I am looking at Morning Joe, what the hell does Mica mean about a woman being President of the US?

[akbacchus_BC]

Doesn't Mica know that there are lots of powerful women who are/were Prime Minsters or Presidents. The ones that come to mind are the Bangladesh PM, Dominica Eugenia Charles and the most powerful woman PM in Barbados is Mia Mottley. Women are strong leaders. There are a few more like Indira Gandhi, etc. Mica was against SOS Clinton, now she is trying to be nice!

[no_hypocrisy]

1. I'd add Cleopatra (Egypt) and

Liliʻuokalani (Hawaii)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili%CA%BBuokalani

[akbacchus_BC]

6. Thanks That's why I typed etc., there are lots more women leaders. Hilary would have been a fantastic

President but Comey sabotaged her. I hope he lives to regret his decision to bring up the stupid emails. When little men cannot get their way with powerful women, they stoop really low.

[dsc]

2. there have been very few directly elected women leaders of countries

PMs are elected by the legislators not the people. Iceland did have a directly elected woman President as have Chile and Argentina. I am sure there have been a few others but they are quite rare.

[akbacchus_BC]

8. I differ, women PMs or Presidents are democratically elected, eg, New Zealand, Barbados, etc. The system is

proportional representation. The Party that gets the most votes gets elected and if a female is the Leader of the Party, she is elected PM or President.

[dsc]

12. the key word is party

not person. PM votes are party based while Presidents are often not.

[akbacchus_BC]

17. I differ again. British Commonwealth countries elect PMs, the ones who leave the Commonwealth, elect Presidents, eg

Guyana. All other countries elect Presidents.

[Swede]

28. Canada is a Commonwealth country. On paper we elect the MP for our ridings.

In reality we elect the Prime Minister we want.

[Walleye]

3. I remember when Hillary was running in the primaries, and Mika's father said voting for her was like voting for

Mamie Eisenhower. I always thought he was a pretty smart guy until then.

[akbacchus_BC]

10. Both Joe and Mika were against Hillary. I am not implying they caused her to lose. There was outside interference

plus trump had a cult on his side. It was a sad day in American history when Hillary lost. I could never forget that night. I cried along with all the young people who were at her campaign headquarters,

[Walleye]

27. I'm a feminist, when Hillary lost, I felt my whole life had been for nothing

Now I’m so glad we will get a second chance at this, while I’m still alive, to break this fucking glass ceiling once and for all

[allegorical oracle]

36. A technicality, but Clinton won the popular vote, lost the E College. nt

[dmr]

42. I cried my heart out, too. I was in total disbelief.

It too me a long time to get over it, and in some ways, I don't think I have gotten over it. I mean, I've moved on, but with TFG sleeping in her White House, and screwing everything up while grifting the hell out of what he could, it was an extremely difficult time. I hate TFG.

And the bastard just doesn't stop!

Haitians eating pets! Good night, Mary!

[tetedur]

4. Golda Meir , Margaret Thatcher, Corazon Aquino, Angela Merkel

[akbacchus_BC]

11. I love Angela Merkel. Golda Meir not so much. Aquino was not effective. As for Thatcher, she was a despicable

British PM. The ice queen.

[tetedur]

20. I guess my point was not that I supported or admired these women presidents or prime ministers

My point was that there are women presidents and prime ministers.

[akbacchus_BC]

30. We are not looking for lame leaders anymore. This is the 2ist century, Trump is dogshit. VP Harris will be a

a strong leader whom the world needs right now. Who on earth wants a wannabe loser who lies non stop and blames immigrants. The pos don't want to debate a strong woman a second time. He lost the first time and the dipshit cannot face her again. The moderators at the debate between him and Hillary, allowed him to bully her. She would have been a great President.

[hlthe2b]

5. I guess the obvious--Golda Meir--has been lost to history?

[akbacchus_BC]

13. Golda Meir was mediocre. She could have made a difference to help the Palestinians get Statehood.

Once Palestine is not a State and the current slaughtering of innocent people continues, there will be no peace.

[hlthe2b]

33. YOUR topic was female heads of state--your commentary is not germaine to your original post which offered no

value judgement.



Apparently only WOMEN heads of state must be followed in discussion this way. Good gawd.

[SocialDemocrat61]

7. MEka hated Clinton and loved Trump in the 16 election

Until Trump refused to give her and Joe jobs in his administration. Now they are on a revenge tour.

[akbacchus_BC]

14. You hit the nail on the head, I was disgusted with both of them. They did think trump would have given them some kind

of recognition and when he rebuffed them, they changed their tunes. They are bottom feeders in my estimation.

[SocialDemocrat61]

16. The story I heard

which I can’t confirm, is that they went to Mar a Lago on New Year’s Eve to ask Trump for jobs. Joe wanted a cabinet position and MEka wanted to be press Secretary. Trump said no and they left in a huff.

