*****Debate Thread GO KAMALA!*****

[nolabear]

Boy has it been a day watching the lead up. Time for the real thing!

[FalloutShelter]

1. Checking in ...

Thanks Nola for getting the ball rolling.
GO KAMALA!

[nolabear]

4. Thanks. There might be two of us. Better than twenty though.

[Blue_Roses]

2. I am so freaking nervous...

but excited!

[lamp_shade]

3. Yours is the second debate thread.

[nolabear]

6. I saw that. I think we'll both thrive.

I’d kill it but we’re already rolling.

[Wednesdays]

5. Go Madame Vice President!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

7. Have an awesome debate, Kamala.

[nolabear]

8. Multiple threads I know. But I'm glad we're excited.

It’s 6:00. Do you know where your brain cells are?

[FalloutShelter]

11. LOL

Brains still inside my head for now.
Popcorn at the ready.

[underpants]

9. 🕯️ to the next 90 minutes of our existence listening to Trump.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

10. Go Kamala

[nolabear]

12. The rules:

And the world’s biggest clock.

GO KAMALA!!!

[NewHendoLib]

13. Thanks - and thanks to all on DU who watch and report.

I am watching the Red Sox. I no longer watch anything political.

So - thanks for the thread. May Kamala excel - and may tfg blow a gasket

[StarryNite]

14. He's NOT the president.

[bdamomma]

23. and will

never be again.

[evolves]

81. THANK YOU

[Self Esteem]

15. Harris walks up to Trump to shake his hand and introduce herself. Baller move.

[CentralMass]

64. I hope that she has hand sanitizer.

[nolabear]

16. She led in the handshake. Good move.

[Johnny2X2X]

17. She shook his hand

Went over and initiated it like it wasn’t planned.

[3catwoman3]

18. I'm sitting here in my Comma-La T-shirt...

...with a Mike's Hard Lemonade in hand.

[Ultraviolet Cat]

190. Me too!

,-la shirt and a glass of wine here in Michigan! We are not going back!

[Omnipresent]

19. Yes!

The Prosecutor verses Felon. I can take a wild guess, who will win.

[Boomerproud]

73. In a sane world...

[Baitball Blogger]

20. Kamala looks beautiful. He looks tired.

But she needs to relax.

[senseandsensibility]

21. First question a gotcha for Harris based on R talking points

Waiting to see if they do the same for cheato at any point tonight.

[onenote]

28. Not a good start for her. She needed to answer the damn question.

She should've started out talking about how the administration has brought the economy back from the hits it took because of Trump's mishandling of COVID.

Very disappointed in her start. Gave him an opening to spew his lies.

[onenote]

34. She recovered nicely in her rebuttal.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

113. Most politicians dont answer the questions. It didn't hurt Trump in the last debate.

[onenote]

117. Do you think she and Trump will be held to the same standard?

Is it fair? Of course not. In any event, she recovered from what I think was not the best opening response.

[MissB]

38. He never will directly answer a question

I’ll give her a pass.

[onenote]

41. I'm not judging her by him. Fortunately she recovered nicely.

[MissB]

44. I like her current contrast

(Not blaming you or taking issue with what you said)

[nolabear]

22. She's nervous. But on point.

And on the first attack.

[txwhitedove]

24. Kamala, great plans, but answer the question please.

[Javaman]

25. He looks sleepy and he sounds sick

[Javaman]

26. He looks sleepy and he sounds sick

[electric_blue68]

27. KamaLA!

🇺🇲

[Johnny2X2X]

30. Did he have a stroke?

His right eye is half shut.

[Johnny2X2X]

31. Did he have a stroke?

His right eye is half shut.

[MissB]

52. I think it's just the aging process,

The area above his eyes is losing elasticity.

[IzzaNuDay]

72. Dementia.

He repeats the same words: bad, horrible, worst…

[MissB]

83. Well yeah

I mean, he’s never been the brightest person.

Losing his mind doesn’t help.

