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edhopper

(37,395 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:39 PM Sep 2024

Can just ONE person in the Media point out that Roe v Wade was supported

By nearly 2/3 of Americans. And that no one wanted it "returned to the States".
Why is this lie uncontested.

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Ms. Toad

(38,713 posts)
1. I actually expected Harris to counter that one.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:40 PM
Sep 2024

(And, outside of debate context, I have heard media point it out.)

Ms. Toad

(38,713 posts)
15. Here's a couple for you.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:45 PM
Sep 2024

NPR, from the August news conference

117. “As you know, and I think it's when I look for 52 years, they wanted to bring abortion back to the states. They wanted to get rid of Roe v. Wade and that's Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, and everybody. Liberals, conservatives, everybody wanted it back in the states. And I did that.”

Everybody absolutely did not want that. It was actually quite unpopular for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe. And he again repeats that it has become less of an issue.


https://www.npr.org/2024/08/11/nx-s1-5070566/trump-news-conference

From today (re yesterday's debate):

“Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all wanted this issue [abortion] to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.”

— Trump

This is absurd. The docket for Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the case in which the right to abortion was overturned, is filled with briefs from legal scholars saying it would be a mistake to overturn decades of legal precedent.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/11/fact-check-presidential-debate-harris-trump/

Mad_Machine76

(24,971 posts)
16. She kinda did.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:03 PM
Sep 2024

By pointing out that no women want to bleed out in their car and that no 12-year old wants to carry their rapists’ baby. But I know of absolutely no consensus whatsoever about Roe being overturned. I was literally screaming at my TV when he kept saying that.

Ms. Toad

(38,713 posts)
18. She countered a lot,
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:14 PM
Sep 2024

But not his new mantra that he was only doing what everyone wanted.

I did a lot of screaming at my TV, too.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. I think most people have settled on their opinion on abortions, rightly or wrongly.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:47 PM
Sep 2024

Not sure anything will change anyone’s mind, at this point.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. Every network I watched last night and today is criticizing trump mercifully. Kind of
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:53 PM
Sep 2024

hard to cover everything trump lied about. And the 3 broadcast network’s late night shows mocked trump relentlessly.

Anyone watching knew trump was lying and distorting facts. His supporters don’t care.

Wonder Why

(7,121 posts)
11. He's always lying - whenever he opens his mouth and the media cares about news, particularly if it is controversial
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:15 PM
Sep 2024

as that's what brings in viewers and sells papers. Everyone expects him to lie. It's to boring for them to report it. Truth has nothing to do with reporting the "news".

Bev54

(13,462 posts)
9. There are a lot of young men that do not even think that the subject affects them
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:10 PM
Sep 2024

now or in the future. It needs to be front and centre and it needs to be women keeping it out front and centre until they "get it". There are many republican women who do not believe in abortion but have not thought of it as health care only the killing of a fetus. Yes it needs to be front and centre for them to hear what is actually happening around the country, to women who cannot get healthcare when they need it most. We may know all this but an awful lot of people have not paid attention to politics until now.

Bev54

(13,462 posts)
13. Yes she did and some are hearing it for the first time.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:18 PM
Sep 2024

And some still have not heard it at all. It needs to be front and centre, there are still minds to change.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,286 posts)
6. It drove me crazy last night.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:53 PM
Sep 2024

And I hope the campaign spends the next few days talking a lot about it to refute that horrible fucking lie.

ms liberty

(11,284 posts)
8. That's something that irks me as well.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:56 PM
Sep 2024

The only ones agitating for Roe to end were the right wing religious extremists. That's not even a majority of Christians, much less a majority of the nation. Roe always enjoyed majority support across the nation as a whole.

ScratchCat

(2,750 posts)
14. This here
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:26 PM
Sep 2024

Prior to Dobbs, there was a saying that you could take a "private" poll in any average church on Sunday morning and more than 50% would be for legal abortion and support RvW. There has been this complete revision of history by the media and the RW since Dobbs.

I've said this before: Most people reject the notion that ANY level of government has legitimate jurisdiction over a woman's womb unless there is a viable child in there. I've never understood why anyone believes government should have such a power, and I have never heard a convincing argument as to why they should. Any argument against abortion comes down to a religious one(soul at conception argument) and therefore imposing such a belief violates the First Amendment.

agingdem

(8,914 posts)
10. and can one person in the media condemn
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 01:14 PM
Sep 2024

repulsive psycho baby Trump for "she puts out"...???

Greybnk48

(10,735 posts)
17. Chris Hayes brought that up on MSNBC panel post debate and said that
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 02:14 PM
Sep 2024

Trump crossed a dangerous line with voters by saying R v Wade was not widely supported. He and Lawrence O'Donnell were both saying that the one thing candidates should NEVER lie about is what voters think. It always backfires.

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