.

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