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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:20 PM Sep 2024

A quarter of Republicans think Trump should seize power even if he loses



Mark McKinnon
WTF!?


A quarter of Republicans think Trump should seize power even if he loses

As the election approaches, new polling shows the breadth of support for Trump’s authoritarian tendencies.

If the 2024 presidential election were held today, it’s not clear who would win. Vice President Kamala Harris has a slight national advantage, according to The Washington Post’s average of polls, but margins in swing states are uniformly narrow. If the polls are overestimating Harris’s support, Donald Trump will return to the White House. If they are underestimating her support, she’ll be the next president.

Unless, of course, there’s some successful, anti-democratic effort to subvert her victory. An effort that about a quarter of Republicans and 1 in 7 Americans overall think should be undertaken in the event that Trump loses.

That’s the determination of new national polling from PRRI. But before we dig into that, it’s useful to look at a different newly released poll, this one from the Associated Press and its partners at NORC and USAFacts.

In that poll, Americans were asked what information sources they trusted when it came to accurately reporting the results of the presidential election. The source that engendered the most trust (here reflecting the percentage of people saying they had at least a moderate amount of trust) was the certified results produced by government agencies. Local news sources (television and newspapers) were the next most trusted, followed by national news outlets. The candidates and their campaigns were among the least trusted — particularly Trump’s campaign.

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A quarter of Republicans think Trump should seize power even if he loses (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 OP
And the other 75% would sit there quietly if he tried it Trenzalore Sep 2024 #1
That remains to be seen. ZZenith Sep 2024 #2
No it doesn't SouthernCal_Dem Sep 2024 #3
I sure wish you were wrong about this. I really do. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2024 #4
No, they wouldn't. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #14
With what, his tiny hands? louis-t Sep 2024 #5
That's not how a democracy works you shitheads Blue Owl Sep 2024 #6
And 100% of democrats think that if ever tRUMP and his 25% rogue voters do decide to attempt to seize the SWBTATTReg Sep 2024 #7
Let 'em all move to Mars with Eloon. pecosbob Sep 2024 #8
How do they think they will be able to seize power? LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #9
By following the Underwear Gnomes business model Kaleva Sep 2024 #11
Probably the same people who believe cavemen crashed on earth in UFOs struggle4progress Sep 2024 #10
Meal Team Six vs the federal government Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2024 #12
That would include the cursed 6 of 9. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #13
Why was that question even asked? lame54 Sep 2024 #15
Yeah, Well Fuck those Traitors to USA.... Whiny Losers. Cha Sep 2024 #16
Yeah, him and what army? NameAlreadyTaken Sep 2024 #17
Shokcing it's not higher Johnny2X2X Sep 2024 #18
1/7 of Americans favoring insurrection is much too high for "business as usual" governance 0rganism Sep 2024 #19
A bunch of slaveholders tried that when Lincoln won. Ping Tung Sep 2024 #20
15% of Americans aren't sure the earth isn't flat. Pew poll. No lie. lindysalsagal Sep 2024 #21
Now it's treason. Before it was cheating. GOP can't win fair-and-square. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #22

SouthernCal_Dem

(967 posts)
3. No it doesn't
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

Anyone who would vote for him after Jan 6tth would definitely sit there quietly at the very least.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
4. I sure wish you were wrong about this. I really do.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:30 PM
Sep 2024

It won't be seventy-five percent, but it will be much higher than some people might want to consider.

Blue Owl

(59,103 posts)
6. That's not how a democracy works you shitheads
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:31 PM
Sep 2024

Seriously — why don’t we just ship these fucks to Russia and leave them there to see what it’s like living under a glorious authoritarian leader? If that’s what they want, maybe they need a taste of their own medicine….

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
7. And 100% of democrats think that if ever tRUMP and his 25% rogue voters do decide to attempt to seize the
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:31 PM
Sep 2024

government, throw them ALL in jail, and imprison them for election fraud. Do not allow any of them to ever vote again, unless they utter a new oath to the US.

tRUMP should be thrown in jail, w/o the abilty to ever use his phone again or communicate w/ the outside world. People would more or likely be killed yet again during this event, so the president should declare immediately a national emergency, and allow the government broad latitude in dealing w the rebels. No mercy.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
11. By following the Underwear Gnomes business model
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:51 PM
Sep 2024

Phase 1 Start revolt

Phase 2 ?

Phase 3 Seize Power

struggle4progress

(126,150 posts)
10. Probably the same people who believe cavemen crashed on earth in UFOs
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:10 PM
Sep 2024

and then had to learn how to ride dinosaurs

Cha

(319,074 posts)
16. Yeah, Well Fuck those Traitors to USA.... Whiny Losers.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:35 PM
Sep 2024

COPE HARDER MF.

How the fuck is TSF "gong to seize power"?! Fucker couldn't' do it in 2020 & he's Not going to do it now.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
18. Shokcing it's not higher
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:39 PM
Sep 2024

He's openly fascist, supporting him means supporting zeizing power through force.

0rganism

(25,644 posts)
19. 1/7 of Americans favoring insurrection is much too high for "business as usual" governance
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:51 PM
Sep 2024

Even 1/100 would present a significant problem, but 1/7 is a disaster, especially when backed by substantial national networks of partisan agitprop media.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
20. A bunch of slaveholders tried that when Lincoln won.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:56 PM
Sep 2024

Much of the south is still trying to recover from that bit of hubris.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
22. Now it's treason. Before it was cheating. GOP can't win fair-and-square.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:25 PM
Sep 2024


1968 - Nixon-Agnew dealt with North Vietnam to sabotage Paris peace talks

1980 - Reagan-Bush dealt with Ayatollah hostage takers

1988 - Bush pardons Weinberger and other Iran-Contra traitors to avoid trial and exposing his own role

2000 - Bush-Cheney count on GOP-leaning Supreme Court to “win” Florida and, thus, US election

2016 - Trump calls on Russia for help to defeat Hillary Clinton

The record is clear: In Presidential election after Presidential election, Republicans get away with treason.

We hear, “It’s just politics.” Then we are told to, “Move on.” And the GOP gets away with it, again.

Thus, today, Treason is a regular part of life in today’s USA and The MAGA think it’s normal to be NAZI.
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