Wow, this is totally unexpected.

[Initech]

When I was out walking my dog last night, a neighbor who I previously thought was MAGA (mainly because he drives a ton of ridiculously large vehicles and belongs to an off-roading club that has that kind of clientele) just put out a Harris / Walz sign in their front yard. And this is in one of the reddest neighborhoods in all of Orange County (California). I think the number of people on my street who are voting for Harris, I could count on one hand, including myself. Never in a million years would I have expected that, but I really do hope that it's a sign of things to come.

I've definitely been seeing a lot less Trump garbage and a lot more Harris / Walz signs lately. Maybe it's a sign that people have finally had enough of Trump's blathering bullshit? Or maybe they're finally realizing the true dangers of what Project 2025 could entail and what losing American democracy would mean?

[Think. Again.]

1. The Purple Wave is building.

[Initech]

12. Yes it is!

[Moostache]

2. If only we had dispersed into red states instead of congregating...

Our problem is NOT beating Trump or the GOP...they have won ONE national popular vote in the 21st century (2004) and even THAT had some serious questions around it.

Our problem is the damn electoral college that insists land votes and people don't matter. Having that archaic ode to slavery and the 18th century STILL determining the future of a 21st century republic is tragic beyond all words. We risk losing the longest running secular republic in 2 millenia because of a few thousand mouth breathing imbeciles in red hats and more merch than teeth...

[Initech]

4. I know, fuck the electoral college!

That system needs to be done away with now! Land doesn't vote.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

7. Houses are cheap here. Come! Help me flip us back.

Just ignore your neighbors. Mokusatsu them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mokusatsu

[Horse with no Name]

21. I love Hot Springs

It is my get away but I hate the politics!
I am retiring the next few years. I would love to move to the beauty that is Arkansas when I leave Texas but I have to go to a blue state. I can’t keep living with this.

[TomSlick]

26. Arkansas would be at least a small step-up from Texas.

We could use the help moderating the bubba vote.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

65. The new slogan by the Ark Dept of Tourism: "Arkansas: The Least Red State West of the Mississippi"

What do you think guys?

[TomSlick]

66. Works for me.

How about "Arkansas, the least obnoxiously red state west of the Mississippi?"

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

67. "Arkansas: We're Not Texas"

[TomSlick]

68. DING, DING, DING

We have a winner.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

34. I spent my teen years there.

There are purple cities. I see Harris yard signs here

[soldierant]

63. Well, that was an interesting lesson

in both linguistics and history.

[llmart]

18. Just watched an excellent program on PBS Independent Lens.

It was about the history of the electoral college. There are several states who passed legislation to use the winner of the popular vote. Maybe someday soon all 50 states will do the same. It seems that the majority of the people want to do away with the electoral college.

[mobeau69]

27. Don't understand. At the state level the popular vote gets the electoral votes.

[Moostache]

45. The state level is gerrymandered all to hell and it is district by district distribution...

They win the GOP dominated states as a matter of course and then they are able to take nominally "purple" states - where despite overall vote totals that would suggest even or Democratic leaning contingents and convert them into Republican majorities - without ever winning a simply majority of the overall vote.

The office of the President SHOULD be the one office of pure popular vote determination. Congress and Senate make sense to be state level (but with independent and fair districts drawn up), but the President is the one government office that represents the total US population, so it is only right to have a system that reflects that instead of a rigged homage to slavery that does not!

[markodochartaigh]

48. One thing is that it is

winner takes all. 6 million Trump votes in California and 5 million Biden votes in Texas meant nothing.


https://harvardpolitics.com/abolishing-the-electoral-college-might-not-be-as-hard-as-you-think/

[Beartracks]

58. Maybe llmart means the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

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[mobeau69]

59. Thanks. I didn't know about this.

[Beartracks]

60. You're welcome!

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[soldierant]

64. Now that you do, please spread the word as widely as you can.

Between the Republicans pretending they respect the constitution, and Democrats actually respecting the Constitution, I firmly believe we will never be able to get an amendment abolishing the College passed until this compact is in force, and has been for a few Presidential elections. I don't expect to live to see it - I'm 79 - but if we are to continue to be a democracy, even an imperfect one, an amendment must happen.

[North Coast Lawyer]

30. I'm moving

I'm fixing a decrepit 140 year old house I bought in Elise Stefanik's district in Upstate NY. When I move there to retire in a couple of years my vote won't impact the electoral college but I'm planning on doing everything I can to send the MTG of the north packing.

[IronLionZion]

37. Demographics have been shifting. That's how we gained new blue states

like Georgia and Arizona, and a few elections back it was Virginia and Colorado.

But that has also lost us some voters in previously solid blue states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and PA.

Plenty of urban folks have moved to places with lower cost of living, warmer climates, different job opportunities than the old rust belt type, and so on.

