Ryan Routh had an extensive criminal record but he had no problem obtaining an AK-47-Voted for Trump in 2016

[kpete]

Ryan Wesley Routh. Not Black. Not trans. Not an immigrant. Not a Democrat. Ant-vax. History of Mental Illness and incidents with firearms. Had an assault rifle anyway. Was nowhere near Trump, didn't fire any shots, Secret Service shot at him.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Social media posts purported to belong to Routh indicate he was a believer in COVID-19 conspiracy theories, and he had posted that he had voted for Trump in 2016 but was disappointed with him after the fact, expressing support for Tulsi Gabbard in various posts.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/trump-florida-suspect-ryan-wesley-routh/

[WarGamer]

1. He registered as a DEMOCRAT in March 2024... posted "Democracy is on the Ballot" this year... ActBlue donor

Why are people blowing smoke?

https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/trump-assassination-attempt-update-latest-news-2xpldkjcl

[onenote]

4. Yes. And, reportedly he donated repeatedly to ActBlue in 2019 and 2020

https://www.themainewire.com/2024/09/what-we-know-about-ryan-wesley-routh-2nd-would-be-trump-assassin/

Facts are facts.

[WarGamer]

5. Facts can be unpopular, too...

[soandso]

17. Those tweets

lol! Tweeted to Musk to please sell him a rocket to kill Putin and left his phone number.

He had other tweets about saving the Haiku stairs in Hawaii. Never heard of those so looked them up:

https://voyagefox.net/haiku-stairs-in-hawaii/

Anyway, he obviously fancies himself some kind of great crusader out to defend the oppressed and save the world and he's willing die doing it.

[Kingofalldems]

6. Not what the OP is about.

OP poses the question why did REPUBLICANS make it easy to obtain military style weapons. I see no one blowing smoke, OP is factual. Not sure what your point is exactly.

I can play the ALL CAPS card too.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Guess what.

I ain't your buddy.

[Skittles]

74. good luck with that one

[Skittles]

75. repukes do everything they can to ensure any fucking nutcase can get a gun

then they get upset ONLY when they become the targets

FUCK THEM ALL

[stopdiggin]

8. because there are plenty of people more than ready to peddle whatever nonsense

they feel is advantageous? (regardless of what relation it bears to the truth?)

[WarGamer]

9. +1000 nt

[Kingofalldems]

10. The OP didn't. Looks like all facets were posted.

[stopdiggin]

16. "Not a Democrat"

except that he registered as such - and apparently made multiple contributions.
The individual had set up what appears to be a 'nest' with a sight line - and yet here (OP) rendered 'nowhere near Trump'.
So, no - I don't think quite all the facets made its way in to the OP.

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[Quixote1818]

38. Most recent reports show he wasn't registered as a Dem but "Unaffiliated"

Voter records show he participated in the Democratic primary in Guilford County as an unaffiliated voter. Neighbors reported that his family relocated to Hawaii in May.

https://apnews.com/live/trump-shooting-west-palm-beach-updates

[WarGamer]

52. the bumper sticker?

[LeftInTX]

59. His truck in Hawaii has a Biden Harris sticker.

[Kingofalldems]

60. So? He voted for Trump in 2016.

[soandso]

12. Pic of him in Ukraine

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ryan-routh-81a22611_in-dc-and-kyiv-to-provide-soldiers-for-the-activity-7046566411040686080-kYNY

[Silent Type]

30. +1. This guy isn't going to be as easy to explain as the 22-year old incel a month ago.

He’s clearly deranged, likely a gun nut, etc., but optics aren’t good. Our response in next few days could determine political impact. But, I’m just guessing, who knows?

[LeftInTX]

61. Yes. He's nuts, nuts, nuts. Delusions of grandeur. That's the problem.

His values do not align with the party's. He's free to vote for whomever. But this is not something the party would ever support.

He wasn't involved with the party. (Voting the primary and a few donations does not mean that he's involved with the party)

He's just an incoherent load mouth

There is a Biden Harris bumper sticker on his vehicle in this AP article.

Man accused of trying to kill Trump wrote a book urging Iran to assassinate the ex-president
https://apnews.com/article/trump-assassination-attempt-suspect-ukraine-f76ed09f256f6bd21727a10901d92af7

[Quixote1818]

36. AP is now saying he was registerd as unaffiliated

Voter registration records show he registered as an unaffiliated voter in North Carolina in 2012, most recently voting in-person during the state’s Democratic Party primary in March 2024.

https://apnews.com/live/trump-shooting-west-palm-beach-updates


Snip: Voter records show he participated in the Democratic primary in Guilford County as an unaffiliated voter. Neighbors reported that his family relocated to Hawaii in May.

https://www.wral.com/story/suspect-linked-to-trump-assassination-attempt-has-ties-to-north-carolina-a-t/21626901/

[PatrickforB]

46. And don't forget the right wing is also blowing back on this guy's attempt by accusing Ukraine

of being in some way involved. Which I doubt. But that is also out there.