[akbacchus_BC]

21. I cannot remember the details but the fact that they were trumpers on MSNBC, they should have been fired. Yes,

they thought trump would hire them to good positions, little did they know that with trump, you have a short shelf life. Dumb idiots. Am surprised they still have a show on MSNBC. Just goes to show that even the progressive networks are not progressive after all.

[Cosmocat]

23. yep

a blatant example of high level media people being compromised by their own self interests.

Mike VERY clearly was doing her best Andrea Mitchell routine on Hill, constantly negging her, and both of the kissing up to Trump until they fell out with him, then then completely changed their tunes.

[bullimiami]

9. Her and Joe are pretty dumb. Don't know why they have a show.

[akbacchus_BC]

15. I can say the same for most of the pundits on CNN and MSNBC. I dont look at CNN anymore.

I love Rachell Maddow and Laurence O'Donnell. Cant stand Tur. I can tolerate Stephanie Rule but of late, she talks over her guests and that is rude,

[bullimiami]

19. Im about down to Lawrence only.

[akbacchus_BC]

22. Me too re Lawrence. Rachel is better than Wagner in my opinion.

[yorkster]

25. Far better. Give me Ali Velshi for that slot.

[akbacchus_BC]

31. I second your pick. I like him too. Ari Melber is a waste of time. nt

[Think. Again.]

18. Yeah, TV has to appeal to the masses to survive...

....so it's going to perpetuate whatever group mindset is currently pervasive, and obviously any group mindset is going to represent the lowest common denominator. So it's a great barometer of popular thought, but does nothing to enhance or enlighten that mass mindset.

Luckily, as you mentioned, we have always had great women leaders to inspire, protect, and nurture various societies, in spite of what the current American popular opinion about women leaders might be, and I think it's clear that opinion will soon be changing with the success of our first woman President.

[akbacchus_BC]

24. I so agree with you. However, as parents we need to let our children know that TV is fallacy. Not everything you see

on TV is true. The news networks have a way of spinning the truth and as adults, we have to be smart to decipher truth from lies.

If trump were to get back in power, the world would be devastated. He will be hobnobbing with dictators and he will get more love love letters from Jong, Putin, Netanyahu, etc. Ukraine and Palestine, NATO, democracy, freedom, women's & LGBT rights, racial equality, medicare, etc. will be at peril. Try your best to knock on doors to get people registered to vote. We are living in precarious times. We missed our first woman President Hillary, let's hope we get one this time. She is what America needs and also the world.

[Think. Again.]

29. Absolutely!

We're at an extremely important pivotal moment for humanity in many, many ways. Harris must win.

And as parents, our first step should always be to be truthful to our children and help them face reality straight on, so just explain to them the reality that tv companies are set up to sell advertising space to the most possible viewers, and they'll be able to see for themselves that what is on tv is nothing more than what they would call "clickbait".

Actual information will be found elsewhere.

[akbacchus_BC]

32. I don't want to think that VP Harris will lose. For the sake of humanity and the world, she must win. I wish all the

people in the world can vote for her. Our democracy is at state and if the menace were to win, can you imagine what project 2025 would mean. It would be a sick group of people taking charge of the greatest country on earth.

I know the fallacy of TV, that's why I don't understand why parents allow their children unlimited TV time. TV is just lies and parents need to start parenting better. Having said that, TV is the children comfort when the parents have to work two or three jobs tp make ends meet. That is an abomination in developed countries.

[Think. Again.]

34. Yes, but for-profit tv isn't the only way to keep kids comfortably occupied.

It's just the most common way.

[yorkster]

26. Did Mika say something about there not

being many women in power or that they weren't effective? I missed the segment.

[akbacchus_BC]

35. I am paraphrasing, Mika wasn't sure if a woman can be elected as President of the US.

It's about time a woman gets elected so that old and tired men can stop dictating what women can or cannot do with their own bodies and taking away lots of other freedoms from the American people.

[yorkster]

38. Thx.

[Voltaire2]

37. turn it off. It is bad for your mental health.

[dem4decades]

39. That's not the show I watched today. Mika did nothing but champion Kamala and Clinton and the

pride she had in the fact that a woman could be elected president.

This thread should be taken down.

[Boomerproud]

40. When I was in high school back in the 70s (yikes) we had a running discussion

in History class whether a Black man or a woman would ever be elected President. Every girl in class was convinced a woman would never be elected. When Hillary lost to a man who had no experience, and no character, I knew we were right. I pray times have changed.

[yorkster]

41. You might want to rethink this post. Just read

article on Daily Kos in Trending Stories. It was number 12 posted by davidkc.
Title was the following. -

Mika: "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard!"when folks ask if we're ready for a woman president.

A full clip from this am was included. I think you may have heard Mika quoting someone and thought the words were her own.
I apologize for not linking to the site. Not savvy tech wise. The article was posted at
10:47 this am.