[GB_RN]

196. Fun Medical Fact: That's Called Ptosis.

For those not familiar with the name, it’s pronounced like “toe-sis.” The “p” is silent. The root of the word is from the Ancient Greek word for falling.

Ptosis can be congenital, meaning it's present at birth, or acquired. It can also be caused by neurogenic, myogenic, aponeurotic, mechanical, or traumatic factors.

You can probably guess what neurogenic means.

Myogenic is muscle-related.

Aponeurotic isn’t what you might think based on the spelling. Aponeuroses are flat, sheet-like tendons that connect muscle to bone. There’s a large aponeurosis running from the forehead muscles, back across to the base of the skull. So, aponeurotic originated ptosis is tendon related.

🖖

[MissB]

198. Fascinating!

I’ve always assumed it’s just a fact of growing older. Thank you for the detailed explanation.

[GB_RN]

200. Absolutely!

Glad you appreciate it!

[Takket]

32. she should have just says "trump tariffs" not "trump sales tax"

because he just replied with "i'm doing a tariff not a sales tax" and people are too stupid to understand the difference

[bdamomma]

33. I have my

TV on mute covered half of the tv just watching Kamala face.

[CentralMass]

77. I cant stand watching or listening to him either.

[nolabear]

35. She's picking up steam! And he looks pissed.

[Marthe48]

36. Here's a link to PBS

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-live-harris-and-trump-debate-pbs-news-simulcast-of-abcs-2024-presidential-debate

[Wiz Imp]

68. Based on Politifacts very broad level analysis 15 minutes in

4 lies by Trump. 0 by Harris.

[Wiz Imp]

112. 5 more big lies from Trump according to Politifact

[soldierant]

213. Just 5?

I know I said "that's a lie" more than five times, and I didn't say it every time I thought it.

[Wiz Imp]

215. That was like only 15 minutes in

I didn't check politifact at the end to see how many they ended up with, but it was probably at least 2 to 3 dozen (They never touch a lot of "smaller" lies so their numbers are always artificially low). Anybody who counted each one of the individual lies probably got into the hundreds. Seth Abramson counted over 600 in the Biden debate.

[soldierant]

218. Well, and then there's the question

of do you count each repetition of one lie as a seperate lie, or not? I would. I'm sure some wouldn't.

[Wiz Imp]

219. I would

Outfits like Politifact don't. That's why I say the total count is in the hundreds because not only does he lie about a lot of different things (basically he lies about everything), but he repeats his biggest lies over and over and over and over....

[Javaman]

37. Put him immediately on the defensive he already lost nt

[Xavier Breath]

39. "I'm an open book."

[TommyT139]

76. If the book being referred to is Epstein's address book

[nolabear]

40. He's on the defensive. Good!

[bdamomma]

42. Too much Adderall

nt

[Javaman]

43. What a dower looking fuck nt

[Coexist]

45. She's getting warmed up now. Invoking his Alma mater. Nice

[CentralMass]

91. Whats Matter U ?

[GopherGal]

46. TSF tells a truth!

Man bites dog!

I do believe him that he's not gonna read Project 2025.

Don't believe for a second that he knows nothing about it, but he didn't read it. I'm sure they made a one-pager with cartoons for him.

[nolabear]

47. I love her expressions. She's going to the facts.

The Wharton School is on her side!

[electric_blue68]

48. Maybe he's a bit drugged as some suggest to keep him from going bonkers

[AngryOldDem]

49. Not a minute in and Trump was full-on nonsense.

Loved Kamala’s side-eye.

He’s starting to get angry. He’ll be foaming at the mouth by 10:15, if not sooner.

How many lies are we up to now? The Project 2025 denial was a howler, but I believe him when he says he didn’t read it, because he CAN’T read.

EDIT: Tariffs DO NOT WORK. They get passed down to US. Wharton Business School my ass.

[barbtries]

50. he's lying

so much i don't think i can keep watching. Kamala's speaking from reality and he's yelling from fantasy land.

every fucking word is a lie.

[agingdem]

103. Don't give up...he's shitting his diaper...

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Kamala has his number and the bloviating psychopath is too stupid to know he's on the defense...