[ForgedCrank]

47. What I

keep asking when this crap happens is why does it matter? Only unstable people do this kind of crap.
I find it inappropriate at all levels to use the incident as some sort of gotcha, regardless of what an unstable asshole has regarding political affiliations. He's crazy. Yet we see this same cycle of crap here, in the media, everywhere.

** General statement, not directed at any particular poster **

[W_HAMILTON]

48. Asked Nikki Haley to add Vivek Ramaswamy as her VP to create a "winning ticket"

Now, I know there some alleged Democrats that just love them some Republicans -- -- but I would say most Democrats would not be advocating Republicans to join forces to create a "winning ticket" against Democrats, no?

[W_HAMILTON]

62. I don't know where your photo is from, but I know the tweet is from his account.

And it's clear that the only thing we know for sure about him is that (1) he voted for Trump before and (2) he dislikes Trump now, which the same can be said for a majority of Americans.

[WarGamer]

63. that's his truck in front of his home in HI... with his companies logo.

I think we can both agree that the guy is nuts...

[DiamondShark]

72. Why is Donald Trump Jr retweeting that picture?

[John Shaft]

58. So what?

What are you trying to say? Is that supposed to tell us something? What are YOU trying to tell us? All your comments seem very keen on pointing out that he was a Democrat . . . what does this mean to you and why is it so important to you for him to be a Democrat?

[captain queeg]

2. Not exactly a hardened criminal.

If I read it properly he was arrested for having a concealed weapon but it was a misdemeanor. Sounds like an average trumper to me, assasination attempt is kind of a stretch. But really, it’s good to see previous Trump supporters turn against him. Not to the point of wanting to kill him though.

[SupportSanity]

3. Fumbled assasinations. If Putin were in charge, Trump would've already fallen from a very high window by now.

This is all for show.

Oh, and about selling AK-47s to crazy/convicted people. Let's not forget. That IS the market for them.

[roamer65]

13. Two RW nutbags so far have shot at Dump who want to start a civil war.

Pretty obvious their goals.

[Polybius]

15. Hard to call this one just a RW nut

Last edited Sun Sep 15, 2024, 10:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Apparently, he donated to Tulsi Gabbard, Andrew Yang, Tom Steyer, Beto O'Rourke, and Elizabeth Warren. He voted for Trump in 2016, but not 2020.

[Captain Zero]

27. please proof read your title

[Polybius]

33. Thanks

Edited.

[mahina]

31. 2016?

[Polybius]

34. Opps

Edited.

[W_HAMILTON]

50. Do you know many Democrats advocating Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy joining forces to create a "winning ticket..."

...which would mean a winning ticket against Democrats?

[Polybius]

55. I said "just a RW nut"

So he is a RW nut, but not just a RW nut.

[W_HAMILTON]

64. He's a Trump voter that apparently got tired of Trump's shit like the rest of us and...

...then looked to everyone and everything that could beat Trump. When Biden/Harris was an option, he chose to promote Haley/Ramaswamy. If he ended up supporting Biden/Harris, it sounds like he did so after all his Republican options failed and they were his last resort.

[Polybius]

70. Odd that he would support Tom Steyer, Beto O'Rourke, and Elizabeth Warren though

Republicans detest those three.

[DiamondShark]

73. Yes, very odd.

I don't see them on Open Secrets, or the FEC site.

[W_HAMILTON]

77. What counts as "support" here and where are you getting your information from?

I would count support as voting for someone in an election, and I'm pretty sure he hasn't lived in a state where he could vote for any of those three in an election.

And while I don't remember if I've ever donated to a Republican campaign, I have voted in a Republican primary (to support a Republican that voted to impeach Trump vs his MAGA opponent) and I am most certainly not a Republican and I would hope no one would ever label me as such because they misconstrued my efforts to DEFEAT the worst Republicans as me supporting them.

We know that he previously voted for Trump and was promoting a "winning ticket" of Haley/Ramaswamy earlier this year -- both things someone that wants Democrats to win in the General Election would not do.

[uponit7771]

53. He supported Vivek and Haley and Gabbard, that's RW ...

[Polybius]

56. And also Andrew Yang, Tom Steyer, Beto O'Rourke, and Elizabeth Warren

Those aren't RW. That's why I said he's not "just" a RW nut.

[Vogon_Glory]

14. If Routh wasn't really a Republican or a Democrat,

I guess this makes him a “None of the above”?

[iemanja]

18. AK-47s are illegal in Florida, if it's fully automated

https://www.findlaw.com/state/florida-law/florida-gun-control-laws.html#:~:text=Machine%20Gun%20Laws,are%20permitted%20under%20federal%20law.

Some states allow AK-47s modified to be semi-automatic


We'll have to wait to find out more about where he got his gun.

[Fla_Democrat]

19. Well, not really

It says in the link....

Florida prohibits any person from owning or possessing a machine gun that is, or may readily be made, operable, except for antique firearms or firearms that are permitted under federal law.

So if you have a tax stamp they are legal to own. But from the pictures I have seen, it doesn't look like an AK-47, more like a sporterized SKS. It appears to have a monte carlo stock and a scope mount.

