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wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:24 PM Sep 2024

WTF is wrong with MSNBC?

They're talking to still undecided voters and going on and on about how Kamala Harris still has a long way to go to win voters over, yada, yada. Were they watching the same debate they showed last night? Were they watching their own victory celebration afterward?

I know...I shouldn't have turned my TV on before Nicole came on.

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WTF is wrong with MSNBC? (Original Post) wryter2000 Sep 2024 OP
Daytime MSNBC eats dogs. dchill Sep 2024 #1
Don't forget cats! MustBeTheBooz Sep 2024 #34
They're reading script from two day old news. lpbk2713 Sep 2024 #2
Yeah, I was going to start an OP about how they're STILL giving Kamala advice senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #3
These people aren't going to vote. Squaredeal Sep 2024 #4
It's a waste of time discussing undecided voters in Sept TheProle Sep 2024 #15
You are right. Those people are not going to vote. Polly Hennessey Sep 2024 #27
Even if Kamala wasn't a top rate candidate, which she of course is... bluesbassman Sep 2024 #5
That's pretty much what one of the pundits said. wryter2000 Sep 2024 #7
It's ludicrous. I've been engaged in some FB convos with friends of friends. bluesbassman Sep 2024 #11
Pounding the table..... SupportSanity Sep 2024 #23
MSNBC showing their OCD problem as usual. DURHAM D Sep 2024 #6
The only way Mz Pip Sep 2024 #8
I just think these are "pretend" sensible republican who can't quite publicly say they are voting for TFG. Claustrum Sep 2024 #13
When they say this stuff they make it true MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #9
Every instant poll taken the night of the debate SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #14
Ah yes, "the sigh" TheProle Sep 2024 #16
It's good we DownriverDem Sep 2024 #33
I didn't know that MadameButterfly Sep 2024 #48
I cannot trust myself to watch before Nicole-- I risk destroying my tv in my desire to smack the condescending smirk hlthe2b Sep 2024 #10
Well, screw these undecided voters. Personally I don't think that they give a crap about voting or anything like SWBTATTReg Sep 2024 #12
Their objective is to keep you glued to their screen. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #17
Katy Turd Show. spanone Sep 2024 #18
I won't watch daytime MSNBC Picaro Sep 2024 #19
Me either BonnieJW Sep 2024 #39
Daytime MSNBC is trash and I turn to FSTV instead kimbutgar Sep 2024 #20
I cannot stand those 2! BigDemVoter Sep 2024 #22
Yup me too proud patriot Sep 2024 #24
Goddamn. They just cannot let it go. BigDemVoter Sep 2024 #21
Some of thosr undecided last night were so Figarosmom Sep 2024 #25
Katy Tur claudette Sep 2024 #26
Their debate coverage was excellent, & likewise of the DNC onetexan Sep 2024 #28
Yep. Right there with you on that. calimary Sep 2024 #44
Except for Velshi on weekend, Codifer Sep 2024 #29
MAGA DownriverDem Sep 2024 #30
It is shit cable? MSNBC is only our friend for the third shift. Even then pwb Sep 2024 #31
So called journalists which are members of shithole's cult.................. Lovie777 Sep 2024 #32
A lot of the undecided voters seem to be like a lot of the magats ToxMarz Sep 2024 #35
I had to turn it off. Schmice3 Sep 2024 #36
Finding voters who are still undecided at this point is simply an exercise in GoodRaisin Sep 2024 #37
People whoare undecided after last night Warpy Sep 2024 #38
Well, they are providing a service BaronChocula Sep 2024 #40
One of the fallacies I think they make is duncang Sep 2024 #41
money money money, it all about money. Close race more people watching. Higher ratings means higher the ad rate krawhitham Sep 2024 #42
Re: undecided voters Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #43
LOVE this Sedaris quote! calimary Sep 2024 #45
So true! Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #46
I have to admit Greg_In_SF Sep 2024 #47

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
3. Yeah, I was going to start an OP about how they're STILL giving Kamala advice
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:29 PM
Sep 2024

AFTER she wiped the floor with him last night. Oh well, at this point, they know exactly what they're doing.

Squaredeal

(733 posts)
4. These people aren't going to vote.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:30 PM
Sep 2024

Maybe if someone paid them, cash in hand, like Trump did when he announced his intention to run for President.
Its a waste of time discussing them.

TheProle

(3,980 posts)
15. It's a waste of time discussing undecided voters in Sept
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:22 PM
Sep 2024

of a close election?

