Is anyone else embarrassed today?

[sarisataka]

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or is it just me

ETA> for those who have missed most of the posts on DU today, I am referring to how quickly many have latched onto or added to conspiracy theories about the apparent attempt to assassinate Trump today. Not to mention a blase attitude that some political assassinations may be tolerable.

[obamanut2012]

1. About what

[sarisataka]

9. Seeing how quickly some of our fellows

can act in the same manner that we say we despise when others do the same.

[Fla_Democrat]

12. Nah, I'm used to it

[LauraInLA]

15. Wait, I'm just now trying to catch up. Can you tell me what I missed?

[sarisataka]

18. Here is a start

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19466070
Just read many of the replies

[LauraInLA]

50. Oh, wow. Thank you. I'm relatively new, and I thought DU was beyond this ;(.

[onenote]

16. +1

Sadly, I've gotten used to it, so I'm not embarrassed, just disappointed, particularly in the posts that seem to call for arresting or banning Trump and Vance. Echoes of "lock her up" that we hated and should still hate.

[Arne]

2. I could go skinny dipping, Would that count?

[Maru Kitteh]

3. Why? What did you do?

[Silent Type]

4. I think today was more serious than many. And, the impact is not over, good or bad.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

5. What now...

[Autumn]

11. If I'm reading the room right the poster is embarrassed by what other people are doing.

However I have been known to be wrong once or twice.

[BeyondGeography]

6. Republicans should be embarrassed

Between banning assault weapons, age restrictions on sales of said weapons and universal background checks chances are very high these two attempts on Dear Leader would not have happened.

We want everyone to be safer. Republicans fight us tooth-and-nail on laws that would protect all Americans. This is the world they asked for, not us.

[arlyellowdog]

7. Yes,

I mean, come on, “I hate Taylor Swift” by a successor to George Washington, Lincoln, and FDR. Embarrassing.

[Autumn]

8. What did you do to embarrass yourself?

[sarisataka]

10. I am embarrassed

on behalf of those who seem to feel no shame in hypocrisy

[Autumn]

14. One thing I have learned in life that has stood me well is to never be embarrassed

by the actions of other people.

[Kaleva]

13. One poster said it was really bad here after 9/11

So this is apparently nothing new .

[niyad]

22. Yes, because 9/11 and today are so very similar!

[Kaleva]

29. Admin probably came up with this rule shortly after

"Why we have this rule: Democrats are supposed to be part of the "reality-based community." Some amount of skepticism toward powerful institutions is healthy and appropriate, but that doesn't mean every paranoid fantasy is true. Posts about mass shootings being "false flag" operations, 9/11 being a controlled demolition, no airplane at the Pentagon, chemtrails, black helicopters, the Illuminati, or other nonsense make us all look like fools. This website may have the word "underground" in our name, but we are not extreme fringe."

And how we stay a "reality-based community" is that we form our opinions based on verified facts and not on what conveniently fits our world view.

[niyad]

35. sighhhhhhhh

[Mme. Defarge]

17. Huh?

[NewHendoLib]

19. I've had a great day - didn't do a thing remotely embarrassing.

[Ocelot II]

20. What about?

[sarisataka]

23. Start here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19466070
Just read many of the replies

[Ocelot II]

26. Maybe some people should be embarrassed but I'm not.

I didn't participate in that particular fucktangle.

[niyad]

21. You know, not everyone has been glued to DU today, so I am guessing

that there are many who have absolutely no clue or context for why we need to be embarrassed. We usually like to be given a reason, or at least a tiny clue, for why we should self-flagellate. Talk about embarrassing!

[sarisataka]

24. Start here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19466070
Just read many of the replies

[niyad]

25. It would have been helpful had you included that in your OP, which was the

point of my response. Having to scroll down to post 24 to discover what the point of the OP was is NOT helpful.

[TBF]

27. This is like "vague-booking" on Facebook -

if you have something to say it would be more helpful if you'd just put it in the OP. This may be ok in the lounge, but in general discussion I don't like to guess what folks are trying to say.

[sarisataka]

28. I did answer in a response to the first reply

but perhaps I am too subtle sometimes

[niyad]

38. Not subtle, completely opaque for those who were not on DU all day.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

57. Always put some context in OPs in all forums. Right at the start. Readers read text not minds. . . . . nt

[TBF]

65. yes, just put in the OP :)

It's not like your comment was bad. You had a legitimate thing to say - folks just don't want to hunt for it.

[Scrivener7]

62. It appears to be a response to responses to a response

that the poster found objectionable.

[Picaro]

30. I've been embarrassed by my country for decades

I used to travel internationally until about 2003 for business. I used to just love explaining the faux folksy, oddly inarticulate George Dubya Bush to Europeans.

[OldBaldy1701E]

58. Yep.

We have plenty of things to be proud of in this nation. But, we also have plenty to be embarrassed about.

[usonian]

31. By THIS?

I snapped it myself off twitler.
First-hand info.

[sarisataka]

33. That isn't embarrassing, it is criminal

However I do not believe Musk is a DU member

[usonian]

36. The question was open.

Point made if it was specific to DU.
“The power of an open question” where did I hear that before?

