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America Is Tired Of This Shit (Original Post) DinahMoeHum Sep 2024 OP
Let's put him there!!!!!!!!!!!!! bdamomma Sep 2024 #1
Let's insist he be tried and sentenced Mr.Bee Sep 2024 #15
Very interesting post. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 2024 #17
He knows 'we' can't wait to see him behind bars, elleng Sep 2024 #2
I think "we" includes a fair number of his supporters, who are similarly disposed but in an awkward situation. Harker Sep 2024 #8
THIS malaise Sep 2024 #3
We resent having to argue over and debate things that wiggs Sep 2024 #4
If so, we really need to get busy when it comes to changing... keep_left Sep 2024 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #7
And do something about SCOTUS birdographer Sep 2024 #13
It seems like the current barrage of horror has an opportunity hidden inside. love_katz Sep 2024 #16
Well said. And this is not new. But this time around. It is very,very different. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 2024 #18
Agreed! surfered Sep 2024 #6
Ok,folks,does anyone recall BattleRow Sep 2024 #9
1977-1981 lastlib Sep 2024 #10
Can you imagine the vile rhetoric BattleRow Sep 2024 #11
Both parent and child. I remember.TRE45ON. ArmedLiberal24 Sep 2024 #21
and even bdamomma Sep 2024 #23
JFK. calimary Sep 2024 #29
K & R Emile Sep 2024 #12
This needs to be spread birdographer Sep 2024 #14
His voice grates on me, too. calimary Sep 2024 #30
I'm tired of his hate and division kimbutgar Sep 2024 #19
Exactly 👍😁 TommieMommy Sep 2024 #20
THEN QUIT POSTING ABOUT HIM! Brenda Sep 2024 #22
Amen Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #24
Somewhere between thirty and forty percent SidneyR Sep 2024 #25
Unfortunately, that's why we can't stay silent. calimary Sep 2024 #31
We are also sick of his moron creepy cult followers ThoughtCriminal Sep 2024 #26
visited a small town in wi today + saw idiot signs. pansypoo53219 Sep 2024 #27
I am starting to think many on here will never tire of him either HagathaCrispy Sep 2024 #28

bdamomma

(68,579 posts)
1. Let's put him there!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 04:59 PM
Sep 2024

We did it in 2020 we can do it again.

When we fight WE WIN!!!!!!!

Mr.Bee

(848 posts)
15. Let's insist he be tried and sentenced
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:54 PM
Sep 2024

like any of the rest of us. No white collar resorts, no golf clubs, no Mar-a-Lago ankle braclet!
I want him in solitary confinement. No cellphone, no communication with other inmates or the outside world, and no visiting hours or visitors from Fox Newsmax wanting interviews!!!

treason is NOT okay if Republicans do it!

 

ArmedLiberal24

(54 posts)
17. Very interesting post.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:13 PM
Sep 2024

Treason is not okay for anyone to commit regardless of any affiliation. TRE45ON.

elleng

(139,790 posts)
2. He knows 'we' can't wait to see him behind bars,
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 05:11 PM
Sep 2024

which is one of the main reasons he's behaving as he is.

Harker

(16,363 posts)
8. I think "we" includes a fair number of his supporters, who are similarly disposed but in an awkward situation.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 05:55 PM
Sep 2024

Public expression vs. private thought.

wiggs

(8,256 posts)
4. We resent having to argue over and debate things that
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 05:29 PM
Sep 2024

haven't come up before in politics and especially the WH, such as

...if a president commits a crime while in office can he be prosecuted?

...what are the boundaries for immunity while in office and afterward? If a president does it, is it legal?

...if a president takes a bribe or makes money off of his/her position is it illegal? Are we ignoring the emoluments clause now?

...is assaulting a women with your hand rape, sexual assault, or never happened?

...is blackmailing a foreign leader by withholding assistance unless he finds dirt on your opponent legal, illegal, worthy of impeachment, or 'perfect'?

...can a candidate promise favorable treatment for industry leaders in exchange for 1 billion in campaign contributions?

...can a president interfere with the processes of elections as long as he does it from the oval office?

...is political lying fair game if it justifies a win?

...is it fair game to enlist the help of foreign countries to help catapult the propaganda?

...Ok for president's children to get favors from foreign countries that otherwise wouldn't happen?

...what does it mean when a president meets with a foreign adversary with no other american observer?

Why do we have to endure many prosecutions, investigations, every level of court interventions, analysis...just because one malignant narcissist is given power and decides he can do anything he wants?

