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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOK, this is going to sound weird...
But I can't shake the feeling he's gonna run. Before the election. He can stay in denial all he wants, but I think he knows deep down inside that he's toast. He won't allow himself to be put in jail, and he's going to lose badly enough that even he will realize he won't be able to get enough people to storm the capital again. Plus the Democrats already have the lawyers in place to deal with his bullshit deniers. His plane has ju-u-ust enough range to get him from New York to Hungary, but he'd be landing on fumes.
I can dream, can't I?
leftieNanner
(16,159 posts)But who would want him? He's of no use out of the White House.
thebigidea
(13,576 posts)No use out of the White House? Where do people get this stuff?
A former PRESIDENT in Russia would be a huge, huge propaganda win for Putin. He'd be even more under his control and be extremely useful to spread disinformation for years to come.
leftieNanner
(16,159 posts)Good point.
Thanks.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)stopdiggin
(15,462 posts)what a 'tool' the man is - in every sense of the word. 'Followers' (and there probably would be a handful) - would be routinely mocked and derided on all fronts. And the one thing these low functioning toadstools really hate .. ? Is being laughed at!
Bring it on Pootie!
dweller
(28,408 posts)But then hell be whisked away faster than a bin Laden in 2011
✌🏻
underpants
(196,489 posts)Aside from the public front, that was to his soul. Losing any election let alone, as POTUS, has to hurt bit for him it was much deeper. It cut to his most fundamental conditioning.
elocs
(24,486 posts)He is a first time convicted felon as well as an old man. We may fantasize as much as we like about his going to jail, but reality is a harsh master.
malaise
(296,076 posts)If he doesnt drop out and disappear or just disappea, he is going to receive the beating he has needed for the last 78 years on Election Day.
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)I'll sneak him to the airport, heck, I'll take his document filled luggage too (after all, garland doesn't seem to think it's worth looking in locked closets for them, you know, locks are hard work!).
Skittles
(171,701 posts)he feeds off his pathetic MAGAt cult, he has to be here
Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)tanyev
(49,284 posts)His only value at this point to the foreign governments he so admires and his enabling sycophants is his potential to become president again. Even if he found a landing spot, hes not capable of managing setting up a new life in a new country. Melanias quite happy to be back in NYC. I dont see any of his kids dropping their lives here to go with him, unless they end up with legal problems, too.
Wednesdays
(22,593 posts)You honestly believe he's given back all the classified documents?
tanyev
(49,284 posts)Theres a cost benefit analysis to be done of how awful it would be to put up with him and his demands vs. the value of whatever information he might still have.
yourout
(8,820 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,876 posts)Wednesdays
(22,593 posts)He won't need his plane if Saudi Arabia sends theirs. Who's going to stop them?
And he won't bolt until the election returns come in. But then yeah, he may very well try to flee. My money is on one of the countries on the Arabian Peninsula (no extradition treaties with those countries AND plenty of classified documents for him to share, in order to buy his freedom).
WinstonSmith4740
(3,436 posts)Saudi Arabia makes more sense...I was thinking Hungary because that's as far as his plane will go. But if they send one of theirs, it also eliminates him having to spend money on trying to keep his plane flying and fueled up.
tinrobot
(12,061 posts)usonian
(25,299 posts)They're creepy and they're kooky,
Mysterious and spooky,
They're altogether ooky,
The maga nominees.
They've got a proposition
That's not of your volition
THE SPANISH INQUISITION
The maga nominees
[snap twice]
(Addicted)
[snap twice]
(Conflicted)
[snap twice]
(Convicted)
Oh, Donald!
You're gonna need a cohort
To sneak you through an airport
As agents seize your passport
When you decide to flee.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)can anybody shed light? Seriously, i'm curious how he can pull this off. Maybe Viktor Orban w give him shelter in Hungary.
RidinWithHarris
(790 posts)...why run when he can falsely claim victory anyway, rake in loads of cash based on that pretense, and hope to rile up a coup?
I don't totally rule out Trump fleeing at some point, but, if so, that would be at least a year or two away.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)he's been getting bailed out but if the merry-go-round stops, he's got to have a plan B,C,D...
RidinWithHarris
(790 posts)...before the election. His winning is their best shot at a pay-off.
No government action to get money out of Trump will move faster than continental drift. Look at how many years have gone by without Alex Jones paying a cent to Sandy Hook parents.
Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)I think Trump believes he has the election locked up. Maybe it's a holdover from when Biden was the nominee and he was leading by a sizable margin in the polls. But regardless, why would he think he's toast? Right now, polls are showing a toss-up and the two previous elections he was in, he overperformed the polls by a pretty decent margin.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Self Esteem
(2,248 posts)But I think the last time Trump ever thought he was toast was probably in 2016. Since? That surprise win has made him believe he can do anything - and win still.
LuvLoogie
(8,814 posts)He then for sure loses all of his properties and freedom. He'll just appeal until he dies, which will probably be at Mar-A-Lago in about 10 years.
obnoxiousdrunk
(3,115 posts)He is not going anywhere.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)It would almost be worth it.
Naaaaaaah
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)But hell appeal appeal appeal for years and millions of dollars.
While 30% of US fights the world for him.
Cartoonist
(7,579 posts)If he doesn't turn around, I am sure they will have orders to fire. He will not be allowed to turn over any secrets.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,436 posts)Threaten me with a good time! Seriously...I'd pay to watch that.
struggle4progress
(126,147 posts)at Sheremetyevo Airport ... Donald Trump!"