[barbtries]

160. every word is a lie!

and nobody calls him out on it.

I have DU to keep me up to date. I do not doubt that she is winning this debate. but the frustration level of listening to him lie. it literally raises my BP and I just cannot. I even took a pill to get through it but it's not enough.

i'll definitely check out clips later.

[Javaman]

51. He's panicking nt

[Mossfern]

53. Tarrifs now

let's see how this is addressed.

[nolabear]

54. Oh this is fun so far.

Go for the tariffs!

[KewlKat]

55. Run spot run

[underpants]

56. Why is his head bigger on screen?

[Warpy]

214. Because he's a fathead

[StarryNite]

57. Her eyes are sparkling.

He looks like shit.

[AllyCat]

58. He doesn't understand what tariffs are.

[tinrobot]

59. I love that she mentioned Wharton

PRESS HIS BUTTONS!

[Montauk6]

60. RUN SPOT RUN???

Well, I see that Huggies Pride and Joy has been breaking open the DEEP literature.

[tinrobot]

65. MAN, WOMAN, RUN, SPOT, RUN, CAMERA, TV...

[Xavier Breath]

61. "I remember Bacon: The Donald Trump Years."

[Coexist]

62. She's good

[onandup]

63. Love her expression looking at him

[AngryOldDem]

70. It's like, "Are you hearing this shit?"

🤣

[nolabear]

66. Oh my. This is wonderful.

She knows so much more than he does about everything.

[a kennedy]

67. Start thread 2 please.....

[nolabear]

82. Will Do

[Javaman]

69. His drugs just ran out. She's getting under his skin. Nt

[calimary]

220. Now THERE'S an interesting observation!

Interesting because, hey, it just might be true! His increasingly out of control presentation, the fast-talking salesmanship, the hard sell that made me start to wonder - who are "these people" and "those people" he keeps referring to, that he injects into every description he comes up with about companies crumbling and businesses tanking and the U.S. doing the worst it's ever done...

It really started to leave a mark on me, gotta say.

You come away feeling like somebody's turned a hose up to high and pointed it straight at your face, from less than a foot's distance away. Or use a blow-dryer turned all the way up. The words don't mean anything. It's the power and the force of the thrust that's aimed straight into your face.

So I'm tempted to wonder - what does this do to each of their Presidential campaigns? Did the rest of the TV audience feel the same way I did? Did a majority of them either start turning toward Harris or did it confirm the turn toward Harris that they'd already talen.

[GReedDiamond]

71. I can't stop screaming obscenities at the tv when...

...orange motherfucker is spewing his lying bullshit.
Plus I cannot stand looking at his ugly stinkin anal sphincter face hole.
I don't think I can take much more.

[Johnny2X2X]

74. He is bombing now

He forgot his points and is now just rambling about nothing.

[BluenFLA]

75. She's winning this!!

Go knock him off!!!

[nolabear]

78. Throw everything at the wall, you fool.

He’s “weaving.”

[Diraven]

135. "It's the most brilliant thing I've ever seen"

Said his imaginary English professor friends

[sky_masterson]

79. I'd say Mrs Harris is killen it

Trump is spewing his rally shit.

[niyad]

154. Ms. Harris.

[sky_masterson]

159. I never get those titles right

What you said

[Coexist]

80. Why should we trust you. THANK YOU!

[ecstatic]

84. Is he going past his time??

[superpatriotman]

85. He's playing the hits

Lies, hyperbole, platitudes

[Javaman]

86. He's trying to use his rally bullshit lines. He sounds completely crazy nt

[underpants]

87. It was Gov. Northam of VIRGINIA

[cannabis_flower]

88. Trump has the best....

Most beautiful lies. And so many of them!

[elleng]

89. Thanks

'There is no state . . .'

Stated by ABC woman (forgot her name; happy to see she corrected tmp, re: abortion.)

