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Nevilledog

(55,131 posts)
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 12:42 PM Sep 2024

Netanyahu derailed a potential Gaza hostage deal in July, Israeli newspaper reports

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/04/middleeast/netanyahu-derailed-hostage-deal-in-july-intl/index.html


CNN

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in July effectively spiked a draft hostage and ceasefire deal by introducing a raft of new, 11th-hour demands, according to a report by the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth citing a document it obtained.

The report lends credence to charges often leveled at the prime minister – most notably by hostage families – of purposefully prolonging the war and torpedoing deals for his political benefit. Far-right members of Netanyahu’s coalition have pledged to bring down the government should he end the war.

Several news outlets, including CNN, have reported on the late July demands made by Netanyahu, but this is the first time the Israeli document has been obtained in full.

According to the newspaper, at least three of six hostages found dead in Gaza by the Israel Defense Forces over the weekend were due for release as part of the May draft agreement – Carmel Gat, Aden Yerushalmi, and Hersh Goldberg-Polin.

The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office in August confirmed to CNN the existence of the document but denied that it added “new conditions to the May 27 proposal.” The statement came in response to a report by the same Israeli correspondent who wrote the Yedioth Ahronoth report, Ronen Bergman, this time in The New York Times.

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Netanyahu derailed a potential Gaza hostage deal in July, Israeli newspaper reports (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2024 OP
The Middle East, especially Israel will never see peace until they rid themselves of Netanyahu. n/t SheilaAnn Sep 2024 #1
There's a bit more holding up peace than just Bibi. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #4
Of course there is but he's a huge obstacle. n/t SheilaAnn Sep 2024 #10
Do you think Hamas and Hezbollah are obstacles? Mosby Sep 2024 #13
I do and how to placate them is for the experts of which I am not. It's all so sad for all involved. SheilaAnn Sep 2024 #14
Do you know what that is? soandso Sep 2024 #25
That's true soandso Sep 2024 #24
Purposely sabotaged possibly the last chance to get that group of hostages released, then sent IDF-- hlthe2b Sep 2024 #2
Hmm, he met with republican congress and Trump in July. Bev54 Sep 2024 #3
They had to coordinate their campaign plans. dchill Sep 2024 #15
I cant help but wonder if this crosses over with Netanyahu's Ilsa Sep 2024 #5
They won't. Boomerproud Sep 2024 #11
" I hope the FBI is looking at this." dchill Sep 2024 #16
Given the actions of tRump & Co on the border deal... Quanto Magnus Sep 2024 #17
I believe Netanyahu, with Trump's blessing, is planning a little October surprise. LiberalLovinLug Sep 2024 #21
There will never be a hostage release deal/cease fire as long as warmonger Netanyahu is in charge... brush Sep 2024 #6
there already was one last year. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #7
Huh? What's hard to understand as 'take it to the bank, as soon as a peace deal nears... brush Sep 2024 #8
I was asking about your ceasefire prediction. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #9
Either another attack or demands in terms they know the other side won't agree too... brush Sep 2024 #23
at some point, if the people don't oust him, then it's their problem and not ours Coexist Sep 2024 #12
How do you propose the people oust him? DavidDvorkin Sep 2024 #18
the next election. There are huge protests now calling on him to resign Coexist Sep 2024 #19
Exactly: the next election DavidDvorkin Sep 2024 #20
Why does Israel give Netanyahu so much control over the peace process? iemanja Sep 2024 #22
He needs to go soandso Sep 2024 #26
Why does the U.S.? AloeVera Sep 2024 #28
Good point. iemanja Sep 2024 #30
Netanyahu doesn't want peace. IMO he didn't want the hostages back either. Autumn Sep 2024 #27
Not "found dead" Mossfern Sep 2024 #29
He derails deals on any day that ends in "y" n/t RidinWithHarris Sep 2024 #31

SheilaAnn

(10,779 posts)
1. The Middle East, especially Israel will never see peace until they rid themselves of Netanyahu. n/t
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 12:56 PM
Sep 2024

SheilaAnn

(10,779 posts)
14. I do and how to placate them is for the experts of which I am not. It's all so sad for all involved.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:26 PM
Sep 2024
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
25. Do you know what that is?
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 02:12 PM
Sep 2024

