mug shot of Georgia shooter

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

[Lovie777]

1. AI?............................

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

2. no... real photo

[MizLibby]

3. the eyes are haunting!

[Lonestarblue]

6. Yes, and he looks so sad.

WaPo published an article this morning quoting his aunt as saying he had a troubled home life and never got the help he needed. His parents divorced and evidently his father had custody.

[SheltieLover]

11. Still no excuse to kill others. Lots of people endure much more.

[LizBeth]

56. No one is making an excuse. Merely information to digest.

[Think. Again.]

18. Thank you for saying that...

...it was the first thing that struck me.

And before I get blasted;

I will not give up my empathy for children whose own pain and confusion leads them to do horrible, horrible things, and no I don't forgive anyone who doesn't show true remorse for doing those horrible things either.

[Lonestarblue]

20. Yes, we can have empathy for a child without excusing the action.

[sarisataka]

22. Too many believe empathy is incompatible

with supporting consequences for actions.

[yardwork]

51. Well said.

[Stinky The Clown]

62. Rec. Thank you for saying that

[hlthe2b]

24. Yes and a former teacher has intimated that there is a very sad story behind what caused him to erupt & kill.

The aunt might have reason to say things that can't be validated (or not) but a teacher? I suspect a lot is going to come out.

I'm no bleeding heart on these horrific incidents, but I really regret that the prosecutor came out within hours to say they would try him as an adult. My kneejerk reaction on these things might agree, but I think they would be well served to find the facts before making that conclusion--or any other.

[SilverDawg]

33. His father should

be charged with these murders. Per what I am hearing and reading, the father did NOTHING to help a child who needed help dealing with depression and did NOT secure the guns in the house after a visit from the FBI.

[Different Drummer]

58. His father is being charged.

Source: ajc.com

WINDER, Ga. (AP) — The father of the teenager accused of opening fire at a Georgia high school, killing four people and wounding nine, was arrested on various charges including second-degree murder, authorities said Thursday.

Colin Gray, 54, the father of Colt Gray, was charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder and eight counts of cruelty to children, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said in a social media post.

“These charges stem from Mr. Gray knowingly allowing his son, Colt, to possess a weapon,” GBI Director Chris Hosey said at an evening news conference. “His charges are directly connected with the actions of his son and allowing him to possess a weapon.”

In Georgia, second-degree murder means that a person has caused the death of another person while committing second-degree cruelty to children, regardless of intent. It is punishable by 10 to 30 years in prison, while malice murder and felony murder carry a minimum sentence of life. Involuntary manslaughter means that someone unintentionally causes the death of another person.

More at: https://appnews.ajc.com/TNXKDTXDRNHNNIQYTIFEZJM57I/content.html

[jimfields33]

53. He's going to jail for life. Of course he's sad. Hopefully, he is also sad for destroying four families.

[soandso]

7. Empty looking

[mucholderthandirt]

65. Yes. Empty. Not sad. Not regretful. However it happened, that kid was dead inside.

There should be a mechanism where teachers and others can report these kids so they can be removed from bad situations and get treatment. For life, if necessary. Parents should be charged for giving this kind of life to children. Yes, it's intrusive. Yes, it goes against our principles, but how many more dead are we going to take before we change things?

Also, guns need to go. There is no reason any citizen should have assault weapons, nor any ammo meant to go through Kevlar, and similar things. There is no reason for our citizens to be armed like an army. None. Nothing they can get is going to beat the military if they were ever to go against us. All they can go is go on killing sprees, defy the government to stop them. It's wrong.

[SheltieLover]

10. Like nobody's home in there

[shelshaw]

4. Trump-colored hair

[Arne]

5. With dark roots.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

8. here he is 2 years ago

[underpants]

26. I saw a pic yesterday of a guy who looked like a jock

Must be a different kid.

12-14 does encompass a lot of physical changes.

[regnaD kciN]

28. Watch the Reich-wingers claim...

…that, because of his longer hair, “he must have decided he was transgender, and that’s why he did it.”

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

59. they were saying that in comments..

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

9. Trump WISHES he had that hair

[moonscape]

12. So do I!

Hair is wasted on the young.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

13. lol

[SoFlaBro]

46. Kid has some fucked up MAGA shitbag philosophies rattling around in that head from the parents talking shit.

[jimfields33]

55. I don't think his mother talked at all. She's been in and out of jail for meth and other drugs.

[marble falls]

14. Why are they not obscuring a minor's face?

[maxsolomon]

15. Because he's been charged as an adult.

nt

[marble falls]

21. That's a bullshit reason: these are the facts - presumptive innocence (even for those caught "red handed") ...

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... the calendar does not lie, he's no adult except in the opinion of those who see life in prison as a great thing for non adults.

A kid is a kid is a kid. Legalese word shuffle or not.

[maxsolomon]

30. You asked.

I didn't make that decision.

[marble falls]

36. I wasn't responding to you personally. I appolgize for the offence.

[getagrip_already]

54. There should be some sentance longer than minor but shorter than adult...

The prosecutors are faced with the option of a minor being released at 18 or an adult locked up for 50 years.

