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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:33 PM Dec 2012

Fox News Op-Ed Says Women’s Nature Is To Be Dominated By Men

By Zack Beauchamp on Dec 7, 2012 at 10:21 am

Fox News has published another sexist op-ed by Suzanne Venker, the author who became infamous for attacking a fictional “War on Men.” In the follow up piece, Venker argues that women are naturally men’s inferiors.

The author believes the crudest of crude gender stereotypes are built into male and female brains, arguing that women “like to gather and nest and take care of people” while men “are hunters: they like to build things and kill things.” As a consequence, she maintains a man’s place is in the office; “his” woman should simply “surrender” to his rule:

Women shouldn’t let their success in the workplace become the biggest thing in their lives. If the ultimate goal is lasting love – and let’s face it: for most people it is – women are going to have to become comfortable with sacrifice and capitulation. …

Surrendering to your femininity means many things. It means letting your man be the man despite the fact that you’ve proven you’re his equal. It means recognizing the fact that you may very well want to stay home with your babies – and that that’s normal. Surrendering to your femininity means if you do work outside the home, you don’t use your work to play tit for tat in your marriage. It means tapping into that part of yourself that’s genuinely vulnerable and really does need a man – even though the culture says you don’t.

In other words, put down your sword. It’s okay if your guy’s in charge. It’s okay if you don’t drive the car. In fact, it’s rather liberating.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/12/07/1299611/fox-news-op-ed-says-womens-nature-is-to-be-dominated-by-men/?mobile=nc

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Fox News Op-Ed Says Women’s Nature Is To Be Dominated By Men (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Dec 2012 OP
hopefully she'll soon be putting down her pen. barbtries Dec 2012 #1
And then she screamed, "I love you, women!" randome Dec 2012 #2
In all fairness a man Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #3
A man was supposed to write it for her LadyHawkAZ Dec 2012 #33
GOP: If Women Want An Opinion Men Will Give Them One kaspar411 Dec 2012 #4
In my experience, a peaceful life comes only from agreeing to whatever my wife wants! Democratopia Dec 2012 #5
Oh ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Behind every great man is a woman pulling the strings Democratopia Dec 2012 #16
My Dad gave me the following sage advice: 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #19
um...more like taking all the responsibility leftstreet Dec 2012 #21
Far from it in my case. I am very much the house husband, and I suspect I am also talking about the Democratopia Dec 2012 #24
what is this broad doing writing for a newspaper? Enrique Dec 2012 #6
Women can be a help Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #11
Who would give time to such drivel? Oh. Of course. Scuba Dec 2012 #7
Yes Drivel written by a woman Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #17
You cut her comment to soon ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #8
This is why I oppose time travel leftstreet Dec 2012 #10
Time Travel was Man's invention Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #13
You mean I've been wrong all these years cyglet Dec 2012 #12
Interesting Amaril Dec 2012 #14
She should have been in the car with my Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #15
If you had stayed in the kitchen Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #18
What pearls? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #20
The ones you are clutching. Ichingcarpenter Dec 2012 #23
I see, more nonsense... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #36
I am so confuuuuuused Tsiyu Dec 2012 #22
Clearly she does not know me. nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #25
Sexist claptrap from a true neanderthal. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #26
BOLLOCKS! MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #27
OK I can't resist Tsiyu Dec 2012 #28
LOL MynameisBlarney Dec 2012 #32
Is she a Gorean? eShirl Dec 2012 #29
And that idiot can fight right off. n/t MadrasT Dec 2012 #30
Completely superficial bullshit! liberalmuse Dec 2012 #31
Finally - now I know what is wrong with me!!! I have run my own life since my divorce in 1966. I jwirr Dec 2012 #34
Her aunt is Phyllis Schlafly. Archae Dec 2012 #35
It doesn't even make sense get the red out Dec 2012 #37
Hey, Faux, hifiguy Dec 2012 #38

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
3. In all fairness a man
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:41 PM
Dec 2012

needed to tell her how to form this opinion and help her write this.

I think the bible told me so.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
33. A man was supposed to write it for her
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Dec 2012

1 Timothy 2:12

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. My Dad gave me the following sage advice:
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:09 PM
Dec 2012
Son, the sooner you learn the magic two words, the easier your life will become. The two words: "Yes Dear."

leftstreet

(40,730 posts)
21. um...more like taking all the responsibility
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
Dec 2012

Whenever I hear a man say he 'goes along with' his wife to 'keep her happy' I suspect he actually does it to avoid taking any responsibility, thereby extending his happy adolescence right up to his final nursing home days, where someone will, again, put food in front of him, do his laundry, and schedule his dr's appts

 

Democratopia

(552 posts)
24. Far from it in my case. I am very much the house husband, and I suspect I am also talking about the
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:32 PM
Dec 2012

previous poster - when I say "yes dear" I am normally compromising my own wishes.