[sky_masterson]

90. Did Trump Just defeat Medicare

Word salad central

[Javaman]

92. He's getting very close to grandpa Simpson level. Nt

[Xavier Breath]

93. Wow, a fact check.

[sky_masterson]

101. I'm actually stunned

An actual Fact Check/

[OneGrassRoot]

106. Right? 2 Black women correcting him...

his worst nightmare. 😂

[Johnny2X2X]

94. Aren't there time limits

He rambled forever.

[Javaman]

98. It does seem like he talks forever, but they are within the 2 minute nt

[scipan]

95. He brought up 'after birth abortion ". Moderator corrected.

Good.

[Takket]

96. OMG A MODERATOR JUST CORRECTED A LIE LIVE!!!!!!

Linday Davis THANK YOU!!!! I literally don't think i've ever seen that!!!!!!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

102. It was quick but shocking

[Takket]

107. "every legal scholar wanted it to go to the states"

FACT CHECK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

[AllyCat]

97. Hitting it out of the park on abortion! Go MVP!

[AngryOldDem]

99. Finally...Trump gets called out on a egregious lie.

And sure, Don…let’s Balkanize women’s health care. Sounds like a plan. 👍 Moron.

[nolabear]

100. Thread 2 is up

[CentralMass]

104. I have it muted with closed captioning on so that I don't have to listen to the swarmy fc'k.

[Johnny2X2X]

105. She is hammering him

This is great.

[Xavier Breath]

108. Ah yes, the famous abortion to student loans pivot.

[getagrip_already]

109. The moderators are nailing him.....

They are actually calling out his bullshit.

[underpants]

110. Trump is talking quick

[getagrip_already]

114. He is talking shit...

Ivf is fertilization?

Lol

He doesnt have a clue.

[underpants]

125. HE WENT TO DOGS

[Bettie]

111. I am playing D&D online with a group

so, I can hear from the other room. He sounds petulant and whiny.

[betsuni]

115. He's rattled and sniffing, getting angry. Ha.

[greatauntoftriplets]

116. She's doing brilliantly!

[bdamomma]

118. He's fucking Lying

over and over again!!!!!!!! Hate that fucking felon!!!

[onandup]

119. Unhinged

nm

[Mr.Bee]

120. We Need a LEADER

NOT a Liter!

[getagrip_already]

121. She got him! His small rallies.

Hes losing it.

[Mr.Bee]

122. I don't have a dog or a cat

because I ate 'em!

[Xavier Breath]

123. Shout out to Springfield.

He's fuming

[Takket]

124. she got him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my god as soon as she talked about crowd sizes i said "oh she just hit him where it hurts him most" and it WORKED he melted down on crowd sizes and actually went after the cat eating thing! COMPLETE MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AverageOldGuy]

126. Eating dogs and cats and lions and tigers and bears, oh my!!!

The Wizard has spoken!!

[Mr.Bee]

127. Just the fact that I released 5000 Taliban

has nothing to do with them over running Biden's evacuation!

[liberal N proud]

128. He is confident in his lies

Even when fact checked live, he repeats the lies.

[agalisgv]

129. You can almost see the steam coming off of Trump's head!

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[Jirel]

130. Brutal!

She is poking him into saying his craziest, angry “hits.” She’s making him so mad, he’s forcing the mods to aggressively fact check him. It’s a train straight to crazytown.

[Mr.Bee]

131. No the criminals

are running those countries

[getagrip_already]

132. He isnt even convincing a child at this point

He is shouting, that isnt going to work.

Shouting is losing.

[iluvtennis]

133. This man is lying his a** off. Now he is saying that the immigrants are eating pets in Springfield, OH. She

really rattled him when she said that people wlak out of his rallies.

[Mr.Bee]

134. Blame blame blame

I never did anything wrong! I'm perfect!

[WinstonSmith4740]

136. He's ranting.

But wow...an actual fact check on that damn "abortion after birth" bullshit.

[Mr.Bee]

139. The baby is taken after its born

and put on a barbecue grill, he wants a drumstick! She wants a wing!

