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Trump: "We're gonna make cars the way we had it 40 or 50 years ago" (Original Post) kpete Sep 2024 OP
I'm sure all would be THRILLED to have the 1974 Ford Pinto and AMC Gremlin back... hlthe2b Sep 2024 #1
Or a Chevy Vega or one of those "Charlie's angels" version of a Ford Mustang. captain queeg Sep 2024 #6
Any modern V8 Camaro would beat that 427. Shermann Sep 2024 #18
I had a '69 blue Camaro convertible with a 327 in it Dave says Sep 2024 #44
That would have been a great car to have. captain queeg Sep 2024 #49
I was rather fond of the Gremlin, owned 3 Maeve Sep 2024 #7
I had a Gremlin too, loved it. Archae Sep 2024 #52
And I guess that leaves Musk's cars out. trump must've forgot Muck's PAC runs his ground game. brush Sep 2024 #16
I had a dream I was driving a Red and White Ford Pinto. BlueKota Sep 2024 #29
I had a 76 Ford Pinto Wagon lpbk2713 Sep 2024 #30
Not a vehichle Ford could brag about BlueKota Sep 2024 #34
Can't wait! BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #57
Or how about a brand new Volare? BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #58
I had a 79 Plymouth Arrow which was another trash car that got 18 mpg kimbutgar Sep 2024 #63
Good grief, I wish Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #2
They just can't let go of that particular lie Freddie Sep 2024 #31
That was the first thing he started on about at the debate. Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #40
The Malaise Era... OhMcNo Sep 2024 #3
Yeah. Remember how you had to trade it off before 50,000 miles and it fell apart? nature-lover Sep 2024 #4
I do not want a 1970s anything! MineralMan Sep 2024 #5
I'll take an all-original 1976 BC Rich Mockingbird. nt Shermann Sep 2024 #20
right ... Lurker Deluxe Sep 2024 #48
You could probably make an even better selection financially speaking Shermann Sep 2024 #69
The era of major market share loss to foreign cars because ours sucked BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #8
My first car was a Toyota for a reason. In all the decades since, GM & Ford have never changed my mind. Hekate Sep 2024 #13
Our last American car was a Chrysler Town & Country wagon from the early 70s BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #21
How many transmissions did you replace in that Town and Country Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #39
Lmao...that was a major part of the torture BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #42
Ford Galaxy? No thank you!! no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #9
I had one of those MurrayDelph Sep 2024 #47
Old guy longs for the good ole days that never were and yells at clouds. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #10
Nailed it, Solly Mack. Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #43
Am I wrong to want a camera in his much-needed rubber room and air it worldwide? Solly Mack Sep 2024 #45
No seatbelts? No child-safety locks? Emissions so bad you can't see across the street? Hekate Sep 2024 #11
Also, they won't talk to my phone!!!111 nt Shermann Sep 2024 #22
No crumple zones? Aristus Sep 2024 #37
big and loud with 8 track tape player! sign me up! BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2024 #46
Yes, please bring back those halcyon days. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #12
To wit . . . hatrack Sep 2024 #14
I might exclude that first AMC, from a looks standpoint anyway. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #17
It's the "opera windows" on the Lincoln that always drove me nuts . . . hatrack Sep 2024 #19
lol...ever sit in the back seat of a car with an opera window? BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #66
So true about the 1970s Quinn Martin detective shows! Diamond_Dog Sep 2024 #41
Gimme this ... marble falls Sep 2024 #32
I had one EXACTLY like that Freddie Sep 2024 #33
Ah, leaded gasoline we barely missed you Johonny Sep 2024 #15
Lead poisoning makes people dumb and more likely to vote for Trump. The cycle continues. nt Shermann Sep 2024 #23
This discussion got me thinking, but I feel like the subject I will propose deserves its own thread. captain queeg Sep 2024 #24
You mean with real metal that last 30+ years. Cost 10-15k. Had components that the owner could repair or replace... usaf-vet Sep 2024 #25
Last 30+ years? Yeah, if you kept it in a garage the entire time. Wednesdays Sep 2024 #68
except that wan't the case 40-50 years ago. uncle ray Sep 2024 #73
The auto industry was in the shitter 40 to 50 years ago Klarkashton Sep 2024 #26
He's full of it. At least 30% of the vehicles on the roads around here are 2yrs old or less. Detroit hasn't had it ... marble falls Sep 2024 #27
Cool, we can go back to doing surgeries with sharpened stones, too. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #28
So the price will be about $2000 like in 1972 for a brand new VW bug? fierywoman Sep 2024 #35
No, we're not. One need not be a Marxist to understand the idea of... keep_left Sep 2024 #36
Thank goodness; I've missed chrome. sinkingfeeling Sep 2024 #38
40 Years Ago... ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #50
Is that gonna be WITH or WITHOUT seat belts? 🤦‍♀️ Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Sep 2024 #51
It's hard to fact check the Niagara Falls of All Liars. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #53
I'd like a new Karmann Ghia or Scirocco ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #54
"gee our old LaSalle ran great" PedroXimenez Sep 2024 #55
1974-1984 The Golden Age of Carburetors bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #56
Cant wait for the Chevy Chevelle to come back Squaredeal Sep 2024 #59
In the 80s Detroit pumped out some real garbage. yourout Sep 2024 #60
Wave those tiny jazz hands, Mr. Say-Whatever-People-Might-Like Blue Owl Sep 2024 #61
Cars that rusted out in 18 months, 60x4 AC, 8 track eating tape players, averaged about 12 MPG, doc03 Sep 2024 #62
Pisswig don't drive ... he meant this dweller Sep 2024 #64
So, gas-guzzling, cheap-ass sh*t, built by people for low wages and almost no union protection. Okay, then. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #65
Hey, I'm all for no more big trucks and big SUV's... DiamondShark Sep 2024 #67
I had an old Corvair that drank more oil than gasoline. Emile Sep 2024 #70
He travels the country telling made up stories Renew Deal Sep 2024 #71
No thank you Rebl2 Sep 2024 #72

