I'm broken

[angrychair]

I just can't anymore. Taking a break.
Justice system is never going to hold TSF is accountable. Ever. I mean even the talking heads on MSNBC are saying they should dismiss all the charges.
The news media is making a full court press to protect TSF no matter what he says or does.
I truly believe that VP Harris could be winning by 10 points and the news media would still say TSF is winning the election.
CNN and Politico calling his recent economics forum appearance were great policies is breaking my brain.
Nate Silver saying TSF will win the election is breaking my brain.

I can't make sense of it at all.

I'll likely lurk a little but I may be done with all of it. I may just need to stop watching news, social media or participating in politics at all. I have a lot of thinking to do.
That this country would elect him president again is just more that I can process.

[Stargleamer]

1. There's a small chance that Judge Merchan

will impose a significant punishment on the POS. There’s even a chance that the upcoming debate will improve Harris’s numbers enough to insure victory. So all mightn’t be lost

On edit: I just saw that Merchan fucked things up.

[SheltieLover]

2. Pls consider this

Yale is offering their Science of Well Being course absolutely free. 4.7 million 5 star reviews.

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[BamaRefugee]

29. Thank you for this!

[SheltieLover]

34. YW!

[servermsh]

3. Taking a break is understandable

Some comments, though.

What Silver is doing at the moment is not credible. Ignore him.

Trump was only going to fundraise and martyr himself over any sentence, so I don't mind for this paticular court case. IMHO, it was important he was found guilty and everyone knows it.

The press has sucked for decades and always wants everyone to believe races are close.

If you really feel the need to look at polls, just look at the summaries from Markos on Daily Kos that he does periodically.

[brush]

4. Don't give up yet. Remember MLK Jr's phrase: "Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends...

towards justice."

No way is this criminal is going to get away with all the crime he's done over the decades. In fact, he's been going through hell these last few years with all indictments, court appearances and immense stress of the unending process, with much more still to come.

He's not getting away with all this crap. There are consequences for crimes. It doesn't get swept under the rug forever.

[NoRethugFriends]

9. that MLK statement has always struck me as very false

[CrispyQ]

11. Agree. We have to fight for every degree in our favor. It doesn't just naturally bend our way.

Same with "When they go low, we go high." Problem is, they have no bottom. I like Scrivener's saying better. "When they go low, we kick 'em in the face."

[brush]

15. John Gotti died after doing long time in prison. Justice caught up with his ass.

Ya don't do crime for forever without it catching up with you. Fat ass trump is in the long process of fuck around and finding out.

[former9thward]

32. You are picking out one guy?

In the city I live in, Chicago, a majority of murders are never solved. Never. They do get away with it.

[brush]

35. Again, it's not complicated. You don't know what else happened in the lives of those killers.

If some think their lives have gone smoothy with nothing bad happening to them, I have to say, naivete abounds.

It's the old phrase, "what come around, goes around."

It's not complicated.

[former9thward]

43. I don't believe in karma.

It is a concept promoted to make people feel better about bad things in their lives.

[brush]

46. If you go around and kill people. Just will come to you in some way.

It may not even be for the killing, some other unfortunate happening, maybe entirely unrelated, will befall you.

[Autumn]

74. And if you do nothing but good all your life unfortunate things can still happen.

Happy children go to school to lean and are slaughtered and no one stops it. Where is their justice?

[brush]

84. You have to know that if you do good in life your chances are way better of succeeding than if you do evil. Come on.

[Autumn]

86. Succeeding has nothing to do with Karma or justice.

[brush]

87. What does that even mean?

[Autumn]

89. Do you really need this?

https://www.dictionary.com/

To understand what this one sentence means?

Succeeding has nothing to do with Karma or justice.

Karma is the debt we incur from wrong action in our current life that will determine the state of our NEXT lifetime (incarnation). A light or nonexistent Karmic debt is believed to ensure a better life in the next go-round.

[brush]

90. I'm not interested in installing that on my computer.

[Autumn]

92. Don't have to install the dictionary, just scroll down to the bottom.

[brush]

93. Not interested as it's so far from the meaning of the MLK Jr. quote.

[Mariana]

79. Their victims have already had an "unfortunate happening" befall them

when they were murdered. Was that karma too? Do you believe they did something to deserve that?

