3:35 bodycam footage of the Tyreek Hill stop. Thoughts?

[underpants]

The guy who pulled over in front of this is his teammate Calais Campbell who was cuffed at one point which is not in the video. On edit - I’m not sure who the other guy in Campbell’s vehicle is.

Link to tweet

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[Dennis Donovan]

1. The LEO's involved are likely subscribers to the Fraternal Order of Police...

They're bad cops and should be disciplined or re-assigned where they don't deal with the public in this manner.

My Dad was a cop, so their actions tend to piss me off more, knowing my Dad was never a bad cop (according to many people who knew him both inside and outside of his duties).

[underpants]

4. As his coach said later, I can't know how he feels

Of all the run ins I or people I know have had with cops (some are downright comical) something like THAT was never within the universe of possibilities of how it could have gone. Not even close. Middle class basically suburban white kids - literally no chance of things going anywhere near THAT.

[onetexan]

8. no, they need to be fired. these SOBs have power tripping problems and you can see they are escalating the situation,

not the football players. They are manhandling him and physically abusing him though he's warned them he just had surgery on his knee. My BP has risen watching this gross abuse of power. I hope Tyreek sues the pants off these idiots. Men like them should not be wearing a badge.

[Tribetime]

2. Disgusting abuse of power nt

[underpants]

5. "I'm IN the car" the other guy in the second vehicle

I had to laugh at that. I had an incident like that once with a cop. As I said above - what I saw was never close to the realm of possibility in any interaction I or anyone I’ve known has ever had with a cop.

[Think. Again.]

3. looks like any other bodycam of a traffic stop on youtube.

[Kaleva]

6. Not sure why driver didn't roll down his window

Looks similar to the vids I've watched of sovereign citizens who are pulled over by the police and believe they don't have to obey the orders of the police. It ended badly for all of them.

[underpants]

7. He did roll it down and hand them his license

but he rolled it back up. Eh. I probably wouldn’t but I don’t think it warranted THAT.

[Kaleva]

9. This looked like any other traffic stop where the driver didn't obey the police officer

[Solomon]

14. Sure. Blame it on the victim.

[Kaleva]

28. I don't see a victim in the video.

I see an idiot.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

53. I've never seen someone dragged out at 9 seconds from the "step out of the car" warning on a traffic stop.

I’ve never seen “we are going to break your fucking window” at 4 seconds from the step out order.

I’ve watched hundreds of these. This has to be the quickest drag out after step out order I’ve seen. Especially for a routine stop where a driver produced his ID.

[obamanut2012]

58. Except he DID obey the cops

There is no Florida law that states a driver must roll down his window, except enough to present documents, which the driver did. He complied.

[Kaleva]

84. Best practices when pulled over

"Upon being pulled over, it’s best practice to:

Continue driving until you reach a safe location.
Once there, roll down your window, turn off the car, and visibly place your hands on the steering wheel.
Keep your hands on the wheel, avoid sudden movements, and if asked to provide documentation, request permission to reach for it.
You’re also required to exit the vehicle if an officer requests you to do so.
And passengers, remember: you must identify yourselves if suspected of a crime or involved in a traffic violation, but you also maintain the right to remain silent."

https://www.browardcriminalteam.com/news/understanding-your-rights-is-florida-a-stop-and-id-state/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20in%20Florida%2C%20you%20are,smooth%20interaction%20with%20law%20enforcement.

[Happy Hoosier]

92. Cops do not have unlimited authority...

These cops just got pissed that a black man in an expensive car didn't kow-tow to them. As long as the driver gave them their license, there is no good reason to demand the window to be rolled down. This was all about "respecting muh authitay!"

IN short, cops suck.

[Kaleva]

93. Best practices when pulled over

"Upon being pulled over, it’s best practice to:

Continue driving until you reach a safe location.
Once there, roll down your window, turn off the car, and visibly place your hands on the steering wheel.
Keep your hands on the wheel, avoid sudden movements, and if asked to provide documentation, request permission to reach for it.
You’re also required to exit the vehicle if an officer requests you to do so.
And passengers, remember: you must identify yourselves if suspected of a crime or involved in a traffic violation, but you also maintain the right to remain silent."

https://www.browardcriminalteam.com/news/understanding-your-rights-is-florida-a-stop-and-id-state/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20in%20Florida%2C%20you%20are,smooth%20interaction%20with%20law%20enforcement.

What where you taught to do if pulled over?

[Happy Hoosier]

95. In other wirds... grovel before the police so they don't get mad.

And no, you are NOT required exit a vehicle when REQUESTED to. You must do so if ORDERED to. (I watch a lot of Lehto Law)

It's absoutely gross that we're in a position where citizens must have a list of rules so cops don't get mad and possibly kill us for no reason at all except that their thirst for power over people is not sated... at a fucking TRAFFIC STOP of all thing.

