"When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the

[orleans]

When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs.

Link to tweet

Trump: I don't think I've ever said this before. So we do these rallies. They're massive rallies. Everybody loves, everybody stays till the end. By the way, you know, when she said that, well, your rallies people leave. Honestly, nobody does. And if I saw them leaving, I'd say, and ladies and gentlemen make America great again and I'd get the hell out, ok? Because I don't want people leaving. But I do have to say so I give these long sometimes very complex sentences and paragraphs but they all come together. I do it a lot. I do it with raising cane. That story. I do it with the story on the catapults on the aircraft carriers. I do it with a lot of different stories. When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs. I use it. They say it's terrible. So they say so I'll give this long complex area for instance that I talked about a lot of different territory… You know, for a town hall, there's a lot of people but the fake news likes to say, the fake news likes to say, oh, he was rambling. No, no, that's not rambling. That's genius. When you can connect the dots. Now, now, Sarah, if you couldn't connect the dots, you got a problem. But every dot was connected and many stories were told in that little paragraph

[newdeal2]

1. Ahh, there's that genius weave move

Somewhere an English professor is laughing

[wnylib]

8. Everywhere there are elementary children

in language arts classes who are either laughing or scratching their heads and saying, "Huh?"

[Think. Again.]

19. Oh, I hope nobody is letting children see this guy's crap.

[wnylib]

44. Kids sometimes see or hear things on the news

that their parents would ptefer that they didn't.

But I was responding to a post about English professors laughing at Trump's word salad. The point of my post was that even children would recognize that it was nonsense and laugh at it.

[delisen]

46. Shakespeare on Trump's styles

A tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing.

[wnylib]

47. Don't forget the "sound and fury" part of the quote since

it applies so well, too, to the orange one.

" 'Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[delisen]

64. Thanks, my dropping it in typing was unintended. nt

You are so so right. Thanks for the complete accurate quote. Shakespeare deserves no less.

Sometimes I wonder how it would be to live in an America where the MAGA citizens chose to attend Shakespeare-in-the-Park performances instead of what they are choosing. I like to think it would turn at least some into more critical thinkers.

[wnylib]

67. There is a line from MacBeth that I think is aproprioriate

to describe the 2017 to 2021 Trump term, but I can't remember it or even find it to quote. Maybe you or another poster knows the quote. I don't even remember which character says it. It is a statement about the harm done during MacBeth's rule which says how corrupt and decadent a country, or kingdom, becomes if ruled by someone without character.

I think that the statement comes near the end of the play, but just where and by whom I can't recall.

[AZ8theist]

32. A "stable genius"........LOL!!

[allegorical oracle]

49. O.M.G. What is he trying to say?? Pure argle-bargle. And what is meant by

"coming in from Silence of the Lambs"?

[nikatnyte]

2. This guy is completely nuts

If you don't think so, please interpret that insane jumble of words and tell me what kind of sense it makes. People are coming in from The Silence of the Lambs? What on earth does that mean? What "dots" are there to connect? Holy Crap is right.

[2naSalit]

5. For me...

It proves that he really is confusing insane asylums with political asylum, he thinks the immigrants want to be put back in insane asylums but we are sending them out into the rest of the country. He really thinks this.

[wnylib]

14. But what's with the references to "raising cane" and "catapults on aircraft carriers"?

Does he mean the movie, Raising Cain? Spelled Cain, not Cane.

Catapults on aircraft carriers - Is that from another movie? Or is it from his ridiculous July 4th speech about the Continental Army protecting the airports?

I think that he knows that he's losing whatever mental marbles he has and is trying to explain it away as a sign of genius. But his explanations only confirm for us that his cognitive decline is accelerating.

[Mosby]

20. The catapult reference has to do with sharks and batteries.

Seriously though, he learned somewhere that the new catapults on air craft carriers are electromagnetic, not steam powered and he thinks if it's raining they won't work.

[wnylib]

43. .

[2naSalit]

25. Those are...

Added on components, he's been on the asylum thing since the escalator ride.

You could be right that he might know he's losing it and trying to cover. It's good to recall how the media covered for saint ronnie when his Alzheimer's was really kicking in. This is the same only worse.

[woodsprite]

41. Isn't "Raising Cane" a fast food chicken only restaurant?

We have one around here. It only sells chicken fingers in quantities of 2 to 100. Their boxed meal is fingers, coleslaw, Texas toast, and French fries served with Cane’s sauce (basically a mix of ketchup, mayo, and ground pepper).