Though the photos seem to be a bit grainy.

[iemanja]

21. Oh

I can't tell one gun from another by looking at it. I was just going based on the name and knowing AK-47s to be machine guns.

[Fla_Democrat]

23. No worries

It's not like firearms is a popular subject around here.

I just did a bit of research back in the day when I was getting a few NFA items. No selective fire (yet), but a SBR or so with some cans,

But, laws do change (seems like every time they have a session, some stupid slips out) , so it's good to keep on top of it.

[Kaleva]

24. Probably more accurate to say it's an AK-47 style rifle

A gun that very much looks like a select fire AK-47.

Like the AR-15. Colt is the only manufacturer that makes the AR-15 but there are dozens of other companies that make look -a -likes.

[iemanja]

25. Gotcha

thanks

[yagotme]

45. AR-15 patent is expired, AFAIK, ANYONE can make an "AR-15" now.

The perp's rifle is more likely a modified SKS, as the stock is straighter, no "pistol grip" feature. Photo is not really ideal for better identification, but from what I can tell, it's an SKS with an after market stock, and most likely a "duck-bill" 30 rd magazine.

[iemanja]

22. Do you think

this might have been something he picked up in the Ukraine. That is if he actually ever went?

[Fla_Democrat]

28. If it's what I think it is.

No, not something worth dragging back from overseas. Unless he had a special connection to getting it. i.e. war trophy, belonged to a good friend, etc.

He probably picked it up off of gun broker, or a yard sale. Not like they are high end, highly sought after rifles. My guess is somebody bought one during the "assault weapon ban" back in the 90's. Bubba'd it up, and left it to a family member in passing.

Again, that's if it's an SKS. I would like to see a better picture, It could be a dragunov, but I highly doubt it.

[iemanja]

29. Okay, Thanks!

[Fla_Democrat]

37. You're welcome.

[yagotme]

43. Grainy photo is grainy.

But that is NOT an AK-style grip. In line, with slight "pistol grip" curve. My bet is on the SKS, as the front looks like it, and the SKS has that type of stock, though that one is an after market one. The magazine is probably a "duck-bill" type, or it is one of the rarer modified SKS's that take AK mags. Too short for a Drag, those things are almost 5 feet long, with flash suppressor, and would be a longer (front to back) magazine.

[617Blue]

41. Your RW trolling is pretty obvious as well.

[BannonsLiver]

66. About god damn time somebody said it.

[617Blue]

68. They're all over the place.

Had my eye in that one for a while.

[BannonsLiver]

69. Yep. A couple more I've been tracking as well.

One is doing a multi year con but their slip is starting to show.

[W_HAMILTON]

51. Might want to shorten that timeline given that he was supporting a Haley/Ramaswamy ticket just a few months ago...

[Quixote1818]

32. Correction. I had posted he was a Democrat but latest reports show he was registered as "unaffiliated"

https://apnews.com/live/trump-shooting-west-palm-beach-updates

Voter records show he participated in the Democratic primary in Guilford County as an unaffiliated voter. Neighbors reported that his family relocated to Hawaii in May.

[Johonny]

42. Many people's political leanings

Don't fall into made for TV political spectrums.

This one at least can tell us eventually. Not that we will likely understand that

[Deuxcents]

35. Talking heads have guests on that are outraged at the SS for not protecting TSF against two attempted

Assignations in 62 days. The assailant never got a shot off because the agent did his job. Not one person is outraged about the common denominator: Guns.

[Blue Owl]

39. Kind of Gary Busey-like

[tulipsandroses]

40. I was surprised that gun violence/ easy access to assault weapons did not come up in the last debate. If there is a 2nd

debate, it absolutely must be discussed.

[yagotme]

44. That particular weapon, as best as I can see,

would not have fallen under either the '94 ban or the proposed '23 ban. Whatever they are deciding to call it, the base firearm appears to be an SKS, which did not fall under either ban. The magazine itself, yes, but not the firearm. If he had actually been convicted of a felony punishable by over a year in prison prior, he would not have been able to legally own ANY firearm, anyway. So, there's that.

[republianmushroom]

49. It only takes money.

[al bupp]

57. A warning to foreign soldiers in Ukraine about Ryan Routh

Twitter repost:

Link to tweet

Original screenshot (for those not on Twitter):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXmaKS0XoAA5xfI?format=jpg&name=large

[BannonsLiver]

65. Folks be wary of posters here who are deeply invested in making this guy an enthusiastic Democrat

Posters who complain bitterly about things like our military being prepared for a Russian incursion in Alaska or posters who consistently frame things in the most Doomy way possible for Dems every time they post.

[Torchlight]

67. Yeah, when someone tells me they voted for Mr. trump,

supports Haley and Gabbard, and holds anti-vaxx views, I'm going to presume a conservative man.



And if I'm wrong, well... just as when I cursed the weather forecast last week, the taste of mustard never changed and the weather didn't care.

[yourout]

76. I want to know why he was camped out for 12 hours in the Florida heat where Trump was not scheduled to be.