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The Ga shooter has been named & will be tried as an adult (Original Post) irisblue Sep 2024 OP
Of course he is named after a gun TheProle Sep 2024 #1
Wonder if the adult who owned the gun will be charged as well irisblue Sep 2024 #2
Hope Rebl2 Sep 2024 #5
I read somewhere that Georgia doesn't hold parents responsible for what their kid does with a gun Beaverhausen Sep 2024 #12
That's unfortunate Rebl2 Sep 2024 #15
Good point I had not noticed. Bet he used daddy's gun. Silent Type Sep 2024 #3
Just what Rebl2 Sep 2024 #4
I was thinking horse soandso Sep 2024 #7
Possible, not likely. Igel Sep 2024 #34
sorry, a 14 yr old is NOT AN ADULT Skittles Sep 2024 #6
Absolutely insane. a kennedy Sep 2024 #9
Yeah, well soandso Sep 2024 #10
There is no good and responsibling your way to being an adult TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #20
That's up to the legal system to classify soandso Sep 2024 #35
He was a bullied child. And now he's a scapegoat for everything sick in our culture that adults won't address Iris Sep 2024 #29
A scapegoat? soandso Sep 2024 #36
True, but so were some of his victims. Gore1FL Sep 2024 #11
Agreed Prairie Gates Sep 2024 #14
100% agree. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2024 #18
Perhaps HS ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #25
I recall people, not so long ago, sarisataka Sep 2024 #19
gun based name? "Colt" BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2024 #8
His name was based on gun violence? Botany Sep 2024 #13
Yep, that will fix it angrychair Sep 2024 #16
Or he's been shooting people in a video game for years and years birdographer Sep 2024 #32
Simulators like GTA are also a blight. live love laugh Sep 2024 #39
Live by the sword... Squaredeal Sep 2024 #17
We all either live by the sword or someone does so on our behalf. TheKentuckian Sep 2024 #22
Isn't there normally a process or hearing sarisataka Sep 2024 #21
Want to bet there is a local judge in the DAs' back pocket? irisblue Sep 2024 #24
I'm sure some backwoods southern lawyer sarisataka Sep 2024 #26
Each state differs in process. It is likely a DA decision. 33taw Sep 2024 #28
I expect every narrative will interpret this one data point as an impilcit validation for "their side" Torchlight Sep 2024 #23
Could be. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #37
How does trying him as an adult make any difference bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #27
Do you think 7 years is enough time? If he were tried as a juvenile, he'd be released at age 21. catbyte Sep 2024 #30
Only 14 years old. So, so young to do such a horrible thing. riversedge Sep 2024 #31
Will the parent(s) who gave him access to the gun be tried as children? tinrobot Sep 2024 #33
Mixed feelings about him being tried as an adult BannonsLiver Sep 2024 #38

Beaverhausen

(24,699 posts)
12. I read somewhere that Georgia doesn't hold parents responsible for what their kid does with a gun
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:07 PM
Sep 2024

Igel

(37,535 posts)
34. Possible, not likely.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

The gun was named after a person (surname, but a person).

I've run into other Colts (and the occasional Colter, also likely a surname promoted to first-name status).

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
10. Yeah, well
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:06 PM
Sep 2024

once someone goes on a murderous rampage, they should be dealt with accordingly. Ain't no fixing someone like that (probably a sociopath). Most violent criminals are on the young side. I think the stats on violent crime (murder, armed robbery, rape, etc) are lions share of perps are between 15-mid twenties.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
20. There is no good and responsibling your way to being an adult
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sep 2024

so why is the reverse so easy to swallow.

You are an adult or not.

You don't magically mature because you do something awful.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
35. That's up to the legal system to classify
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:42 PM
Sep 2024

adults and juveniles. Perhaps there should be a category for violent. I'm certainly not making the case that he's adult. I'm making the case that he's deranged and dangerous and that won't change.

Iris

(16,872 posts)
29. He was a bullied child. And now he's a scapegoat for everything sick in our culture that adults won't address
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:07 PM
Sep 2024
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
36. A scapegoat?
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:46 PM
Sep 2024

He's been arrested and charged for a mass shooting not for all of the ills of society. And, I agree there are serious problems with society but he's being held accountable for his own actions.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
11. True, but so were some of his victims.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:07 PM
Sep 2024

While I believe his age should be taken into account, less than 1 year per dead body doesn't seem sufficient to me. A clean slate at 18 doesn't seem fair to the victims.

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
14. Agreed
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:14 PM
Sep 2024

In any case, even if this was a decision that should be made, it should be made after careful consideration, not 10 minutes later. We're really in the goofiest timeline.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
18. 100% agree.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:42 PM
Sep 2024

14 is middle school. Frontal cortex is pretty much still mush at that point. Trying this child as an adult is going to do NOTHING to stop future shootings. Dumb.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
25. Perhaps HS
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:54 PM
Sep 2024

In most states, only 58% of kids graduate from 8th grade at 14. The other 42% are 13, but might turn 14 over the summer, then enter HS.
I was one of the latter. I didn't turn 14 until almost a month after freshman year started.
So, I'm going to guess this kid was a frosh.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
19. I recall people, not so long ago,
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sep 2024

pointing out that our brains are not fully developed until 25. Saying we should treat youthful offenders, not lock them away for life.

At least no one has suggested the death penalty, that I have seen. Yet.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
13. His name was based on gun violence?
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:09 PM
Sep 2024

Who named him that? And who took him out to shoot and at what age?

A gun sickness is in the structure of America.

angrychair

(12,285 posts)
16. Yep, that will fix it
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:34 PM
Sep 2024

The kid is obviously mentally disturbed and has incredibly shitty parents and he is 14 years old. He doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
This will fix nothing.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
32. Or he's been shooting people in a video game for years and years
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:12 PM
Sep 2024

Gets high scores. Is really good. It's a short distance for a kid with a 14-year old brain to go from Mortal Kombat to his HS where he may have been bullied or demeaned and he's mad.

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
39. Simulators like GTA are also a blight.
Thu Sep 5, 2024, 05:23 AM
Sep 2024

Car jackings which are often fatal are mostly done by teens who are more than likely inspired by video game gun violence.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
26. I'm sure some backwoods southern lawyer
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:56 PM
Sep 2024

knows a judge with bloodstains on his hands.

But that would seem to work against the conclusion many are jumping to that the shooter is white. You would think if that was true the PTB would want to keep him in the juvenile system to minimize punishment.

33taw

(3,343 posts)
28. Each state differs in process. It is likely a DA decision.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:07 PM
Sep 2024

If convicted he would normally be housed as a juvenile until he is eighteen and then moved to an adult facility.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
23. I expect every narrative will interpret this one data point as an impilcit validation for "their side"
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 05:51 PM
Sep 2024

I'm guessing the next 36 hours will see fingers pointing with such fierce sanctimony and self-righteous purity as to make the Congress of Vienna look like a Friday night beer hustle.

catbyte

(39,153 posts)
30. Do you think 7 years is enough time? If he were tried as a juvenile, he'd be released at age 21.
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 06:11 PM
Sep 2024

I don't know; I'd be afraid of him going off again.

BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
38. Mixed feelings about him being tried as an adult
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 09:11 PM
Sep 2024

But I’m not going to lose any sleep over it either.

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