J.D. Vance Reopens Debate on Pre-Existing Conditions

[applegrove]

J.D. Vance Reopens Debate on Pre-Existing Conditions

September 19, 2024 at 12:00 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 99 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2024/09/19/j-d-vance-reopens-debate-on-pre-existing-conditions/

"SNIP..........

J.D. Vance filled in some of the gaps on Donald Trump’s “concepts of a plan” for health care over the weekend, but in doing so raised new questions about how a second Trump administration would handle pre-existing conditions, Semafor reports.

.............SNIP"

[ExciteBike66]

1. That's right, JD, just go ahead and lick that third rail!

[JohnSJ]

2. What I read he said something to the effect that since there are more healthy people

they should pay less premiums, and those who have pre-existing conditions need to pay more.

In other words make it unaffordable who need it the most.

[keep_left]

5. Proving that he didn't even pass Econ101...

...and apparently has never heard of "adverse selection".

https://democraticunderground.com/100219476695#post4

JD is a total lightweight. He makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.

[applegrove]

6. So the sickest will not be able to afford premiums

and die off. Only the rich sick will get the latest MRNA pancreatic cancer treatment. That will help with Republican electability since most of the rich sick will be Republican and the dead poorer sick would have most likely been democrats.. Seems Republicans will do anything to keep people with pre-existing conditions from being in a pools with everyone else. The insurance pool and the voting pool.

[JohnSJ]

10. Exactly. I will try and find the article I read it in, and post it.

[applegrove]

14. Please do.

[JohnSJ]

15. I think this is it

Those of us who follow health care policy closely understood immediately what he meant.
At any one time, most people aren’t spending a lot on medical care because most people are in relatively good health. The vast majority of costs come from the minority who are getting intensive or ongoing treatment for serious medical problems ― basically anything from a car accident to diabetes to cancer.
The challenge in health policy is how to cover those big expenses. The approach in most economically advanced countries ― and the one embedded here in programs like the Affordable Care Act ― is to have everybody contribute into insurance funds so that the healthy subsidize the sick. These are the “insurance pools” and “risk pools” that Vance is criticizing.
The alternative is to allow more segregation based on health status by, for example, letting insurers charge higher prices, withhold certain benefits or deny coverage altogether to people with pre-existing conditions.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-vance-obamacare-drug-prices_n_66eb3573e4b051614c50d01d/amp

[applegrove]

16. Thanks.

[applegrove]

17. It is a great article. Can you make it its own original post? Or I can do it.

[JohnSJ]

18. Go for it applegrove

[Coexist]

3. PLEASE DO! Oh, please please shout that from the rooftops!

[SheltieLover]

4. Please proceed, beardo.

[applegrove]

7. We need to get back to calling them weird.

[SheltieLover]

8. I call them creepy weirdo & beardo

[Klarkashton]

9. This risk pool shit is unworkable. He knows it's

Unworkable yet he's promoting it like a wise ass bastard.

[lastlib]

11. We're not going back, Weirdo!

Go f*ck a cactus!

[lostnfound]

12. Re-open debate on Roth conversions. Billionaires should be limited to $2,000,000 or so.

https://www.propublica.org/article/house-bill-would-blow-up-the-massive-iras-of-the-superwealthy

[spanone]

13. These people are Monsters. Nothing less.

[keep_left]

19. Basically, they want social Calvinism...free-market social programs.

We already got a taste of what they are planning with the Trump response to Covid, which I call a "free-market pandemic"--because that's largely how the US responded after being hobbled by the Trump regime's incompetence. Imagine Maggie Thatcher's moronic quote "There is no such thing as society!" turned into an entire philosophy, applied to everyone and everything, writ large across the nation.