[woodsprite]

137. They need to start turning his mic off. nt

[FlyingPiggy]

138. Bwahahahahaha!!! She made him freak out. Springfield is eating cats and dogs.

He sounds like he is on the defensive. His “attacks” are off the rails or just calling her names like “marxist”

[NJCher]

140. But hey!

He heard about it on TV!

[NJCher]

143. He just said

Kamala wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens who are in prison.

[TBF]

141. He said something about "taking a bullet to the head"

when he got riled up. That's quite a feat.

[Mr.Bee]

142. I'm a self-made man

I bankrupted many, many businesses, but it wasn't my fault!!

[Skvngr]

144. He's un-fuucking-hinged!

[Mr.Bee]

145. I'm waiting

for 'such a nasty woman!'

[proud patriot]

146. Holy Shit .. Trump on Roe

He lost Women BIG TIME ...

my jaw is on the floor

[Mr.Bee]

147. Ashley Babbit shouldn't have been climbing in that window!

[Dem4life1234]

150. She brought on her demise

Shouldn't have went in!

[NJCher]

148. he is angry

yelling

refusing to shut up when his time is up

[Aaeia]

149. Frothing

She's getting him frothing at the mouth by using his own tricks. He sounds angry demented.

YOU GO GIRL!!!!!

[Mr.Bee]

151. I wasn't responsible

everyone else's fault! I did nothing wrong!

[Mr.Bee]

152. Love her eyes!

Bright smart eyes vs beady little eyes!

[Mr.WeRP]

153. She is kicking his ass and he IS RATTLED!

[liberal N proud]

155. They keep letting him rehash is lies over and over

[Dem4life1234]

156. Fucking liar

Bloodbath did not mean energy

[Mr.Bee]

157. There aren't millions of people at the border

Every time they go to the border there's no one there!!

[NJCher]

158. David Muir is not doing his job

He should be muting him when he goes off like nutcase. David can't shut him up because trump is so angry and he's shouting. Just mute the damned mic!!

[Xavier Breath]

161. Good, he's doubling down on 2020.

[liberal N proud]

162. No he is denying that he lost again

[Mr.Bee]

163. Now he's debating David Muir!

Every American needs to see 'La Frontera With Pati Jinich'

[NJCher]

164. Muir asked him if he acknowledged losing the election

trump responded he was being sarcastic

muir said he didn't detect the sarcasm.

[Xavier Breath]

166. It was sooooo subtle we all missed it.

[Aaeia]

165. He's talking over the announcers & they're letting him!

[Mr.Bee]

167. Delousions of a MADMAN!

[Betty Boom]

168. She is magnificent

And she is getting under his skin. He is teetering on the edge of losing control.

And she’s prosecuting him like the prosecutor she is, and putting him on the defensive

[NJCher]

169. she said world leaders laugh at him!

whooooo, did that get him.

[RecoveringJournalist]

170. Praising Orban!

Praising Orban! WOW!

[NJCher]

172. hahahah

Orban hates her.

It's like he's in kindergarten.

[Mr.Bee]

171. No wars during Twump

John Fugelsang:
-Trump bombed Syria.
-Trump also bombed Yemen.
-Trump also bombed Somalia.
-Trump dropped the "mother of all bombs" on Afghanistan and bragged about it.
-Under Biden-Harris, fewer soldiers have died in combat than in any administration since Jimmy Carter.
-Trump assassinated a foreign military leader.
-In Iraq and Syria alone, Trump drone strikes killed an estimated 13,400 civilians, per Airwars.
-Trump INCREASED troop levels in Afghanistan by 25%.
-Trump bragged abt relaxing "rules of engagement" in Afghanistan, which nearly doubled civilian casualties.
-Trump freed 5k Taliban, including the terrorist now running Afghanistan.
-Trump pulled out of the INF Treaty.
-Trump pulled out of the Open Skies Treaty.
-Trump LOVES Putin's slaughter of Ukraine civilians, calling it "genius" and "savvy."

[Mr.Bee]

173. The Keystone Pipeline IS NOT FOR US!

It's for export!!