[tetedur]

52. Raising Cain is a general

“Dan ‘Razin’ Caine”

Caine allegedly told Trump that ISIS was “not tough,” but “they just don’t let us do our job.” The general then went on to promise the then-president that ISIS could be defeated in a matter of four weeks, per Trump’s retelling Saturday, which was nearly identical to how he told the story back in 2019. Trump’s advisers allegedly told him at the time it would take four years.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2882237/man-behind-trump-plan-eradicate-isis-4-weeks/

[wnylib]

61. Thanks. His word salad still makes no sense, but

at least now I have some frame of reference for "raising cane."

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

3. Well, that clears everything right up.

More verbal diarrhea from Trump's oral sphincter.

[Docreed2003]

4. So not only does this proves he's a demented a-hole

It proves the point we've been making for a while that he thinks asylum equates to "insane asylum"

[2naSalit]

6. That little...

Tirade proves, to me, that he really does not know the difference.

[wnylib]

15. Yup. All those foreigners are sneaking out of insane asylums

in their home countries and coming to the US because we have the best asylums.

[Bristlecone]

7. His brain is scrambled.

No doubt about it.

[The Third Doctor]

9. Im afraid i dont speak Trumpanese

[Solly Mack]

10. People coming in from "Silence of the Lambs"? Like actors coming in from Hollywood? LMAO

Yeah, ok. Genius? Sure. Whatever you rambling blowhard.

[brush]

42. So much policy that voters are looking for. Unlike VP Harris and her...

plan for 50k small business aid, 25k aid for home down payments, 6k aid for first child to parents...oh so much policy delineation, trump.

Your weaving word salad wins the night.

[Solly Mack]

63. Concepts of policy. Genius concepts of policy. With dots to connect. Like a cartoon puzzle. LMAO

[hatrack]

55. Like Jodie Foster, Jonathan Demme, Scott Glenn, Ted Levine?

[Solly Mack]

62. Reagan thought movies were real, too.

[rsdsharp]

11. That boy's cheese done slid off his cracker!

[MustLoveBeagles]

12. Biden was hammered relentlessly for a bad debate

Meanwhile the orange jackass gets a pass

[spanone]

13. Is sarah huckabee the governor of Michigan?

Why is she in Michigan??

[yardwork]

58. That does seem like a lack of courtesy.

I can't think of too many instances where a governor led a political rally in another state. It seems rude.

[Jack Valentino]

16. Yes, Don-OLD, NOW we get it! "Hannibal Lechter" was just another slander on immigrants....

so poorly delivered that no one understood what point you were trying to make, without this explanation---
(and indeed most of us presumed that there was NO point at all,
just more of your incoherent blathering...)

So THANK YOU for explaining to the American people
that you are even WORSE than we thought,
if that is possible, which it apparently is.


By the way, Hannibal is still waiting for your RSVP on his dinner invitation!

What's for dinner? Dog, cat, or YOU ??

[Wiz Imp]

21. The thing is

if the purpose of bringing him up is to compare immigrants to him, then why does he always call him the late, great Hannibal Lecter. Immigrants are bad, but the horrible man you are comparing them to is great? Huh? He seems to talk admiringly of Hannibal Lecter so what is the point. None of it makes any sense. I know. I know. It's Trump. it only makes sense to the brain dead cult members who think everything Trump says is brilliant even it's total gibberish.

[Jack Valentino]

23. I only now understand the context of why he brought up that name....

I don't claim that his monologue makes any sense at all.

[lastlib]

28. He's giving gibberish a bad name.....

[Tarc]

17. I wonder what happens if someone tells Trump that Silence of the Lambs is...

...at its core a tale of a woman finding and honing her inner strength to navigate multiple male-dominated spheres of influence and control. From Crawford's FBI to Chilton's hospital to Lecter's aura.

Phenomenal film, even better novel..

[Backseat Driver]

39. I think what TFG referred to was the scene in which Clarice realized that in order to get Lecter's help, she'd have to,

therefore, do a "quid pro quo" with Lecter, therefore revealing her dark secret PTSD from her monstrous bedtime childhood experience that she's long been challenged to overcome in her mind. The folks are coming into those rallies to hear the tough guy raise Cain (act in an aggressive, troublesome fashion--amazingly enough, a Biblical reference) but they are scared of their own monsters in the dark (Clarice's PTSD from her bedtime childhood experience when the lambs were all finally slaughtered and silenced from their screams). That's what he does and he's chuckling all the way to the bank because he thinks it's his genius by which he's lost those pesky inhibitions.

I don't recall his catapult on aircraft carriers reference; is he confusing it with the drag line & shute to slow down before going sliding overboard on descent?

