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onandup

(701 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:33 PM Sep 2024

Chait: Kamala Harris Should Cut Joe Biden Loose

Kamala Harris is navigating a tricky dilemma, according to the New York Times. She “will try to promote herself as a change candidate without criticizing President Biden.” The story quotes numerous Democrats, inside and outside the administration, as to precisely how Harris should manage the delicate balance between her loyalty to Biden and the public’s clamoring for change during her debate with Donald Trump.

I have no reason to doubt that this accurately conveys the calculus within the Harris campaign. That struggle was apparent in Harris’s interview with CNN, when she responded to a question about turning the page buy contrasting herself exclusively against Donald Trump, rather than her current boss. My question is: Why is this a struggle? Why not directly repudiate unpopular Biden positions?

Joe Biden is literally one person. He lives in a safe state. Harris doesn’t have to worry about forfeiting his vote. Even the universe of people who are personally loyal to Biden, and might take offense at slights to his accomplishments, consists entirely of partisan Democrats who will vote for the Democrat at the end of the day (or more likely, several days before the end of the day).

Rather than trying to balance loyalty to Biden against catering to the desires of the electorate, Harris’s strategy should focus entirely on catering to the public with no attention whatsoever to Biden’s feelings.


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kamala-harris-debate-trump-cut-joe-biden-loose.html
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Chait: Kamala Harris Should Cut Joe Biden Loose (Original Post) onandup Sep 2024 OP
She has to be careful. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #1
Biden is beloved by people who are voting for Harris anyway onandup Sep 2024 #3
Yes she has to be careful. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #7
Why Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #10
I am curious why you ask. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #12
Why would she want to distance herself? Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #15
Horseshit. What exactly are "unpopular Biden positions?" emulatorloo Sep 2024 #2
The only thing really is the unwavering pro Israel stance. dsp3000 Sep 2024 #13
My question exactly! The issue is that moonscape Sep 2024 #14
Exactly. And he's supposedly "deeply and consistently unpopular." betsuni Sep 2024 #19
Fuck that. LuvLoogie Sep 2024 #4
Maybe Harris should just do whatever she and her team feel is appropriate. tanyev Sep 2024 #5
She will strike the right balance. ALBliberal Sep 2024 #6
He can take his "take" and senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #8
Oh please stop with the nonsense Keepthesoulalive Sep 2024 #9
Complete nonsense! poli-junkie Sep 2024 #11
because there is absolutely ZERO political gain to be had in disparaging stopdiggin Sep 2024 #16
Jeezus... displacedvermoter Sep 2024 #17
Not just no but hell no Hekate Sep 2024 #18
Chair should cut bait and go fishing. ananda Sep 2024 #20

Irish_Dem

(61,137 posts)
1. She has to be careful.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:37 PM
Sep 2024

Joe Biden is a beloved figure and she cannot be seen to trash talk him.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
3. Biden is beloved by people who are voting for Harris anyway
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:40 PM
Sep 2024

And I'm confident she could and would do it in a way that isn't disrespectful.

Irish_Dem

(61,137 posts)
7. Yes she has to be careful.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:46 PM
Sep 2024

But it can be done.

She doesn't want to cause hard feelings within the base.

emulatorloo

(45,655 posts)
2. Horseshit. What exactly are "unpopular Biden positions?"
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:39 PM
Sep 2024

Tax the rich, tax cuts for the middle class, build the economy from the middle up, affordable housing, etc etc. These are Harris’ positions as well. What is she supposed to “denounce?”

Pundits are getting on my last nerve.

dsp3000

(647 posts)
13. The only thing really is the unwavering pro Israel stance.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:54 PM
Sep 2024

But say too much and aipac will make sure she loses

moonscape

(5,428 posts)
14. My question exactly! The issue is that
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 2024

people don’t understand what the admin did. They couldn’t see past “he’s old” to pay attention.

The majority of Americans LOVE the results of the admin, and results in the pipeline, even some MAGAS though they’re ignorant due to FOX (and maybe some nature/nurture reasons going on!)

LuvLoogie

(7,643 posts)
4. Fuck that.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:41 PM
Sep 2024

She's not Mike Pence.

I suppose the press has moved on from Spunk in a Cup Boy's trashing of trump.

tanyev

(44,933 posts)
5. Maybe Harris should just do whatever she and her team feel is appropriate.
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:42 PM
Sep 2024

The giant problem IS Donald Trump, not Joe Biden.

senseandsensibility

(20,520 posts)
8. He can take his "take" and
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:48 PM
Sep 2024

do you know what. Oh look, another beltway journalist has advice for Harris? Maybe I'll listen to him if he gives cheato some debate advice. Something tells me he won't.

Keepthesoulalive

(893 posts)
9. Oh please stop with the nonsense
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:49 PM
Sep 2024

We need all of the democrats to stand with Kamala. Stop pecking at each other like a bunch of hens.
We need,Joe, Obama, Clinton and all of our party members to stand together and beat his orange behind back to trump tower or jail.

poli-junkie

(1,161 posts)
11. Complete nonsense!
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:52 PM
Sep 2024

There’s nothing to be ashamed about Biden. Kamala is proud to be his teammate, and now it’s her turn to carry the baton.

stopdiggin

(13,147 posts)
16. because there is absolutely ZERO political gain to be had in disparaging
Mon Sep 9, 2024, 04:56 PM
Sep 2024

either the current president - or his record?

(kinda' glad somebody isn't shot calling for the campaign ... ) I think Kamala is doing just fine with this 'issue'.

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