I’ve had an OP deleted due to a CT.
Unfortunately, it can’t be proven right until documents are de-classified in 25 years.
Live long enough and read history, you find that some conspiracies were indeed true, such as sabotaging peace talks for political points, faked attacks on ships and so on.

Not defending any of this. I backed off speculation, because the shit going down and the speculation on it are all distraction. Intentional distraction.

I posted this Friday, and it got zero rec’s and replies.

https://democraticunderground.com/10113496

[rockbluff botanist]

32. Brought it on himself

[madaboutharry]

34. There were posts today that I thought were inappropriate.

Maybe I’m the outsider. I just don't think the incident today was something to be sarcastic about or make jokes about.

[LeftInTX]

41. Me neither. That Routh guy is a nut job beyond belief.

[madaboutharry]

46. And he had an automatic weapon.

I find that beyond comprehension. A person with a lengthy criminal record and obvious mental instability still was able to possess guns.

There is so much wrong with that.

[Brainfodder]

37. Tolerance after 9 years is thin at best with this grifting shit? And I mean tolerance of him NOT being in prison.

When 600+ people are paid Russian Ops and this isn't being THE TOP STORY?

Our media is for status quo which made them rich media companies in the first place.
Due a reckoning? HELL YES!


Conspiracy theories are lame silly hypotenuses at best?

[canetoad]

39. Nope

Certainly not embarrassed, but I enjoy cryptic crosswords fwiw.

[Metaphorical]

40. To be blunt

This is a man who has incited violence in order to overturn an election, who has done everything in his power to stoke the fires, and who feels absolutely no remorse in using stochastic violence for his own end. The only reason that he is running again for president is so that he can skip out of multiple fraud, rape, and treason charges and the only reason he has a hope in hell of winning is because he's promising every billionaire out there the keys to the kingdom if he wins, promises that he has no more intent to keep than any other promise he's made.

I do not believe in assassination. It indicates the breakdown of democracy and the rule of law. Having said that, if someone succeeds in taking him out, I won't lose a lot of sleep.

[Bev54]

42. For attempts at Trump "The call is coming from inside the house"

[albacore]

43. There's irony here.. The KING of stochastic terrorism gets some blowback on his rhetoric..

..only it comes from an unexpected place and directed at him.
I take no joy in that.
I realize that all the whackjobs out there aren't RW whackjobs...
all the lone-wolves aren't necessarily MAGAs.
Since we don't seem to be able to keep military-grade weapons out of the hands of the whackjobs, should we just accept that there will be attempts on all the candidates?
Should we...in trump's own words..."just get over it"?

[edisdead]

44. I am embarrassed for your post.

[LizBeth]

45. No. He lies. Just today Vance said on the news they will lie for the media.

The initial information was two shooters away from club shot at each other. He put out a vague post. No.... I am not. That is what liars create.

[VegasVet]

47. No.

[Jack Valentino]

48. I would only be embarrassed if I had claimed that I was an NRA member

who believed in '2nd amendment solutions' and had any skill with a rifle while believing in the Constitution....




I have never been an NRA member.

[Polybius]

49. Conspiracy theorists are loons, whether Right or Left

Except for aliens, that one's true.

[applegrove]

51. Didn't see any of that in my travels today. I hope people know that

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if Trump had been killed today, 37% of Americans would be crazed and dangerous for the rest of their lives. Better that they see their hero age out and die of old age. There is enough violence in the USA. A dead candidate would be horrific.

[ForgedCrank]

52. Yes, for

many reasons.
So much hate is promoted, and I'm very disappointed that our side is participating in it. We are expected to be better. There is no world where promoting hated and hyperbole is acceptable, let alone shooting at people. I'm disappointed at the mood surrounding all of this. It's not Ok just because the target was Trump. It's evil.
And to think we mock Q and Alex Jones when they come up with the nutty stuff that they do.

[LeftInTX]

53. Considering that the AP got a shot of his home in Hawaii today. The bumper sticker on his work truck isn't worn out.

Google maps is from 2019, but you can see the house and truck.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/NDmTeZdfbDWbn8me8

_


Now, I blame all of this on the fact that this guy is certified nuts, but the RW is gonna have a field day with this

[Raine]

54. Yes. nt

[LeftInTX]

55. Then, there's this thread.

Please check in if you could not give a shit whether the newest "attempt" on Trump's life was legit or orchestrated.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19466283


I really don't think this is a joking matter, but no one seems worried about it.

Someone says: As long as tRump is the alleged target, it's all good.

I guess they don't give a shit if we lose the election???
Close your eyes and "don't give a shit"...whatever...not a winning strategy.

[Sunsky]

56. I'm not nt

[John Shaft]

59. My fainting couch is in the shop

Heavens to Betsy, how will I ever make it?!!??!??!1111

[mucholderthandirt]

60. I'm just having some fun, expressing my thoughts, as allowed here. Don't like it? Put me on ignore. Thanks. Bye.

[sarisataka]

64. In over a dozen years I have not touched the ignore button once

But you are welcome to use yours

[kcr]

61. Not even a little bit

[Scrivener7]

63. Nope.

[FlyingPiggy]

66. So speculation is conspiracy theories now?