[allegorical oracle]

50. Wow. You are an admirable translator of Trump-eze. n/t

[Think. Again.]

18. He's simply trolling...

It's like when we get trolls here on DU that highjack a discussion and start posting complex responses that go off in all sorts of different directions and bring in all sorts of barely related new topics, with the intent of distracting and diverting from the OP discussion topic.

He's trolling.

[Blue Owl]

22. Makes even less sense now

[IbogaProject]

24. A legend

A legend in his own mind.

[lastlib]

26. If you ever want to punish a child in school,,,,

make him stay after school and DIAGRAM that sentence! He'll be there til he's old enough to graduate!

[calimary]

27. He is one BIG run-on sentence with track shoes on.

[Martin68]

31. A runoff sentence can actually make sense. Trump doesn't even come close.

[dweller]

29. One day in the near future of trump rallies

https://m.

😐




✌🏻

[Martin68]

30. So when Harris said people leave Trump's rallies early it struck a nerve. Ha!

The man is severely demented.

[littlemissmartypants]

33. His language is best described as full of form but void of content, imo.

It is characteristic of this...

Logorrhea (psychology)

This article is about the psychological term. For the linguistic and stylistic term, see Verbosity.
In psychology, logorrhea or logorrhoea ( from Ancient Greek λόγος logos "word" and ῥέω rheo "to flow" ) is a communication disorder that causes excessive wordiness and repetitiveness, which can cause incoherency. Logorrhea is sometimes classified as a mental illness, though it is more commonly classified as a symptom of mental illness or brain injury. This ailment is often reported as a symptom of Wernicke's aphasia, where damage to the language processing center of the brain creates difficulty in self-centered speech.

Characteristics

Logorrhea is characterized by "rapid, uncontrollable, and incoherent speech".[1] Occasionally, patients with logorrhea may produce speech with normal prosody and a slightly fast speech rate.[2] Other related symptoms include the use of neologisms (new words without clear derivation, e.g. hipidomateous for hippopotamus), words that bear no apparent meaning, and, in some extreme cases, the creation of new words and morphosyntactic constructions. From the "stream of unchecked nonsense often under pressure and the lack of self-correction" that the patient may exhibit, and their circumlocution (the ability to talk around missing words) we may conclude that they are unaware of the grammatical errors they are making.[3]

Examples of logorrhea

When a clinician said, "Tell me what you do with a comb", to a patient with mild Wernicke's aphasia, which produces the symptom of logorrhea, the patient responded:

What do I do with a comb ... what I do with a comb. Well a comb is a utensil or some such thing that can be used for arranging and rearranging the hair on the head both by men and by women. One could also make music with it by putting a piece of paper behind and blowing through it. Sometimes it could be used in art — in sculpture, for example, to make a series of lines in soft clay. It's usually made of plastic and usually black, although it comes in other colors. It is carried in the pocket or until it's needed, when it is taken out and used, then put back in the pocket. Is that what you had in mind?[4]

In this case, the patient maintained proper grammar and did not exhibit any signs of neologisms. However, the patient did use an overabundance of speech in responding to the clinician, as most people would simply respond, "I use a comb to comb my hair."
Snip...
More...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhea_(psychology)

[tanyev]

48. IOW, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing

[Wednesdays]

34. OMG, remember the "Sarah Palin Speech Generators" from 2008?

We need to bring that back. They were all a hoot, and would fit TCF to a tee.



Most of them are long gone, but I found one that still works:
https://godammit.com/palin/

[orleans]

37. wednesdays, i don't remember these but i LOVE this one you linked to!

thank you!! i'm going through it and thinking i might post some of these on fb -- just for fun

she was quite the spellbinder, wasn't she?

[soandso]

40. If you hit "refresh" below the quote

there are more. I like this one:

I'm ill about the position that America is in, and should not be rewarded, but look at my hair

I could see Trump saying that.

Trump is totally ADHD. I have a friend, in his 70s, who I have known for 50 years and he talks the same way. He also cannot read a book from front to back because his brain can't pay attention long enough. As a result, whatever books he does read, he skips all over that place. I seem to recall seeing a photo from Trump's office where a drawer was open and a bottle of Adderall was in it.

Here's a neuroscientist and psychiatrist who even wrote a book about Trump's issue:

https://www.amazon.com/Recognizing-Adult-ADHD-Attention-Hyperactivity/dp/1949642224

[Beetwasher.]

35. Good Lord, I Mean....WTF, They Gonna Sanewash Thia???

How? Nothing else needs to be said.