hlthe2b

(113,973 posts)
1. I'm sure all would be THRILLED to have the 1974 Ford Pinto and AMC Gremlin back...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 03:43 PM
Sep 2024
On edit, can't believe I left off the Chevy Vega. So many bad cars of the 70s, so little time.

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
6. Or a Chevy Vega or one of those "Charlie's angels" version of a Ford Mustang.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 03:54 PM
Sep 2024

May he’s thinking back to the golden age of hot rods, like th 60s. But no one (but a collector) would want a 427 Camaro or 426 GTX. Get about 8-9 miles per gallon and weigh an extra thousand pounds. He’s an idiot as usual.

Dave says

(5,425 posts)
44. I had a '69 blue Camaro convertible with a 327 in it
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:44 PM
Sep 2024

It was a nice car. I sold it to pay for school.

Maeve

(43,457 posts)
7. I was rather fond of the Gremlin, owned 3
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 03:54 PM
Sep 2024

Worse mileage than my 2018 full sized van, but....

 

Archae

(47,245 posts)
52. I had a Gremlin too, loved it.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:09 PM
Sep 2024

It was so easy to work on if anything needed repairing.

I put a starter in it by climbing INTO the engine compartment, all 6 feet of me.
I'd like to see a car that I could do that nowadays!

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
16. And I guess that leaves Musk's cars out. trump must've forgot Muck's PAC runs his ground game.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:18 PM
Sep 2024

The fucker is getting more demented per day.

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
29. I had a dream I was driving a Red and White Ford Pinto.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:49 PM
Sep 2024

It was right before I was supposed to take driver's education in high-school. Had it 3 times over a few weeks. The brakes wouldn't work as I was coming up to a merge with traffic sign on a busy highway. I woke up before I saw a crash, but it still scared the crap out of me. I ended up not learning to drive until my late 20's.

Hope those never come back. 🤣

BlueKota

(5,351 posts)
34. Not a vehichle Ford could brag about
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 2024

that's for sure. I did like the Tarus model and the Fusion.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
57. Can't wait!
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:17 PM
Sep 2024

I’m hankering for a beautiful, sporty and safe Plymouth Cricket myself. Well-maintained models were known to last as long as 40,000 miles!

0 to 60 in 29 seconds 🤯

https://m.

&pp=ygUXcGx5bW91dGggY3JpY2tldCByZXZpZXc%3D

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
58. Or how about a brand new Volare?
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:22 PM
Sep 2024

These had the front fenders rusted away to dust by their second winter:

https://m.

&pp=ygUJVm9sYXJlIGFk

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
63. I had a 79 Plymouth Arrow which was another trash car that got 18 mpg
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:50 PM
Sep 2024

I’ll take my Hyundai sonata hybrid that get almost 600 on one fill up.

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
31. They just can't let go of that particular lie
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:53 PM
Sep 2024

Too many gullible idiots out there. Surprised he kept repeating it at the debate. Same old same old. Kamala’s response was brilliant.