A friend of my daughter who was 17 at the time was reutuning home from a late night from work (about 1 in the morning). She almost turned too early, and then corrected herself. A cop pulled her over. She was terrified and became emotional because the cop was convinced she was on drugs. He held her there for 3 hours while they waited for a drug sniffing dog. Would not allow her to sit. She was able to call her mom, who came down (cops would not let her near), so she called a lawyer. Drug-sniffer arrived 3:30 AM. Their probable cause was that this 17-year-old girl (honor student... on a state championship volleyball team) was "acting hysterical like she's on drugs". When the drug sniffer dog arrived, they made her lie face-down on the pavement and hand-cuffed her. She had a panic attack and fainted. Her mom asked that they call an ambulance. They refused. She called 911. They found no drugs of course. Nothing of interest at all. The lawyer arrived and the the police supervisor (who arrived moments before) ordered the stop ended. They didn't even write her ticket (because she hadn't actually violated any traffic laws!).

The officer who conducted the stop was given a reprimand. That's it. Nothing else. This girl is traumitized, and couldn't even drive for 6 months. But nothing else.

So pardon me, but fuck the police and the apologists for them.

[Kaleva]

97. The position of the car window isn't a hill worth dying on

What you call groveling, others call being smart.

I'm still interested in hearing what you were taught to do when pulled over.

[Happy Hoosier]

98. Yes, we must not offend our overlords in blue.

TO be clear, I try the cordial route with cops and it usually works. I usually just get a warning. But I am white middle-aged upper-middle class man. I am at little risk. If I was a young black man? I'd be VERY wary of cops. All the time.

[Johnny2X2X]

10. You do not have to keep your window rolled down

That's not a lawful order.

But Hill said the reason he was trying to keep it up is to not attract a crowd if the people walking by saw it was him.

He was going 55-60 in a 40, he rolled his window down and gave the officers his documentation and then said, "do what you got to do." As in, write me my ticket so I can be on my way. Most of the officers were fine and would have done just that, written him a ticket and let him go, but one officer was on a power trip and decided to drag him out of th car and pin him to the pavement. This same officer is also the one who decided to throw him to the ground and apply a choke hold a second time. And I think it was the same officer who then came running over to Calais Campbell to cuff him after other officers had it under control.

[underpants]

12. Thank you.

The other bit I’ve read multiple times is that he was going 103 in a 55 MPH zone. That is a standard response from what I’ve seen. I knew it was BS because I couldn’t find it in any news story in this but watching this video I saw a street that there’s no way that’s a 55 zone.

[JCMach1]

17. The stop was for seatbelt

It was over the top, south Florida racist overreaction.


He also knew from other cop it was Tyreek Hill and not a random stop. Literally on his way to work. Cop pulls racist power trip anyway ...

[underpants]

21. Correct. Short video with audio. The cop says it's for his seatbelt

Link to tweet

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[obamanut2012]

60. Yup, it is allll over he was going 100 miles over the speed limit

[Kaleva]

32. Best practices

"Upon being pulled over, it’s best practice to:

Continue driving until you reach a safe location.
Once there, roll down your window, turn off the car, and visibly place your hands on the steering wheel.
Keep your hands on the wheel, avoid sudden movements, and if asked to provide documentation, request permission to reach for it.
You’re also required to exit the vehicle if an officer requests you to do so.
And passengers, remember: you must identify yourselves if suspected of a crime or involved in a traffic violation, but you also maintain the right to remain silent."

https://www.browardcriminalteam.com/news/understanding-your-rights-is-florida-a-stop-and-id-state/#:~:text=Yes%2C%20in%20Florida%2C%20you%20are,smooth%20interaction%20with%20law%20enforcement.

[JCMach1]

39. So Tyreek Hill (he knows it is him) a mile from his work

On a work day he is going to be doing something besides going to work and perhaps running his mouth at worse???

Not credible at all.

Think this would happen to Tom Brady??? And there's the answer why it happened.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

74. "Think this would happen to Tom Brady???"

100% the cops would apologize for inconveniencing him, ask if he'd like a police escort to the stadium, beg for an autograph and a selfie, while falling all over themselves in awe.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

67. "If your windows are tinted so dark the officer can't see what you're doing....."

Then how did the cops know he wasn't wearing his seatbelt??

Ugly, racist abuse of power cop bullshit.

[Tarc]

89. He was stopped for speeding

Then the cop noticed the lack of a seatbelt, i.e. the secondary offense.