There should be a middle ground.

The last thing we want is an unrepentent like kyle rittenhouse released in less than 4 years, without any treatment.

Yet, that is what would happen as a minor.

[malaise]

16. They are trying him as an adult

Because the adults failed to ban these weapons of war and his family don’t give a flying fuck or the guns would have been out of his reach.

[marble falls]

23. Adult mistakes are being worked out on children. You and I know how screwed up that attitude is! It's killing children.

[malaise]

27. That simple my friend

He has my sympathy

[marble falls]

31. There's more going on here than "a kid took a fire arm to school and killed four, wounded others, put him in prison ...

... for life."

The system and adults who made it possible for a fourteen year old to get his hand on a serious handgun should be on trial here, too. The lack of mental health facilities and treatment programs while building more prisons and jails needs to be put on trial.

I've read that for 80% of the US' mentally ill, the first psychological treatment they get is in a police/jail/prison setting. And police COMMONLY shoot and kill mentally ill who call police for help on the streets and in their own homes.

Malaise, how do you and I know 14 is too young to sign contracts, rent apartments, drive, smoke, drink, get married, initiate lawsuits, etc means they are too young for life sentences (a chicken shit form of the death penalty) - when other adults think a life sentence for a child is a swell idea and make hair jokes about it?

[malaise]

39. You nailed it

Evil my brother - evil adults who don’t give a shit about kids or adults.
No 14 old, let alone one with mental health issues, should be tried as an adult.

[marble falls]

43. On the money and in a lot fewer words than I use. Evil.

[Boomerproud]

66. I don't know but is it because he's being tried as an adult?

nt

[sarisataka]

17. If his hair was it's natural dark color

he would bear a passing resemblance to my youngest when he was that age.
It is sad his life and his choices have led him to where he is now.

[msongs]

19. used ta be minors info was kept confidential. what happened? nt

[Torchlight]

25. Apples used to cost a dime

[marble falls]

38. We've reduced imprisoning children to depression apple sales. We used to have facilities for mental health ...

... treatment, too. Even for the criminally insane.

[Sanity Claws]

29. Very sad

He has shaped eyebrows and dyed hair. Was he being bullied because he was perceived as gay or trans? There is a bigger picture here that we don't know.

[LeftInTX]

34. Oh jeez, that would be all we need...That's what the GOP will blame it on...

Who knows. His hair is obviously bleached. I can spot brassiness anywhere!

In the 80's he would have been a hair metal fan. (Bon jovi, whitesnake, def leppard, motley crue etc)

I really can't tell anything else about him.

[marble falls]

40. One of my first thoughts. Being a kid is a dangerous business and I feel shame about it.

[maxsolomon]

45. Was he bullied?

On CNN last night, the gal who sat next to him in a class said he was a blank. He never talked. "He was just... there."

[Silent Type]

32. CNN just reported dad bought gun as a gift for son, AFTER they were visited by FBI. Lock him up.

Apparently, it was a troubled home and none of us know what he the kid has been through. His Aunt said he asked for some mental health help. Dad bought him a rifle.

[senseandsensibility]

35. Wow

Talk about dysfunctional.

[marble falls]

41. Absolutely: lock up anyone who puts the gun into the hands of children actively or passively by not securing them.

[iluvtennis]

42. Just like was done for the 2022 Michigan school shooter ( 15 year old Ethan Crumley). Parents bought him a gun

knowing he had mental issues.

https://apnews.com/article/oxford-high-school-mother-charged-01f336607a496c5f9ff0cb3a7434d073

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-michigan-school-shooter-was-found-guilty-rare-case-now-father-g-rcna140699

Guess these parents of the Georgia shooter didn't learn anything from the Crumley parents both being convicted of manslaughter.

[sanatanadharma]

50. Dad is lucky he wasn't the first to die that day ...

... as this hormonal young teen left the house on a pre-planned tear that resulted in too many unplanned tears.

[JanMichael]

61. Ding ding ding...yep that's a fact.

[iluvtennis]

37. Thanks for the post. n/t

[LuckyCharms]

44. This makes me sad. I'm not sure that releasing his mugshot

was a good idea.

I don't know who this benefits (not speaking about your OP, I'm speaking about the general release of the mugshot).

[LeftInTX]

48. He's being tried as an adult. Hence, they release his mugshot.

[LuckyCharms]

49. Yeah, I know that.

Doesn't change my response.

[ananda]

47. He has a creepy dead-eyes look.

And I'm not surprised.

[bullimiami]

52. That's awfully sad.

[claudette]

57. I don't

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feel sorry for him. He murdered 4 people in cold blood. No excuses in my mind

[bdamomma]

60. I don't feel sorry for him

either, he needed help not his father giving him a gun. That's just sick.

Now his father is charged too. Killing innocent people is not the solution.

[claudette]

63. 👍

[bullimiami]

64. Not sorry for him. Just a sad situation all-round. Sick sad society