Diamond_Dog

(40,579 posts)
40. That was the first thing he started on about at the debate.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:37 PM
Sep 2024

It’s such an egregious lie too. It’s utterly and patently false! But they keep repeating it! Who in their right mind believes that doctors put newborn babies on a shelf while they decide how to kill it? It’s so bizarre!

Lurker Deluxe

(1,085 posts)
48. right ...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:52 PM
Sep 2024

I was going to respond something similar ... maybe a new tour bus, full of old guitars.

Pick em, Les Paul, Strat, Tele ...

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
69. You could probably make an even better selection financially speaking
Sun Sep 22, 2024, 10:08 AM
Sep 2024

That mock is the first thing that popped into my head though. That or an early prepro Charvel.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
13. My first car was a Toyota for a reason. In all the decades since, GM & Ford have never changed my mind.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:03 PM
Sep 2024

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
21. Our last American car was a Chrysler Town & Country wagon from the early 70s
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:28 PM
Sep 2024

A super thirsty vehicle with a 383 engine and a penchant for breaking down one way or another multiple times per year. The service was inept, time consuming, expensive and delivered with a shrug.

It was so bad my parents never bought another American car and they drove for another 40+ years. My first car was a Saturn because it was cheap and reliable (which is probably why they killed it) and I’ve gone non-American ever since.

Diamond_Dog

(40,579 posts)
39. How many transmissions did you replace in that Town and Country
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:34 PM
Sep 2024

We had one that we had to replace 2 transmissions … so, 3 altogether.

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
42. Lmao...that was a major part of the torture
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:40 PM
Sep 2024

We replaced ours at least once but only after “fixes” that didn’t quite pan out. Took the better part of a year.

MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
47. I had one of those
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:52 PM
Sep 2024

In the four years I owned it, I had to replace the transmission twice, and would have to gas up halfway between LA and Las Vegas, because the twenty-gallon tank couldn't go the whole 280 miles on one fillup.

Solly Mack

(96,943 posts)
45. Am I wrong to want a camera in his much-needed rubber room and air it worldwide?
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:49 PM
Sep 2024

Tell Trump he's got a new reality show, show him where the cameras are, and then watch while he goes deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole.

Always let him know the ratings are so low he's going to get canceled.

For shits and giggles.

And out of petty spite and revenge.

Just because.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
11. No seatbelts? No child-safety locks? Emissions so bad you can't see across the street?
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:01 PM
Sep 2024

I can hardly wait!

Aristus

(72,188 posts)
37. No crumple zones?
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:13 PM
Sep 2024

Ah, the good old days, when if you got into a high speed collision, instead your car collapsing on itself, it collapses on you!

Xavier Breath

(6,640 posts)
17. I might exclude that first AMC, from a looks standpoint anyway.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:22 PM
Sep 2024

Not a bad looking car. That Lincoln isn't bad either, for what it's supposed to be. People in 1970s Quinn Martin detective shows always drove one of those. The rest, yeah, just ugly. I know some today say all vehicles look pretty much the same, but they're all a damn site better looking than those monstrosities. Yeesh.

hatrack

(64,890 posts)
19. It's the "opera windows" on the Lincoln that always drove me nuts . . .
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:25 PM
Sep 2024

Just . . . so . . silly. IIRC, it was an Iacocca brainstorm - "Put me a Rolls-Royce grill on the front of a Lincoln", and lo! It came to pass.

BeyondGeography

(41,101 posts)
66. lol...ever sit in the back seat of a car with an opera window?
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 08:27 PM
Sep 2024

You couldn’t see shit, even if you and your folding fan leaned forward.

Diamond_Dog

(40,579 posts)
41. So true about the 1970s Quinn Martin detective shows!
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:40 PM
Sep 2024

And those weird looking”opera windows”…. ……..

Freddie

(10,104 posts)
33. I had one EXACTLY like that
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sep 2024

Same color too. Not 70’s, mine was a 1988 I bought in 1994. Nice family car til it died 5 years later.

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
23. Lead poisoning makes people dumb and more likely to vote for Trump. The cycle continues. nt
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:30 PM
Sep 2024

captain queeg

(11,780 posts)
24. This discussion got me thinking, but I feel like the subject I will propose deserves its own thread.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:35 PM
Sep 2024

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
25. You mean with real metal that last 30+ years. Cost 10-15k. Had components that the owner could repair or replace...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:38 PM
Sep 2024

...in their backyard or garage.