[Blue_Roses]

85. I can understand doubting Karma

because we don't always see it do justice, but I have no doubt it's there. I've seen it happen too many times to not believe it. You cannot chase Karma, because it works on its own timetable and it's usually when it will make the strongest impact.

[Autumn]

94. Twelve US presidents owned slaves. They had complete control over other human beings.

They could sell them, they could tear apart families, they could sire children upon the women. They could do whatever they wanted to them.

Those presidents had damn good lives. One could say they succeeded very well in life. We know history. Do you think the slaves got their justice? I don't.

[Keepthesoulalive]

12. He didn't mean it's going bend because of wishes

He meant you are going to have to work and possibly suffer for it like the Ukrainians and the people who faced Bull Conner. He put his body on the line with the marchers and he paid the ultimate price and it did bend but we have to keep fighting.

[brush]

14. Tell that to all the J6 insurrectionist who thought they had gotten away with...

what they did years ago when the FBI takes them into custody cause internet sleuths tracked them down and turned over their indentity to the FBI.

[Keepthesoulalive]

17. Don't understand

Please clarify

[brush]

21. It's not complicated. Justice catches up with criminals..."bends toward justice."

That MLK Jr. phrase is self-explanatory to me. Some seem to misinterpret it for some reason.

Crime catches up with you.

[Keepthesoulalive]

28. They are not aware of the background or backstory

They make the assumption that he was saying some mythical being was going to come down and fix the injustices. Black people know you have to fight and endure hardship if you want justice. Judges are dealing with death threats and the hackers that are going after these thugs are showing bravery. I am not disagreeing with you. I disagree with people saying MLK was wrong because of a perceived setback .

[brush]

33. Yes. As I said, it's not that complicated. Justice will be done, even if it's a long time coming.

History proves that over and over and over.

[Voltaire2]

71. 'justice' is not a thing. it is a concept within human culture.

Justice cannot catch up to you, some humans working for some law enforcement agency caught up to you.

[whathehell]

77. Of course it's a concept and not a 'thing'

but the 'humans working for some law enforcement agency' that catch up to you represent justice.

[brush]

13. Why do you call it false? If you look at glaring injutices in histroy, it pans outl

No one gets away forever from suffering consequences for crime. Justice usually catches up with them. Look at all the J6 insurrectionist who are continually being arrested because internet sleuths caught up with them and tuned them in to the FBI. Look at trump, that fat fuck, if he had just kept living his life and doing his crap of leasing his name to properties, he'd been still living in trump tower, now faced with all the consequences of his crime, but no, the fact fuck wanted to go into politics.

Now he's reaping what he sowed, and no one can say these last few years have been pleasant for his convicted ass.

[NoRethugFriends]

16. so because Hitler finally had to kill himself,

11 million people being offed was not relevant to the arc of History bending right

[brush]

18. What a gross misunderstanding of the phrase. Hitler didn't get away with it.

What' hard to understand about that? We're not speaking and writing in German.

Justice catches up with even the worst of humanity.

[NoRethugFriends]

23. and only 11 million people needed to die for it to happen

I understand what MLK was trying to say, and he was of course mostly a good guy, but I think the thought is a crock.

[brush]

27. Let me simplify it for you since you obviously haven't grasped the simple meaning ot it.

Justice catches up with criminals. It's not complicted at all.

[Cirsium]

36. Clearly it doesn't

Clearly justice does not necessarily catch up with criminals. What do you mean by "justice" and how do you imagine it "catching up" with criminals?

[brush]

40. You've never heard the phrase, "what comes around, goes around?"

The high, poetic language was meant to inspire but that's all it really means.

[Voltaire2]

73. Is also nonsense.

[NoRethugFriends]

63. condescending much?

[brush]

64. It is what it is.

[NoRethugFriends]

65. what it is is condescending

[brush]

67. Okay.

[Voltaire2]

72. Do you actually think that nobody gets away with crimes?

[brush]

88. And where did I say that? Consider trump, he's been committing crime for decades...

but tell, me now, how many felonies has he been convicted of finally, with more to come with the J6 case?