I once asked my wife to give just one example of when she didn't have her own way, and she could not. Saying yes to cleaning her parents' home most weekends, changing their bed, fixing things for them, taking their trash out, cleaning their floors - mostly my work. Saying yes to the car we bought, how she wants to spend our money. You name it, I let my wife have her own way and it is nothing to do with being immature. Yes I am immature in many ways, but I am also a fair-minded and responsible, caring person. I have cared for my wife after she had surgeries this year. I would rather not have to do these things, but whatever I might be bad at, I am not going to be a bad husband.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. Women can be a help
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:52 PM
Dec 2012

to other labors in man's adventure.

Even though they are too emotional sometimes as the writer from fox has proven.

I bet they might be emotional about this post.

See?

Emotional.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. You cut her comment to soon ...
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
Dec 2012

What she actually said was,

arguing that women “like to gather and nest and take care of people” while men “are hunters: they like to build things and kill things including women who don't like to gather and nest and take care of people".

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
13. Time Travel was Man's invention
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:56 PM
Dec 2012

HG Wells was a male.


Women will follow us in the concept in time travel.. but only if they bring enough shoes.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
14. Interesting
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:57 PM
Dec 2012

I'm a woman -- been one for nearly 50 years now -- and I can honestly say that I have never felt the urge to be subservient to a man (or to have one be subservient to me for that matter). I've also never felt the urge to "gather" anything, and while I did experience the urge to "nest" (wild, tireless cleaning tear) when pregnant with my children & near delivery, I also like to "hunt" (not animals, mind you, but I have an investigator's mind - a trait I would ascribe to being more akin to "hunting" than "gathering&quot and build things (I've built several furniture pieces with my own two hands).

You know, I really detest women who think they have a right or even the authority to speak for other women. I'd really like to know who she thinks died and made her the expert on what ALL women want or need in their lives.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
15. She should have been in the car with my
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
Dec 2012

ex when he was too drunk to drive, wouldn't give me the keys and drove down US 22 driving west in the east bound lane. She'd find that liberating all right...it would liberate her sphincter muscle.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
18. If you had stayed in the kitchen
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:05 PM
Dec 2012

your pearls would have been safe and the kitchen would have been cleaned.

I guess you can't make your own decisions which proves her point.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
36. I see, more nonsense...
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:45 PM
Dec 2012

I think reading anything you post must be monumental waste of time....bye.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
22. I am so confuuuuuused
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:15 PM
Dec 2012


Last week they were saying men are merely beasts, led by their hormones and urges and they can't help themselves.

Why would a woman submit to a beast with no self control?

Wouldn't we call her an enabler, a co-dependent, an unstable female?

I am so confuuuuuuused. I think I won't worry my pretty little head about it

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
28. OK I can't resist
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:50 PM
Dec 2012


I don't know what's gotten into me since I joined DU!

Mah mayun is gonna keeyull me!

Shhhhhhh!!!!!




liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
31. Completely superficial bullshit!
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:03 PM
Dec 2012

I think it is disingenuous to men to suggest that in order for them to feel important, and retain their masculinity, they need women to downplay their own strengths. On the other hand, women are made to feel guilty (you know, called, "feminazi's&quot for desiring independence and not behaving like someone else's entirely fabricated definition of "feminine".

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
34. Finally - now I know what is wrong with me!!! I have run my own life since my divorce in 1966. I
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:28 PM
Dec 2012

knew I was missing something.

get the red out

(14,031 posts)
37. It doesn't even make sense
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 04:55 PM
Dec 2012

Simply idiotic drivel. BOTH people in a relationship need to compromise on things for it to work out. I don't even understand the idea of "sacrificing feminity", what she really means is sacrificing one's individuality and letting someone basically own you. That has not one thing to do with being feminine, whatever that is. People are individuals for God's sake. And I've yet to meet a feminist minded person who was against someone being a full time parent; either mother or father. The TRUTH of modern society is that people don't usually have that option economically.

If she wants to go back to hunter-gatherer times I guarantee she'll break a nail because women worked HARD, everyone worked hard in order for human groups to survive. It is believed that women most likely discovered farming as a way to ensure food supplies. That was a pretty important thing for the human race IMO.

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