[Wednesdays]

38. They just won't show it at all. Problem solved.

[Crowman2009]

36. Then he repeats words, the best words, words you never hear at any rally.

[0rganism]

45. If he stood alone on a busy street corner in a major city spouting this crap...

... mothers with small children would shield their children's eyes as they crossed the street to avoid him, whispering, "Come along dear. Don't stare at the funny old man."
... tourists would pose around him briefly taking selfies, then hurry away.
... locals passing him on their way to work would ask the city council to do something about the annoying madman.
... even the bravest pigeons would keep their distance although occasionally targeting him with feces from above.

[Diamond_Dog]

51. And 48% of American voters think this disaster should be President of the United States.

[marble falls]

53. He's not even convinced himself.

[Srkdqltr]

54. The really scary thing is some people understand him.

[allegorical oracle]

56. Some people talk with and understand space aliens, too. nt

[yardwork]

57. This isn't as crazy as it sounds. Let me translate:

"Illegal immigrants are pouring into our country bringing crime and disease. The Democrats are doing this to you. I will protect you. The media tells lies about me, but I'm brave and I keep standing up and telling you the truth. A lot of people are listening. Let's take back our country."

This is what Trump's followers hear. This is what our seemingly reasonable relatives and neighbors think when they tell us "I don't like Trump but I like his policies."

This is what we're up against. It's age-old propaganda against the other.

Fight back. Tell people that you aren't afraid of immigrants.

[dalton99a]

59. +1. The cult knows how to fill in the blanks

[yardwork]

60. We have to fight back against the evil message.

And it is evil. It is truly just what the Nazis did in the 30s. It's the attitude that allowed slavery to be legal in the U.S. for hundreds of years, and repressive Jim Crow laws for 100 more years. It's the attitude that allowed massive, continent-wide genocide of indigenous people here.

There's a simple way to fight back. Every time you hear someone say "I like his policies," say "I'm not afraid of immigrants. The immigrants I know came here for a better life, just like my ancestors. They work hard. I'm glad they're here."

Imagine if millions of Americans started saying "I'm glad they're here" every time immigrants were mentioned.

[Nixie]

66. I can't figure out why more people don't remind him that two

of his wives were immigrants. He gets a pass on everything. Melania had a questionable visa, if I remember. Her "employment" category was a bit sketchy -- maybe she did some criminal "things." 👀

He's just constantly riffing without much pushback. It's infuriating (as we all know).

[muriel_volestrangler]

69. In his mind (and MAGA minds), white migrants don't count as migrants. The racism is implied.

It's the opposite of voters. He claimed he won the female vote in 2016 (and/or 2020). He didn't. But he did win the "white female" vote. And in his mind, only white people count as voters. But white people don't count as immigrants.

[Nixie]

72. Yes, I totally agree that the racism is implied and your

other observations about his strategies about immigrants. He also calls certain countries "infested" so he plays that angle, too, for the obvious appeal to white voters. It would just be nice to have someone call him on it and smear his wives as immigrants just to throw it back in his face.

[Nixie]

65. "people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs"

Wouldn't it be great if someone ever asks him WTF that means ?!

[muriel_volestrangler]

68. I'm hoping that means we get a Clarice Starling too

If characters are invading the USA from fictional films, let's hope they send us the best.

There is the theory that Trump only understands one meaning for the word "asylum", and so thinks that anyone "claiming asylum" is someone belonging in a mental asylum because they're a danger to the public.

[Kid Berwyn]

70. "That's genius."

I'll say.

[karynnj]

71. I think this is classic Trump. Total nonsense, but he says if YOU can't make sense of it,

YOU are not smart enough. It may be that some of his devout followers may CLAIM to understand this mess and see genius. Why? The alternative is that they have to reconsider the years they have followed him, defending him to all who questioned anything. It is easier and more comfortable to them to agree that "if you connect the dots", it all makes sense.

We are dealing with a cult.

[orleans]

74. ... a cult headed by a psycho-nut! nt

[maxsolomon]

73. I've see SOTL.

There's ONE foreigner in it, Hannibal Lecter (I think he's foreign only because he's played by a British actor). So, Hannibal Lecters are sociopathic killers coming into the US?

That is today's attempt at sane-washing.

[bdamomma]

75. Oh the felon

is a SICK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[C_U_L8R]

76. His explanation makes even less sense

What an airhead.

[Irish_Dem]

77. Narcissistic and dementia confabulation.

Making up lies and excuses to cover up his lies, poor memory, and lack of logical thinking.

Normally the family intervenes at this point, takes away any responsibility, car keys,
money handling, etc.

This person is not capable of holding down a job much less heading for the White House.