Pay attention.

[Beringia]

59. Good rundown of the scenario

[uponit7771]

25. Most school shooters get less aggression from cops, there's something wrong ... period

[cyndensco]

30. I'd be upset if one of my grown sons did not comply.

Not because I think Hill was overly disrespectful, but because I do not trust cops.

We had The Talk with my kids when they were 10 years old: If a cop stops you, do what they say, get away and we will deal with them later. SURVIVE!!

Oh and sure, not all cops are bad but I wouldn't want my kids to play Russian Roulette either,

[obamanut2012]

54. Because there is no law to say you have to roll down yoru window

I loathe Tyreek, but he complied.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. Feature, not a bug.

ACAB.

[Joe Cool]

13. Neither the police nor Tyreek are completely innocent in this situation, but

the police are suppose to act like professionals. They did not act in any way like professionals.

[Solomon]

15. Pray tell what did Tyreek do that allows you start the both siderism bullshit?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

68. But you said his windows were tinted so cops have the right...

...so how did cops see seatbelt violation?

[JCMach1]

18. Don't go on a racist power trip on a seatbelt stop

The cop also was told who this was in the video. It was a deliberate escalation. Same police also overreacted to concerned teammates.

100% bad policing from a troubled agency.

[Johnny2X2X]

65. Neither innocent?

Yeah, in the same way both sides aren't innocent when someone says something I disagree with and I punch him in the face.

There was no reason other than wanting to humilate someone for that officer to drag him out of his car and hold him face down on the road, period. He did it because he wanted to humiliate him.

[JCMach1]

16. Typical south Florida racism

Why do you think Trump is relatively popular in Miami?: it's the racism ...

[orthoclad]

19. Is there a text description?

No clix to mux.

[underpants]

26. Let me try

Motorcycle cop
Big wide street the main way into the stadium I’d think.
Mostly empty. 2 - 3hours before game. Cones down the middle of the street cop is sitting in between the cones.
Seatbelt stop.
Cop pulls up while he’s driving. Window comes down. Cop yells for him to pull over.

Several motorcycle cops approach the vehicle.
Hill rolls down window.
Cop says it’s for the seatbelt.
Hill hands his license. Says, “Do whatever you all have to do” rolls up the window.
Cop starts knocking on the window telling him to roll it down. Another cop comes in and opens the car door. They pull him out. He’s on the phone telling someone to call “Drew” which is his agent.

They put him face down on the street. Knee in the back to secure his hands. Oh they knew who he was at this point. Cuff him. Stand him up. Take him into the sidewalk. I think the original cop runs in and hits him in the back telling him to get on the ground. The first video I saw looked like a kick into the back of his leg.

Meantime a teammate and someone else in the car pull in front of this situation. The cops start yelling at him to move the car. He’s on the phone. Back and forth between the cop and Campbell. Campbell stopped to check on his teammate and is clearly trying to diffuse the whole situation. Video stops but Campbell was cuffed at one point.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. I don't think it was a seatbelt stop.

TMZ has the video where you can see the car fly past. He was obviously speeding. The cop had to haul ass to catch up to him.

I think the seatbelt was added in as the cop switched into “contempt of cop” mode.

He was yanked and arrested for contempt of cop - with the all important “officer safety” excuse to drag him out of the car.

[underpants]

34. Audio of the cop

Link to tweet

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[Hassin Bin Sober]

35. Full video

https://www.tmz.com/sports/

[orthoclad]

49. Thank you.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

79. It wasn't a seatbelt stop. He was stopped because he was speeding. He was cited for careless driving - plus seatbelt.

Other than that, cops were complete assholes.

The total time form “step out of the car” to hands-on was 9 seconds (with a threat to “break your fucking window” at 4 seconds).

No De-Escalation. No warning. Just unprofessionalism and rude behavior.

[dalton99a]

20. Notice the cops have accents - Trump Hispanics?

[yardwork]

24. It's south Florida. Many people there are Hispanic.

[JCMach1]

42. Trump, not Trump there is deep racism in the South Florida Hispanic community

I didn't want to say it, but it is the unsaid part in all of this.

If you know, you know

[Torchlight]

22. A bad stop.

I think attempts to subsidize and distribute blame are at best, misleading.

[jimfields33]

100. Interesting.

[Mysterian]

23. That anyone would consider this acceptable police behavior is mind-boggling

The police are completely our of control in the USA, emboldened by fascists like Trump.

[uponit7771]

27. +1, Most school shooters get less aggression from cops, there's something wrong ... period

[obamanut2012]

61. Except the driver 100% complied as per Florida law

[Mysterian]

75. Laws get sensitive?

WTF are you talking about?