[usonian]

3. Trump "jumped (in) the shark"

And there's a giant tipping point happening.
https://democraticunderground.com/100219427348
CA by itself can turn the house blue.

He deserves a "Comey Moment" (when Jack Smith presents new evidence) and a "Willie Horton" one as well.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19424751

And on to Davy Jones.

[Initech]

10. He jumped the shark on his brand of electric boats!

To quote the Big Lebowski - "What in god's holy name are you blathering about????"

[usonian]

14. I keep sending him toasters disguised as rubber duckies.

Apparently, he doesn't bathe.

(just kidding)

[Evolve Dammit]

31. It's "the weave" to nowhere...

[Tribetime]

5. I had the same experience on a die hard maga woman in her mid 60s

Was posting about social security is earned and not an entitlement. So maybe people are reading project 2025.

[Initech]

6. Also if you like your boats and aquatic toys, Project 2025 will eliminate the EPA and Parks Dept.

So yeah that means no lakes, which means you can't use your boats.

[33taw]

11. Unless you own one.

[markodochartaigh]

49. DeSantis is having to backpedal

on an idea to put golf courses, pickle ball, and hotels in state parks.


https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2024/florida-state-parks-proposal-for-golf-courses-hotels-was-further-along-than-desantis-let-on/

[Initech]

51. Leslie Knope's worst nightmare!

Fuck DeSantis and fuck people who vote for him too!

[Mz Pip]

8. I've noticed this too

Even though California is solid blue, the central valley and northeastern part is very red. The past two election this area was covered in Trump signs. This year, not so much.

[CaptainTruth]

9. Great! Biden took Orange County by 23 points in 2020...

...the Orange Country in Florida, around Orlando. Not sure if that's the one you're referring to?

[Initech]

15. No, California.

We have a lot of MAGA votes and Fox News die-hards where I live, unfortunately. And a lot of people running for school boards who want to "take politics out of the classroom", while simultaneously making it more political than ever.

Then there's Huntington Beach right down the freeway, which many have called the "Florida Of California" because of how far right they lean.

[quaint]

19. In North O.C., I've also noticed fewer signs...

but across the street there are many flags, including a garage door covered.

[Initech]

20. Yeah I still see a lot of those flags on my daily commute.

Though I am seeing fewer of those stupid merch booths.

[rubbersole]

17. Orange County in Florida is blue surrounded by red.

(I'm next door in Volusia County.) Florida is in play for a whole bunch of reasons. Getting rid of Rick Scott is priority one in this house. Kamala could get Florida and Georgia plus the swing states. The magats would have to crawl back under their rocks and keep breeding their cousins...

[allegorical oracle]

42. Am near Gainesville, which is also a blue island surrounded

by red counties. Have been working w/ my county Dem committee, trying especially to unseat Scott. As much as I despised him, 'tho, DeSatan is 1000 times worse.

He's caused the housing situation to go crazy. A new law passed that requires structural updating of apartments and condos that are 30+ yrs old -- with the renters/owners footing bills that range between $20k and $60k. In some instances, the fees are due next month even though the law doesn't go into effect until first of 2025. Real estate listings in Gainesville have gone up 20% in just the past few months. People are bailing.

[rubbersole]

46. Scott is the most visibly corrupt elected official in Florida history.

Nazi Meatball Ron is taking state government over the cliff. Although term limited, until the legislators change it, he really thinks he is the chosen one. Wifey Casey is in line to run after his term ends. They'd be lucky to get 25% of the vote. 'Screwing the Pooch' is what we called it when we used to be civil. At my fire engine red barbershop everybody thinks he's power mad and dangerous.

[senseandsensibility]

38. I was just going to say that although OC historically was a red part of CA

it has been turning blue, and Biden carried it easily last time. Everyone I know there is at least moderate. Hubby's family is from there, and our next door neighbors just moved there. They have a large Vietnamese population, and of course like everywhere in CA, a large Hispanic population. So overall, OC is not red in the traditional sense. Of course, every area has its maga contingent. We have some in deep blue Bay Area as well.

[quaint]

47. I live in one of the reddest neighborhoods in a purplish red city in a gloriously blue county (finally).

Fortunately, not all Asians vote alike. Here we have lots of rich Republicans, regardless of ethnicity.

[onetexan]

13. Yup i think MAGA fever is breaking

Sen. Bernie sanders said the same last month.🇺🇸🇺🇸🌊🇺🇸🤞🇺🇸

[ProudMNDemocrat]

16. There are holdouts because they want theirs....

But disappointed they will be. For they are nothing than "a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." (From the Gospel according to Obi Wan Kenobi.)