[iluvtennis]

174. Kamala said: Donald Trump was fired by 81 million people. Knock out punch.

this was in response tohime sayint the 60+ cases he took to court at end of the 2020 election were tossed becauseof a technicality. We all know that he had no evidence, nothing, nada, zilch.

Link to tweet

[waterwatcher123]

175. Trump comes across as an angry man (can hardly stand to listen to him speak).

[Cirsium]

176. Wow

She is demolishing him.

[johnnyfins]

177. There is a higher hand at play here

He is throwing it. What the hell?

[D23MIURG23]

179. He has no self control n/t

[Mr.Bee]

178. and it's all Ukraine's fault!

[Demobrat]

180. He's. Fucking. Nuts.

[Mr.Bee]

181. That. Never. Happened.

[RecoveringJournalist]

182. She's using his tactics

He's allowed to go off topic at will. She's doing the same, and doing it wisely.

[iluvtennis]

183. Michael Steele: Put a fork in the turkey!

Link to tweet

[JoetheShow]

186. From this app to God's ear.

[JoetheShow]

184. Is it me? He's coming accross to me as a raving lunatic.

I'm not impartial but he gets to lie, and lie and lie again. Fact checking an hour our two later will not influence the undecided who haven't been paying attention for months. Is he coming across as a raving lunatic or is it just my contempt for him?

[Mr.Bee]

185. No, he is!

Beady-eyed frog-face

Darn Old Trump

[Hahn_Bikey]

187. This.... (long pause)... former president LOL n/t

[MissB]

188. She's using the race question time very well

Very well done.

[Mr.Bee]

189. More Projection

[Mr.Bee]

191. America, Forget Celebrity

Who do you trust to have their fingers on the nuclear codes??

[Mr. Jinx]

192. Bravo, Madame Vice President.

This is how you beat a bully.

[Joinfortmill]

193. She did well. He lost his shit. The questions were better than I thought.

[Betty Boom]

194. "I have concepts of a plan"

😂😂😂😂😂

[Ruffhowse]

195. He has concepts of plans

OMG!!!! He said he only has "concepts of plans"!!! After 9 YEARS!!! Loser line of the night.

[Mr.Bee]

197. Trump is a mouth

connected to FOX NEWS

[SergeStorms]

204. The mouth is......

is directly connected to his ass, which is then connected to Fox Noise. Sorry about the correction, but I'm a stickler for accuracy. 😉

[SergeStorms]

199. My blood pressure is soaring.

Just hearing his stupid voice and looking at his stupid face drives me up a wall.

Am I imagining this, or are the moderators letting Asswart45 butt-in whenever he wants with his non--stop lies?

I don't know if I can take anymore of this.

[Mr.Bee]

202. No, you are not imagining

[SergeStorms]

206. Thank you.

Nice to know I'm not totally senile. Yet. 😀

[WinstonSmith4740]

209. We must have the same imagination about the moderators

I was just thinking the same thing...they seem to have no problem cutting her off, but are letting him interrupt and ramble.

[OAITW r.2.0]

201. I'd say Trump fucked himself and Kamala will be or next President.

[Mr.Bee]

205. I imagine

MAGA is cheering Trump and saying Harris is horrible.

[Ron Green]

203. What a terrible debate.

Did you hear the answers about the climate?

Me neither.

[Mr.Bee]

207. I don't think it was a debate

It was an argument.

[Mr.Bee]

208. Why haven't YOU done it?

You had four years. You watched TV and played golf and Blamed everyone else.
DarnOld J Dumpf

[DemonGoddess]

210. She TOASTED him

[johnnyfins]

211. Hopefully, she can just go to wherever she is staying

and Doug will tell her she won. Which she did. Hope it wasn't too stressful on her. JFC. The lies....

[hay rick]

212. Kamala by knockout.

Curious to see the spin needed to keep the "undecided voters" still sitting on the fence.

[SunSeeker]

216. She crushed that sack of pig shit!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

217. Hopefully we are at the stage in the movie where he starts clicking his balls and storytelling

Hopefully the independents are looking at each other and thinking WTF like in the Caine Mutiny