What IS worthy of discussion?

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
5. Even if Kamala wasn't a top rate candidate, which she of course is...
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:31 PM
Sep 2024

After that absolute shit show the convicted felon put on last night, anyone who is still “undecided” is either lying or isn’t actually going to vote at all.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
7. That's pretty much what one of the pundits said.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sep 2024

After that, I wouldn't want to admit I'm going to vote for him.

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
11. It's ludicrous. I've been engaged in some FB convos with friends of friends.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sep 2024

They chime in when one of my friends posts a meme congratulating Kamala or laughing at TSF. Normally these defenses of him are the usual “how great he is” kind of things, but after last night the cult has really taken their cue from him and are attacking her in the most sick and disgusting ways, and are just parroting the same old hackneyed lies and tropes. It’s pathetic really because these people presumably watched the same debate we all did and to divorce yourself from reality that hard has to cause some damage to one’s psyche.

SupportSanity

(1,582 posts)
23. Pounding the table.....
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:10 PM
Sep 2024

There is an old adage among lawyers that says, "If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

Mz Pip

(28,454 posts)
8. The only way
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:35 PM
Sep 2024

anyone could be undecided is if they’ve lived in a cave for the past 9 years with no contact with the outside world.

Personally, I think these folks just like the extra attention being “undecided “ brings.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
13. I just think these are "pretend" sensible republican who can't quite publicly say they are voting for TFG.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:06 PM
Sep 2024

So they do this song and dance about they are "undecided". But democrats can never really reach them. Only TFG can lose their vote. The best we can hope for is for these people to stay home.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
9. When they say this stuff they make it true
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:40 PM
Sep 2024

i recall missing the Gore/Bush debate where everyone said Gore botched it by shaking his head a certain way when Bush spoke.

I later saw a tape of the debate, and Gore was terrific. Someone picked at something of minor importance, made a big deal of it, and the news took off. Most people rated that debate on the media coverage.

I expect as Kamala practiced her expression for how to react to Trump's lies on the split screen she was not only thinking of Biden, but of the Bush-Gore debate. Shake your head, but not too much. Be relaxed and smile a lot. Every nuance matters because a Dem, especially a Black woman, has to be perfect.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
14. Every instant poll taken the night of the debate
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:10 PM
Sep 2024

had Gore winning that debate. Then the corporate media edited together every unflattering facial expression Gore made and played on a loop for days.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
48. I didn't know that
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 05:29 PM
Sep 2024

By the time I heard about it, it was the media story. Good to know. The people were fine with it, the media made it a problem.

Media is mostly owned by conservatives now, probably true then too.

hlthe2b

(113,968 posts)
10. I cannot trust myself to watch before Nicole-- I risk destroying my tv in my desire to smack the condescending smirk
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:42 PM
Sep 2024

off of Katy Tur(d)'s face. She can just be so insufferable.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
12. Well, screw these undecided voters. Personally I don't think that they give a crap about voting or anything like
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sep 2024

that for the Country, whereas the rest of us do care.

A long way to go to win voters over? How in the hell are you coming up w/ this? She's been part of Joe Biden's admin since day 1, and now of a sudden you're coming up w/ this crap?

They are just making up headlines to get more clicks online. And they're just plain lazy, they don't want to create or dig into new headlines.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
17. Their objective is to keep you glued to their screen.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:26 PM
Sep 2024

And the recipe they use is to induce stress anxiety in their viewers.

Turn it off.

Picaro

(2,393 posts)
19. I won't watch daytime MSNBC
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:45 PM
Sep 2024

This is the same tactic as going an finding the most rednecked diner in some rural town that doesn't have enough population to merit any notice. But these "journalists" seek out the idiots--because somehow moron's opinions matter the most.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
20. Daytime MSNBC is trash and I turn to FSTV instead
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 04:51 PM
Sep 2024

The station during the Morning and early afternoon hours are fox lite. Between Andrea and Katy blah! 🤮

BigDemVoter

(4,700 posts)
21. Goddamn. They just cannot let it go.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:01 PM
Sep 2024

Read Jenn Rubin in the WaPo. . . That will make you feel better!