[txwhitedove]

25. Ha, Yoda speak plus an Obi Wan Kenobi quote! To be remembered when next i find myself in a

wretched hive of scum and villany. I live in Texas but have only seen a We the People flag, an actual yard sign "Wu Tang Forever", and my own Harris & Walz sign and Cat Ladies for Harris flag. My neighborhood is cool blue.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

29. I am such a Geek that way.

[LauraInLA]

22. From your mouth to God's ears! And not to pick on you -- much ;) -- but I think it's to our peril when we

ascribe political leanings based on people’s hobbies, etc., which can be based on geography, family history, etc. Like suspicions about people who own guns, hunt, off-road, attend book readings, ad nauseum.

[Initech]

23. Yeah that is a good point.

[LauraInLA]

24. I'm guilty of this all the time.

[Jimbo S]

40. Guilty

Identity politics. I have a math background. Play the odds.

[LauraInLA]

52. Me, too ;)

[gab13by13]

28. I live in Magatville

A borough of 2,500 and today I saw my first Harris/Walz sign, there were several more signs but I missed them driving by.

TSF is going down. Kamala will thrash him by 10 million votes.

[woodsprite]

32. I'm gradually seeing Harris/Walz signs pop up around our neighborhood

I’m a bit surprised because many have not displayed their political persuasions in the past.

[Dem4life1970]

33. I see a blue blowout coming....

...yes cue the panic.... don't be overconfident, blah, blah, blah but they have eyes and ears. When Trump opens his mouth, he loses votes amongst independents and Republicans. I don't see the 50/50 math we are being sold by the MSM. This is NOT 2016 and Kamala is not Hillary.

[FakeNoose]

35. I live in the city of Pittsburgh, and there aren't many yard signs out

I think that's because we're all voting D and there's no need to tell our neighbors, who are also voting D.

Last weekend I took a drive out to Westmoreland County (southeast of us but close by) and I did see a few random yard signs for Chump. Those were literally the first Chump signs I've seen this year. It's quite different now than 4 years ago. That's why I'm certain Pennsylvania will go for Harris/Walz and I'm hoping our Senator Bob Casey will also win another term.

[ificandream]

36. A guy in my mostly blue neighborhood who was flying a Trump flag took it down for a 2nd time, hasn't put it up again

I'm assuming they've changed their mind, too.

[Trueblue Texan]

39. I can't tell you the number of folks that walk into the local party office afraid to put up signs...

I tell them they might be surprised how many of their neighbors feel the same way--they might be surprised how many of their neighbors are supporting the Democrats this year. I say we should put up our signs no matter what because there are other voters out there that need the encouragement of seeing they are not alone.

[Traildogbob]

41. I am not ready for

This y’all. I don’t get out much, lots and lots of forests all around me to hang with my dogs daily. But went to pick up my daughters dogs before I go to the airport to get her, and right at the kennel small business, four house near them had out Trump Vance signs. Made me nauseous and pissed. It’s just the start but I can not tolerate seeing that shit. Why do people put up displays that say, “I am an illiterate dumb ass”?
Gonna be a long ride. And this community is basically a Jesus subdivision for the local Baptist's.
And Jesus sent trump in their pea brain racist world.

[2naSalit]

43. I haven't been out much...

But when I go to town, the only non-Democratic party signs I see are for local elections like county commissioner. I've seen a few bumper stickers and decals but otherwise, nothing.

I'm sure there are signs out there, I just haven;t seen any in places I used to.

[hurple]

44. I live in a county that went 80% trump in 2020

Back then signs and flags and trump crap was EVERYWHERE. This year, I have seen only three or four signs for him anywhere. I've seen more for Haaris than him so far.

Amazing sign.

I usually work the polls on election day but this year I cannot, because it's a chemo day for me. I hope everything goes smooth.

[Trenzalore]

50. My mom is from Schuylkill County

Went up there a few weeks ago. Did not see as much Trump paraphernalia as I did when I drove through there in 2020

[Clouds Passing]

53. Now you've got some "new" neighbors!

[flying-skeleton]

54. What city in Orange County, CA?

Hope it's Red... Huntington Beach!

[Initech]

55. No a bit north of there.

I won't say which one without doxxing myself, but you can probably guess!

[Blue Owl]

56. tRump is hot garbage

That’s been festering out in the sun for awhile now

[Abolishinist]

57. On a clear day I can see the OC from my backyard!

Fortunately not the red yard signs.

Interesting that there are a lot of signs around you. Here in San Diego, at least in my neighborhood (65% blue) along the coast, I haven't seen a one for either Kamala or the former. I don't recall any four years ago either. There are/were some for local elections such as mayor/supervisor/city council and various propositions.

[AlexSFCA]

61. Harris is running the smartest campaigns I've seen - sharply focused on the purpled

laser focused on winning.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

62. And to think your neighbor did that BEFORE the debate.

Very good news from a fellow resident of the OC.