[NoRethugFriends]

25. and the right wing is rising in Germany again

[brush]

26. And Hitler is still dead.

[Cirsium]

37. Every criminal dies

Every criminal eventually dies. Is that what you mean by justice catching up with them?

[brush]

38. He killed himself. God, what's hard to understand about it?

[Cirsium]

39. OK

So killing himself is an example of justice catching up to a criminal?

How about the Nazis, Nazi collaborators, and war criminals who didn't commit suicide and who escaped punishment? Quite a few of them were fast tracked into the US based on their anti-communist bona fides. They seem to have prospered.

[brush]

41. Hitler killed himself because he knew what was coming for him.

He knew he had committed horrendous crimes and woulld be held accountable.

He was the thug who ordered it.

[Cirsium]

56. Sure

That may be true. Hard to say what his motivation was or killing himself. It was not necessarily to avoid being held accountable.

How about the Nazis, Nazi collaborators, and war criminals who didn't commit suicide and who escaped punishment? Quite a few of them were fast tracked into the US based on their anti-communist bona fides. They seem to have prospered.

Certainly sometimes bad people get what's coming to them, so to speak. But that doesn't make for a general rule.

[Marigold]

78. This is true about the Nazis

I just watched a documentary today that said 99 percent of the Nazi perpetrators were never brought to justice. After the initial trials, the world got tired of prosecuting and too much time had passed. And with the rise of McCarthyism in the US, we were more concerned with communists. Some of the most vile Nazi's lived out full lives in the US and countries in South America with no repercussions.

[brush]

83. See post 85. The high-flown language is poetic and beautiful, but it's not that complicated.

[Mariana]

80. So are his millions of victims.

[brush]

82. And?

The fact remains that MLK Jr's message remains the same:"... the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice." The justice being that Hitler killed himself because he knew the allies were coming for him because of his crimes.

[former9thward]

48. Were Stalin and Mao held accountable?

[brush]

51. You again. What are you pushing, doing evil and getting away with it?

[former9thward]

53. What are you pushing?

[brush]

54. Just go on your contrarian way. I've gotten your typical responses before.

[Voltaire2]

70. well that is just nonsense, despite King having said it.

the universe has no capacity to have a moral arc. Any progress toward justice in human societies is because humans did that.

[Think. Again.]

5. Taking care of ourselves first should ALWAYS be our main priority...

...and please remember that the fact all of this bothers you so much says some really damn good things about you.

[Evolve Dammit]

47. Well said

[NewHendoLib]

6. Turn it all off and just get what you seek here at DU.

I turned it all off 15 years ago - never regretted it.

[Cirsium]

81. That's great

Do you mean to say that we can just turn fascism off and it will all go away? Where's the switch?

[Keepthesoulalive]

7. The news media wants us to give up

Harriet Tubman said to the slaves who were trying to become free by running from the slavers, when you hear the dogs behind you keep running. That’s what we have to do. Don’t let them discourage you . Turn them off because they want to enslave us. Take a health break and come back because we are going to keep running.

[Ocelot II]

8. You do you. I'm excited and energized

by the Harris-Walz campaign, and don’t care to waste energy on whether Trump will ever go to prison. He probably won’t, and I accepted that long ago. What is essential is that he be kept away from the presidency at all costs, and that’s where all my energy is being directed.

[betsuni]

24. Agree.

I never think about whether Trump goes to prison or not.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

58. All it takes is to see Harris and Walz smiling or laughing.

Competence, empathy, intelligence, and knowledge come with their dispositions.

[usonian]

10. I have a giant block list on DU. My other news aggregator is Hacker News.

No TV. No other sites or "social" (what a misnomer)

I stay grounded, practice piano and take photos when Mother Nature taps my shoulder. I have a beautiful Buddhist practice based on equality and hope.

We will overcome the ding dongs.

Peace.

[Prairie Gates]

19. Dude, you need to step away for 30 days

This is unhealthy.

[a kennedy]

22. At least until after the election.......

[HAB911]

20. All the justice money can buy

[Keepthesoulalive]

31. It has always been this way

He just pulled the cover off.