That sounds like a great idea! When can I see one in a showroom?

Wednesdays

(22,605 posts)
68. Last 30+ years? Yeah, if you kept it in a garage the entire time.
Sun Sep 22, 2024, 12:30 AM
Sep 2024

Or lived in a region where they never salt the roads in winter.

We'd own a car two years before it got "Michigan cancer" (rust along the bottom of the body), and it'd be worthless after four.

uncle ray

(3,360 posts)
73. except that wan't the case 40-50 years ago.
Sun Sep 22, 2024, 11:01 AM
Sep 2024

sure there was "real metal" but it was stamped into some of the ugliest forms ever made, and safety was only beginning to be engineered into cars. Detroit was starting to use lighter gauge metal and more unibody construction, but they hadn't yet figured out effective corrosion prevention or how to engineer crumple zones. what wasn't steel was plastic that deteriorated in a few years. similarly, ease of repair took a nose dive in this era as automakers struggled to get emissions down, glopping on emission control devices that added a mess of vacuum hoses and wires to electronic boxes and carburetors that failed and choked power down to a fraction of what it was just a few years earlier. shade tree mechanics "fixed" faulty emissions devices by illegally ripping everything out, tanking mileage and emissions. engines would be good for 100k miles before being junk due to worn out valve seats because automakers hadn't figured out metallurgy to work with unleaded gas yet. if you didn't wear the engine out by 100k miles, faulty emissions devices would ensure it's be dead from being clogged with carbon, or nuked from an over lean fuel mixture. And we haven't even touched on build quality yet!

once again, Trump is nostalgic for the good ol days that never were.

Klarkashton

(5,295 posts)
26. The auto industry was in the shitter 40 to 50 years ago
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:41 PM
Sep 2024

It was the dawn of the Japanese import.
Trump is a piece of shit.

marble falls

(71,936 posts)
27. He's full of it. At least 30% of the vehicles on the roads around here are 2yrs old or less. Detroit hasn't had it ...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 04:43 PM
Sep 2024

... so good ever. High prices and high sales numbers.

keep_left

(3,211 posts)
36. No, we're not. One need not be a Marxist to understand the idea of...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 05:05 PM
Sep 2024

..."historical materialism". In other words, we're in a completely different era and physical reality, and we don't have Dr. Emmett Brown's magical time machine to get us back to 1974! (And by the way, does anyone really want a return to the AMC Gremlin?).

Someone really needs to give Trump a cognitive exam, because he's starting to sound like the internet "OK, Boomer" meme in a big (bigly?) way.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
50. 40 Years Ago...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:04 PM
Sep 2024

...the shift to high efficiency cars was 5-10 years into its run.
The Camry was becoming one of the best selling cars in the US & Chrysler had already shifted their whole platform. Omni, Horizon, the K Cars, the Lebaron, the Minivan. I had a 1979 Horizon & a 1983 Lebaron, so I remember.
All manufacturers began a downsizing initiative for fuel economy.
He can't even lie correctly.

Kid Berwyn

(24,399 posts)
53. It's hard to fact check the Niagara Falls of All Liars.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:11 PM
Sep 2024

So, let’s listen to US Special Counsel Jack Smith and lock him up.

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
56. 1974-1984 The Golden Age of Carburetors
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:16 PM
Sep 2024

So many innovations in 40 years.

Where's Donnie headed, Classic Car Show?

Squaredeal

(733 posts)
59. Cant wait for the Chevy Chevelle to come back
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:24 PM
Sep 2024

So we can fix them ourselves, time and again.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
62. Cars that rusted out in 18 months, 60x4 AC, 8 track eating tape players, averaged about 12 MPG,
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:41 PM
Sep 2024

death traps in a collision and engines and transmissions shot at 100k. Put my order in for a new Yugo.

mucholderthandirt

(1,783 posts)
65. So, gas-guzzling, cheap-ass sh*t, built by people for low wages and almost no union protection. Okay, then.
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 06:59 PM
Sep 2024

Between that and every woman getting a post-birth abortion, tariffs on everything -- because we make almost nothing and grow almost nothing here -- everybody being deported or put in prison, we'll be a third world hell hole within six months.

Way to go, America! We're NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!

Renew Deal

(85,169 posts)
71. He travels the country telling made up stories
Sun Sep 22, 2024, 10:28 AM
Sep 2024

I have to wonder how many of the attendees actually believe it rather than showing up for cheap entertainment.

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