Figarosmom

(11,989 posts)
25. Some of thosr undecided last night were so
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:27 PM
Sep 2024

Wishy washy I almost wished the guy would have asked them what the hell else yhey needed. And the guy who said he would be homeless should have Ben told to stop voting against his interests when he said he was a conservative.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
28. Their debate coverage was excellent, & likewise of the DNC
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:32 PM
Sep 2024

Only one i cant stand is andrea mitchell. Needs. Retirement. Now.

calimary

(90,020 posts)
44. Yep. Right there with you on that.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:24 PM
Sep 2024

I wish her a happy, creative, and comfortable retirement.

Sheesh - she could write a TERRIFIC memoir with her decades of experience and, well, who does she NOT know? And BLAMM! She’d be back on TV - not just on NBC or MSNBC, but ALL of ‘em! ALL the networks and syndicators. ALL of ‘em. She’d be more famous than ever!

Codifer

(1,205 posts)
29. Except for Velshi on weekend,
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:34 PM
Sep 2024

morning on MSNBC is a waste of mind.

I usually hunt up an old 1950's Grade B science fiction and wait for Nicole.

But I did see a very few minutes of andrea mitchell/katy tur. Just enough to be disgusted.

I just cannot watch any more conversations with "undecided" ignorant assholes.

If last nights debate was not clear enough to see the difference.... may gawd just fuck them.

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
30. MAGA
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:35 PM
Sep 2024

trump has the rich, religious nuts and racists. That's why the race is close. Kamala did great. Let's see how the latest polls trend.

pwb

(12,669 posts)
31. It is shit cable? MSNBC is only our friend for the third shift. Even then
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:35 PM
Sep 2024

they say things like you mentioned. They should learn how to do things like running a debate from the Networks.

Lovie777

(22,979 posts)
32. So called journalists which are members of shithole's cult..................
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:37 PM
Sep 2024

stinks up the day shows until my time at 1pm when enlighten Wallace comes on and other sane journalists thereafter.

shithole's female cult members like Tur and Mitchell are insane.

ToxMarz

(2,929 posts)
35. A lot of the undecided voters seem to be like a lot of the magats
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:56 PM
Sep 2024

Being an 'undecided voter' has become a part of their identity. It's the only reason anyone wants to talk to them and find out what THEY think. They have 'friends' now in other undecided voters with something to talk about. They ain't letting go, it's not about the election or democracy. It's selfishness or loneliness or importance or something else.

Schmice3

(304 posts)
36. I had to turn it off.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 05:58 PM
Sep 2024

The mouthbreathers they were interviewing kept saying they needed more information. All they wanted was to be on TV making their carefully considered pronouncements public. Sorry, but what a disappointment of a segment.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
37. Finding voters who are still undecided at this point is simply an exercise in
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 06:05 PM
Sep 2024

finding stupid people. And the people they found certainly met that criteria. These people are essentially vegetables.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
38. People whoare undecided after last night
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 06:05 PM
Sep 2024

don't know and don't want to know and there is nothing either TFG or Harris can do about that. They don't decide until the ballot is in front of them and there is nothing rational about their decision process.

It's how democracy works, the dunderheads and the cautiously deliberative all necessary to the process. Brring the massive amount of propaganda we saw from Putin and his allies in 2016, the stystem mostly works.

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
40. Well, they are providing a service
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 06:20 PM
Sep 2024

even if that service is demonstrating how many people out there are utterly stupid, disconnected, and willing to continue to give the White Man's Pass to a brash and loud talking convicted felon with no shred of competence. And I say that with all objectivity.

duncang

(3,767 posts)
41. One of the fallacies I think they make is
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:06 PM
Sep 2024

Asking if someone is an independent or similar question without asking who they are voting for first. Not registering doesn’t mean anything. All it means is you didn’t register for a party. Of all the people considered an independent in polls I wonder how many actually are.

krawhitham

(5,072 posts)
42. money money money, it all about money. Close race more people watching. Higher ratings means higher the ad rate
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:10 PM
Sep 2024
 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
43. Re: undecided voters
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:18 PM
Sep 2024

This is a David Sedaris quote from 2020 that is still relevant:
I look at these people and can't quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention? To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it? To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.

calimary

(90,020 posts)
45. LOVE this Sedaris quote!
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 10:40 PM
Sep 2024

Amazing, though, how many people still ask for -or clamor for, the shit with broken glass.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
47. I have to admit
Thu Sep 12, 2024, 01:04 AM
Sep 2024

I'm a little worried. Kamala was up 2.0% in the Real Clear Politics national poll averages a week ago. Now it's only 1.1%.

WTF?!?!

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