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Poll reveals shift in race between Trump and Kamala in two big states
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/poll-reveals-shift-in-race-between-trump-and-kamala-in-two-big-states/ar-AA1qb1Zc?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=9875b3421ac54892b769cbc3b6b1e325&ei=10#
Story by James Gordon For Dailymail.com 16h
The race for the White House is tightening up in two states previously thought to be solidly Republican.
Latest polls suggest the southern states of Texas and Florida, which Trump carried comfortably by 5 points and 4 points respectively in 2020, are now far closer than at any time in the race.
Trump won Florida in both 2016 and 2020 securing 30 electoral votes, while Texas which has remained solidly red since 1976 was also won by Trump in 2020, garnering him 40 electoral college votes.
But the former president has seen his support erode among most demographic groups since his Democratic rival in the November 5 election, Vice President Kamala Harris, replaced President Joe Biden atop the Democratic ticket over the summer.
Now in two states that were never considered swing states or toss-ups, things could be about to change with latest surveys from Emerson College suggesting Harris is now within the margin of error (about 3 points) in the two states.
The poll suggests Trump is only narrowly ahead in his home state of Florida at 50 percent with Harris at 45 percent.
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Latest polls suggest the southern states of Texas and Florida , which Trump carried comfortably by 5 points and 4 points respectively in 2020, are now far closer
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Kamala Harris was welcomed by Senator John Fetterman and his wife Gisele Barreto Fetterman at Pittsburgh Airport on Friday
County elections supervisors revealed there are currently 5.3 million active Republican voters in Florida compared to 4.3 million active Democratic voters.
But Florida could still flip either way with a further 3.9 million voters who are either not affiliate with any political party or who affiliate with minor parties...............................
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)flying_wahini
(8,275 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)BluenFLA
(229 posts)Even if she loses the state, by going to Florida Trump will be forced to spend resources in defending his adopted home state whenever she or her high profile surrogates visit. Remember, she has a better ground game than him.
There is no way his ego can handle him losing the state to her. So he won't listen to reason as he blows his money in the state. They are already throwing away money just to air ads near Mar A Lago just to keep him happy.
As a bonus, the money and time he wastes in Florida is taken away from the Blue Wall states, which guarantees her victory up north.
CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,501 posts)wrong to me. Trump is closing shop in places like NH, NJ and VA that were supposedly close not too long ago, but aren't any longer.
And swing states are now tightening or Harris has leads, states whose polling supposedly were the kiss of death for President Biden.
And now polls like these from Texas and Florida. The Times poll seems fishy, Trump cookie sales in PA notwithstanding.
Lonestarblue
(13,480 posts)Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,117 posts)Not sure whether they do that or not but that just seems wise.
Gaytano70
(1,234 posts)WHY so they use his last name and her first name?
Metaphorical
(2,634 posts)Gee, you'd almost think that they don't want her to win.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)Kaleva
(40,365 posts)However, regarding Margaret Thatcher, most people called her by her last name . Pelosi is another example.
msongs
(73,753 posts)IOW....what a load of MALARKY
Kaleva
(40,365 posts)She seems to be comfortable either way
Gaytano70
(1,234 posts)And stop ignoring context. False equivalency. The title of an article that is not a merchandise store. I call VP Harris Kamala with my friends, but talking is not writing. An article that names both candidates must show objectivity and balance. Stating just the first name is a diminutive when the other is presented as their last name.
Oh, and N.T
Walleye
(44,805 posts)MagickMuffin
(18,318 posts)Governors of Texas
Rick Perry Republican December 21, 2000 - January 20, 2015
George W. Bush 2 Republican January 17, 1995 - December 21, 2000
Ann W. Richards Democrat January 15, 1991 - January 17, 1995
Mark W. White, Jr. Democrat January 18, 1983 - January 20, 1987
During Ann Richards last campaign Karl Rove started his whisper campaign that Ann was gay. That was the last time a Democrat has been elected to the governorship.
griffi94
(3,830 posts)Richards wouldn't have won if Clayton Williams hadn't made a rape joke in front of some reporters.
She was trailing by a significant amount until that incident.
She ended up winning by a couple of points but with less than 50% of the vote.
It probably helps Kamala that Trump and Vance have attitudes toward women that Clayton Williams had.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)And she was out in four years.
She won by 2.6 points in 1990 against a guy, as you said, who joked about rape. Williams was a terrible candidate. He also refused to shake Richards' hand after their debate, which didn't help.
Still...he barely lost.
Texas was shifting further and further red even before Rove.
Cirsium
(3,943 posts)Then:
"...Florida, which Trump carried comfortably by 4 points in 2020..."
Now:
"The poll suggests Trump is only narrowly ahead in his home state of Florida at 50 percent with Harris at 45 percent."
Is a 5% margin comfortable or is it narrow?
carpetbagger
(5,484 posts)Similarly in Texas. Trump won by 5.6 percent and is ahead 5 percent in a poll. And the article was sloppy enough to forget that the EV numbers were different, unimportant but reinforces the sloppiness.
MyMission
(2,010 posts)Are important issues and will motivate many women, and many men who love and care about them. Florida and Texas are 2 large states, which means larger female friendly populations who will vote blue. Both states were not landslides for tfg, but were fairly close within several percentage points. I think it's possible to gain one or both, with Florida more likely.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)
GaYellowDawg
(5,101 posts)Texas and Florida aren't happening.
et tu
(2,387 posts)legged dog that florida goes blue-
roevember is coming and a lot of snowbirds
from the north have migrated there.
LAS14
(15,506 posts)Latest polls suggest the southern states of Texas and Florida, which Trump carried comfortably by 5 points and 4 points respectively in 2020, are now far closer than at any time in the race.
Now in two states that were never considered swing states or toss-ups, things could be about to change with latest surveys from Emerson College suggesting Harris is now within the margin of error (about 3 points) in the two states.
LostOne4Ever
(9,752 posts)I was born and raised here and I can confidently say that has not changed and will not change in my lifetime.
Florida used to be a swing state so I could see it becoming one again.
PennRalphie
(448 posts)She has to be crystal clear on fracking.
If shes crystal clear, PA goes to her and the election is hers.
I have confidence shes going to say and do the right thing. No ambiguity on fracking. Its either a yes or a no.
PA voting is different this year. All of those ballots arent being sent out automatically.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)but here we are. And many didn't expect Obama to win as many new states as he did in 2008. High turnout is good for our side. Lots of new people are voting.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)and not just because TFG stepped in a big pile of doodoo with his crowing about getting Roe overturned, it's because both states have autocratic asshole governors who have overstepped their bounds and a lot of people are sick of it.
Any Harris victory will likely be so close as to trigger an automatic recount, and recounts always seem to favor Democrats, and that will trigger TFG to start screeching about how rigged everything is, not sure if either Abbott or DeSatan will agree to another farce of a bunch of tech bros coming in like they know anything about elections and do a slow and theatricl recount, which will again favor Democrats. Expect high drama if Harris wins either state.
I want the Orange Tick to know it's all over but the prison term.
ananda
(35,144 posts)Of course, Garland and the DOJ are doing nothing about this.
Indykatie
(3,868 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,136 posts)We might have a shot in FL, but TX cheats so well it would be hard to believe
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)oasis
(53,693 posts)Persondem
(2,101 posts)If Harris/Walz have resources to fund down ballot races (as reported) then they can DO SOMETHING to move the needle even more in TX and FL.