[Mysterian]

96. Laws are laws, sparky

It's power-trippin' cops that get sensitive.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

69. Agree.

The justifications here make me sick.

[EX500rider]

29. Cop seemed hasty and Tyreek didn't follow lawful commands

Rolling the window up during the stop a bad move & they have the lawful right to ask you to step out of the car which he didn't.

Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106, is a United States Supreme Court criminal law decision holding that a police officer ordering a person out of a car following a traffic stop and conducting a pat-down to check for weapons did not violate the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

40. Cops should de escalate. Not escalate at the drop of a hat.

There is supposed to be a continuum of force along with verbal warnings of what happens if you don’t follow a lawful order.

The time from “step out of the car” to “we are going to break your fucking window” was 4 seconds. 9 seconds from “step out of the car” to going to hands on.

The cops were rude and unprofessional in their actions, language and demeanor.

[BannonsLiver]

31. I thought Tyreek was a violent abuser before this and I thibk he will continue to be a violent abuser.

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The fact that he was speeding and got pulled over and some officers who are terrible at their job that weren’t cowed by his celebrity doesn’t change that.

[JCMach1]

44. Cowed? It was a seatbelt stop. Seatbelt!

The cop knew who he was.

The cop immediately (less than 8 seconds) went off in a racist, reactive, over the top manner.

If you are a cop, are you writing the ticket for the VIP at his work venue, or are you going to try to make a racist a$$ out of yourself and land on the news?

And honestly, I am more than a little disgusted by people on DU defending the police in this instance.

[BannonsLiver]

47. I couldn't possibly care less.

[JCMach1]

50. I am going to bow out of this thread or I will go off

On some people who can't see racism directly in front of their eyes.



I am done here

[MorbidButterflyTat]

71. Right there with you.

You're not alone.

[Sympthsical]

63. It was not a seat belt stop

You've said this repeatedly in threads. He was stopped for speeding.

The cop asked him about the seat belt once he saw he wasn't wearing one.

Do you think police could tell he was or wasn't wearing a seat belt with windows practically vanta tinted?

[GoodRaisin]

37. I see a lot of unnecessary force being used by police once they start pulling

him out of the car. They didn’t even give him a chance to get out on his own. Police escalated the situation. Clearly.

[kcr]

38. They should have just given him his ticket

There was no reason they couldn't have. The way cops are trained and encouraged to be authoritarian bullies is a disgrace.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. Dolphins released a statement

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

52. +1

[Beringia]

56. Those officers are toast now, they got caught abusing their power

[Sympthsical]

64. That is a pitch perfect press release

Kudos to whoever wrote that one.

[ecstatic]

51. Yikes. Disturbing on multiple levels

We've had to put up with crap like this forever but now it seems like newly minted Americans are piling on as well. Such a gd shame. It looks like the cops were not clear on which country they were operating in and the laws of the land. But at least they didn't kill him. I guess we can be happy about that.

[obamanut2012]

57. Good grief, folks, Tyreek complied

There is no law saying he must roll down his window, there is no law saying he can't film the cops or be snotty to the cops. I loathe Tyreek because he is an awful person, but he complied.

[LexVegas]

62. Hill's long history of domestic violence and assault should not factor into this incident. The cops were wrong. nt

[MichMan]

77. Tyreek Hill a role model?

[MichMan]

82. Multiple instances of domestic violence

Beating up his pregnant girlfriend, accusations of breaking the arm of a three year old child, and also other assaults. Plus 10 children with 4 different women.

Does that sound like someone kids should look up to?

[MichMan]

87. You said people looked up to him as a role model

I wouldn't call someone with his history a role model. There are likely others who don't give a shit as long as he catches a football. Apparently the NFL falls into that camp, as they look the other way.

[intrepidity]

76. Pigs. nt

[doc03]

78. Is this video taken out of context? I have no idea what the reason for stopping him was. From the posts here

he was going 55MPH in a 40MPH or had no seat belt on or he was going over 100MPH. I have no idea.
If it was just 55MPH in a 40 or a seat belt why in the hell were there 5 Motorcycle officers there. Where they in pursuit
because he was going 100MPH. Is it common practice there to call for back-up on just a routine traffic stop are we being told the whole story. It appeared all he had to do was give the cop his license. His windows was so dark he could have rolled the window up and ended up pulling a gun from under the seat and shooting the officer. With the gun laws we have today a cop has to assume everyone he pulls over has a gun. The bystanders should have stayed in their car and kept out of it.

[Tarc]

91. It is a mile from the stadium on game day

There's a heavy police presence there already for traffic flow and such.

He was pulled over for speeding.