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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOne thing bothered me in last night's debate.
The mods referred to tsf as, "the President", or "Mr. President". He is not the President. He was afforded more respect than he deserves.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Is there some protocol? He is the ex - the loser.
Could just call him by that, Mr. Loser (R)
Lonestarblue
(13,524 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,442 posts)They refer to former politicians and officers by the last title or rank they held before leaving office.
Most of the time, I'm good with it. Call a retired general "General." Call a former Senator "Senator."
In trump's case, it grates on my nerves, too.
Walleye
(45,095 posts)Traildogbob
(13,075 posts)Title should never be attached to an insurrectionist ass hole traitor. Period.
Cha
(319,609 posts)they're kidding like the Fraud, Felon, Rapist, Insurrectionist Never happened..
Metaphorical
(2,654 posts)I think that moment in the debate laid to rest ANY question there. Afterwards, I noticed that the moderators began demoting him to former president and even Mr. Trump at one point.
Technically, yes, he should be referred to as President Trump when addressed formally - this is a common courtesy to all past presidents, even ones as generally bad as Trump.
LauraInLA
(2,248 posts)Formally Addressing the Former President
When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is Mr. LastName. (President LastName or Mr. President are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, its appropriate to say, former President LastName. This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as Governor Tom Smith, while youd introduce an ex-governor as former Governor Jim Bell.
Informally Addressing the Former President
Now, lets look a little closer. In an informal setting (such as a private lunch), its acceptable to use the title the ex-official held. Here, you could refer to former President Jimmy Carter as either President Carter or Mr. Carter. In reality, many people ignore this convention and refer to former Presidents as "President Last Name" when they are in settings where nearly everyone would afford them the honor of the title. Technically, this is still incorrect but there are enough former Presidents allowing this that it has become a somewhat common mistake.
https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states
I dont love it. But if theyd said, Former President Trump, every time they addressed him in the debate, it would have taken up even more time. And I think the form is changing over time I hear, President Obama, often.
bucolic_frolic
(55,437 posts)Mr. Ambassador, Madame Secretary
In the third person they are referred to as former, to avoid confusion with current incumbents
TommieMommy
(2,976 posts)milestogo
(23,139 posts)or Sore Loserman, depending on one's accent.
GopherGal
(2,927 posts)yelling (well, loudly thinking) "FORMER President Trump! By God, if you don't know who the current president is, how in the hell do you get the job moderating this debate?"
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)trump a POS, but why make it that obvious. Mods let him talk, and he hanged himself.
Cha
(319,609 posts)David Muir that called him "President"... I said he's Not president.
CCExile
(524 posts)"Fuck Face Trump" would be appropriate in all situations.
StarryNite
(12,148 posts)"Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago". Heaven forbid if President Biden slips up on names though.
S/V Loner
(9,556 posts)I can just see him doing that.
obamanut2012
(29,431 posts)lame54
(39,894 posts)Yet their side is pissed about the blue background
It was rigged
marble falls
(72,173 posts)... President is partially to blame for some degree of support he has - Q keeps saying he's the real President and Biden is a stand in.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)After he steamrolled them and spoke over his allotted time,they responded with, "Thank you President Trump".