The above is a partial list






keep_left

(2,935 posts)
5. If so, we really need to get busy when it comes to changing...
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 05:50 PM
Sep 2024

...the law of the land so that some future President can't do the same damage that was done by Trump and his cronies. We discovered that too much of our system is based on the assumption that our representatives--particularly those in the Executive Branch--will generally act in good faith. Nothing could be further from the truth when it comes to Donald Trump and company--furthermore, we found out (the hard way) that it's also not true for about a third of the electorate who are unrepentant MAGA chuds.

We did have some early warnings: Nixon, Iran-Contra, Iraq-gate, and any number of lesser scandals. The problem is that we never prosecuted those cases to the fullest extent of the law, and no one really even got punished outside of a few "limited hangout" bad actors. And even most of those bad actors--like Ollie North--got pardoned anyway. For things to change, there have to be real consequences for crimes committed. They can't just keep getting away with it.

Response to keep_left (Reply #5)

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
13. And do something about SCOTUS
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:46 PM
Sep 2024

which is now set up to support any sort of nonsense the next Donnie chooses to perpetrate. We have to gain the house and Senate as well as WH and fix that! Also the EC, which overrules the popular vote. One person, one vote, the one with the most votes wins, period.

love_katz

(3,094 posts)
16. It seems like the current barrage of horror has an opportunity hidden inside.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:56 PM
Sep 2024

As a country, it has been too easy to ignore the injustice built into our legal system and the overall running of our society.

I'm not a person who believes that trope about how "everything happens for a reason", but as you have pointed out, the wealthy and powerful have been given a pass for their assaults on our legal system and our ideals for how our system should be run.

Basically, if you have enough money to hire a bunch of lawyers, then you can get away with almost anything. And the uneducated rubes will support the rich because doing that supports their multitude of bigotries.

Too many people are ignorant of the real history of our country, so they are not equipped to fight back against injustice.

In other words, we are being forced to acknowledge the rot in our legal and economic systems and are called upon to do the actual hard, dirty, and miserable work of fixing it.

The return of the hatefulness and cruelty of the Confederacy has ripped the concealing cover off and revealed the ugly reality.

 

ArmedLiberal24

(54 posts)
18. Well said. And this is not new. But this time around. It is very,very different.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:26 PM
Sep 2024

For example.At the very end of October this year.It will be. Quiet. Still. Scary. TRE45ON.

BattleRow

(1,673 posts)
11. Can you imagine the vile rhetoric
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:35 PM
Sep 2024

Trump spews coming out of either of those statesmens' mouths?

 

ArmedLiberal24

(54 posts)
21. Both parent and child. I remember.TRE45ON.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:38 PM
Sep 2024

President Carter. WE LOVE YOU JIMMY !!! GenX

President Clinton.

President Gore we all knew he won!!!

President Obama

President Clinton we all know SHE won!!!

President Biden

President HArris

bdamomma

(68,579 posts)
23. and even
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:41 PM
Sep 2024

the SC. The Russian propaganda machine has been their agenda on us, and they found a "useful idiot" that played right into their hands.

calimary

(86,708 posts)
29. JFK.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:12 PM
Sep 2024

I can still remember my mom adding “…you know he’s a very good Catholic” whenever the talk turned to Kennedy.

I was a little kid back then, but I swear, I remember thinking “what does that have to do with anything?”

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
14. This needs to be spread
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:48 PM
Sep 2024

Too long for a billboard but would make a great full-page ad. I'd contribute to such a thing, particularly in a magazine.

And yes, that horrible voice. Cannot stand it.

kimbutgar

(25,360 posts)
19. I'm tired of his hate and division
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:29 PM
Sep 2024

it's all about him and me the poor martyr wah ! wah!

Kamala is let's help and love one another and move forward

SidneyR

(147 posts)
25. Somewhere between thirty and forty percent
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 07:55 PM
Sep 2024

of Americans are not tired of this crap; they love it. They're all about white supremacy and screwing over the libruls. They prefer fascism over democracy.

calimary

(86,708 posts)
31. Unfortunately, that's why we can't stay silent.
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 01:25 PM
Sep 2024

Ordinarily it’d be good advice - to stop talking about him. But when he’s out there every day, sucking oxygen out of the room, OR there are hoards of fans, news people, people who loathe him and say so out loud, editorialists - on BOTH sides, and nonstop visuals all over TV, we can’t just stay silent. Not even out of protest.

We HAVE TO speak up. We HAVE TO push back. We HAVE TO remain vigilant. We HAVE TO be as ever-present as they are. If there’s no response, THAT send a message, too. Usually the wrong message.

 

HagathaCrispy

(154 posts)
28. I am starting to think many on here will never tire of him either
Sun Sep 15, 2024, 06:38 AM
Sep 2024

Every day for the past 9 years there has been a headline similiar to these, all not true and the omg guess what he said last night, etc.

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