It's the existence of the Jewish state which is constantly expanding.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
24. That's true
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 02:08 PM
Sep 2024

but it's also not that simple. His entire cabinet, except for Galant, voted for his proposal on the Philidelphi corridor. If you read the Israeli papers regularly, you'll see that there are always articles saying a deal is "near" and others contradicting that saying there is no deal. Both sides are intractable and will never agree to what the other side wants.

hlthe2b

(114,650 posts)
2. Purposely sabotaged possibly the last chance to get that group of hostages released, then sent IDF--
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 01:08 PM
Sep 2024

to a hail-mary attempt to rescue them. The latter I'm sure he thought would make him appear heroic in the face of his selfish motives in defeating a deal that might well have freed them. Now he is defiant and unyielding. May he rot in a hell of his own making.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
15. They had to coordinate their campaign plans.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:27 PM
Sep 2024

The Maralago visit was a dead giveaway. Dead giveaway.

Ilsa

(64,563 posts)
5. I cant help but wonder if this crosses over with Netanyahu's
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 01:23 PM
Sep 2024

visit to Trump at MaraLago around July 25? Did Trump direct Netanyahu to do something different and ignore the May 27th agreement? Did Trump interfere with this to keep everything stirred up during campaign season to lay blame on Biden/Harris? I hope the FBI is looking at this.

Quanto Magnus

(1,377 posts)
17. Given the actions of tRump & Co on the border deal...
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:37 PM
Sep 2024

I'm positive TSF told Bibi to not agree to any deals, cause it would make Biden look better.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,756 posts)
21. I believe Netanyahu, with Trump's blessing, is planning a little October surprise.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:03 PM
Sep 2024

Some all out assault, bigger than any other, with untold civilian casualties.

That or some direct attack on Iran.

Either way, Iran will escalate their support and involvment. Causing Biden / Harris to be put into a corner, where they will feel obligated to help defend Israel, and even increase weapon shipments.

Causing a huge break off of support from Arab and Muslim Americans, and one issue leftists. Which Republicans will no doubt exploit to the max.

Or
Biden / Harris do not send in any more weapons, and try some hapless attempt to calm Iran and Hamas down, and keep talking peace, which won't work and Iran will escalate it, and Netanyahu will whine to Fox News about Democrats in the US allowing Hamas and Iran to destroy Israel

Causing a huge break off of support from Israeli Americans / Jewish Americans. Which Republicans will no doubt exploit to the max.

A no win for Democrats. All of course to help Donald win, and then be lavished with the largest package of military aid ever seen. Trump will use the money allocated to helping Ukraine, and send it to Netanyahu.

They are both trying to stay out of prison. They will do whatever they have to.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. There will never be a hostage release deal/cease fire as long as warmonger Netanyahu is in charge...
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 01:39 PM
Sep 2024

as he knows his corrupt ass will then be tried in Israel so he keeps up with the charade that the IDF won't stop until Hamas is defeated, even though higher-ups in the IDF tell him that that's impossible.

His agenda is to save himself, Hamas' is to defeat Israel, which is also impossible. So every time a deal is near, one or the other will order yet another hostile act to keep the war going.

It's not complicated now. We know the drill. We know what each sides' agenda is...to stay in power to save their respective asses and positions of power.

Take it to the bank, if a peace deal nears, wait for the next attack.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. Huh? What's hard to understand as 'take it to the bank, as soon as a peace deal nears...
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sep 2024

one side or the other will initiate another attack.

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE ANOTHER.

maxsolomon

(39,120 posts)
9. I was asking about your ceasefire prediction.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 02:27 PM
Sep 2024
There will never be a hostage release deal/cease fire as long as warmonger Netanyahu is in charge


 

brush

(61,033 posts)
23. Either another attack or demands in terms they know the other side won't agree too...
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sep 2024

it happens every time.

Netanyahu and/or Hamas comes up with something so it doesn't happen.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
12. at some point, if the people don't oust him, then it's their problem and not ours
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:17 PM
Sep 2024

He's a menace and how long can we support his asshatery?

DavidDvorkin

(20,676 posts)
20. Exactly: the next election
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:56 PM
Sep 2024

Until then, he can and will ignore the protests. The people can't oust him until then without overthrowing their democratic parliamentary system.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
26. He needs to go
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 02:23 PM
Sep 2024

and a lot of Israelis want that. However, he's far from the only who holds his positions. Even Galant, who favored a brief withdrawal from the Philidelphi corridor, is in favor of the attacks going on in the West Bank.

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