[LoisB]

42. I hear you.

[Evolve Dammit]

44. I hear ya and magatland would revel in it, so I refuse.

[surfered]

45. I understand. It's Worse than the Nixon/Watergate era. But I wouldn't bet against Karma

[birdographer]

49. I want so badly to turn my back on it all.

BUT! What if the day I refuse to watch news, visit a news site online, totally unplug, that is the day that TSF (a) is shot (dead, this time), (b) is pushed out a 6th floor window, (c) falls down a long flight of stairs, or (d) finally strokes out, I will miss out on being happier than I have been for 8 years. I will miss the frisson of giddy joy upon reading the news, I will waste hours being depressed and miserable when the source of that pain is gone (for me, cutting the head off the snake will kill it, even if eventually its cousins take its place). I just have to know every morning if THIS is the day it ends. However, upon ascertaining that no, this is the 2,922nd day that I have been disappointed, I skim the news very lightly and then move on to Wordle.

[ancianita]

50. Cool. Stay focused on the reality of the situation that will calm you down. Not the hype. We've got this.

Nov 5 the national jury will reach a verdict that this SCOTUS cannot overturn.

Our past & president had the numbers, and our future president has the numbers, too. Too big to rig.




It's gonna be okay. You'll see.

[irisblue]

52. Some time away can be helpful on dealing with life.

Take care of yourself for all of us here on DU

[StarryNite]

55. Dictator Don wins again.

Our justice system is badly broken.

[ancianita]

57. Nope. Just a round. Not the whole fight.

You really have no idea how much this justice system gets done, so go do some numbers research.

You can start here, but those numbers are only half.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases?page=0

[StarryNite]

68. I'll believe it if and when justice is meted out to the orange POS.

[ancianita]

69. The national jury will mete that justice to TSF on Nov 5.

At least two courts -- the DC and Manhattan courts -- will handle the rest whether he wins or loses, because justice will then be meted out to him before the inauguration when the Manhattan judge sentences him to prison.

[TBF]

59. If you do nothing else just vote for Harris/Walz -

and leave the rest behind if you need to. What will annoy me is if we can't get the votes we need because the other side beats people down. For men (white men anyway) things may be fairly status quo, but this election will be horrible for women. They were just getting started with overturning Roe. I remember a lot of folks saying "oh they'll never overturn it - they need their wedge issues". WRONG. They'll do whatever the f*** they want when they get in office. So, if nothing else, just vote. Peace.

[IcyPeas]

60. It can be disheartening and infuriating ... but taking a break is healthy

[Botany]

61. Hold on it is just a matter of a little more time before the Sword of Damocles starts to rip him apart ...

Yes, it pisses me off too but Donny’s “Court Date Dance Party” day/date book is getting really
full from now and on out. Just the civil penalties are going to be crushing. E. Jean C is into him for
83 million, Tish James and NY State have a 500 million dollar nut on Trump, the Estate of Issac Hayes
is after Donny, D.A. Braggs will no doubt be after financial penalties, and those Capitol Hill Cops are
going to sue the shit out of him too. And the criminal charges are getting ready to rock and roll too.

[Scrivener7]

62. You can't go. I hear you, but don't go. Take a break and come back.

So many here feel the same way you do, and there is comfort in knowing we are together in it.

[MistakenLamb]

66. Why the hell are you still paying attention to those dinosaurs in legacy media?

[mucholderthandirt]

75. You do what you need to do for your health. Seriously. Big cyber hug incoming, brace yourself!

[Clouds Passing]

76. I'm sorry you feel broken angrychair...

the constant stream of denial, abuse, gaslighting, criminal injustice, hate, bigotry, siding with evil…..

is becoming too much to bear. There are many people here who are sane, intelligent, well-grounded and caring.

Focus on caring for you.

I may need to take a break again as well.

[Brainfodder]

91. After he loses in landslide in 8 weeks, if he doesn't flee disappear or croak before then the slam dunks with jail time!

Ignoring it all from now to voting day, yeah I don't see any downside once the comedy debate is done in 2 days to seal this!

Cannabis is insisting on chilling, so that is one reason I use it.