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tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:19 AM Sep 2024

Netanyahu's Minister of Education: "There is no difference between Hezbollah and Lebanon. Lebanon will be annihilated."




I assume this also applies to Palestinians in Gaza, in that there's no difference between them and Hamas.
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Netanyahu's Minister of Education: "There is no difference between Hezbollah and Lebanon. Lebanon will be annihilated." (Original Post) tenderfoot Sep 2024 OP
Thus came World War III. Kid Berwyn Sep 2024 #1
Whatever it takes to keep Bibi in office and out of prison. jalan48 Sep 2024 #2
And put Trump in the White House BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #12
Yeah, Bibi's part of Trump's October surprise but some Dems are all in. jalan48 Sep 2024 #31
Israel continues its reign of terror and genocide. Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #3
So far, most of the world is doing absolutely nothing to criticize or stop Netanyahu's carnage. Lonestarblue Sep 2024 #8
Will we acknowledge the 2004 sarisataka Sep 2024 #17
Here we go again Sunsky Sep 2024 #4
Netanyahu and his hardliners are trying to start WWIII, get Orange Man elected, or both. ms liberty Sep 2024 #5
This is absolutely MONSTROUS. hlthe2b Sep 2024 #6
Not as much as Hezbollah taking over Lebanon in 2005 when Netanyahu was out of office. ancianita Sep 2024 #19
Just as Hamas--that Netanyahu funded/enabled for years? Give me a break. hlthe2b Sep 2024 #21
People keep saying that. Yet I've never seen that claim sourced here. Have you got any? ancianita Sep 2024 #22
Took me 2 seconds: "'Buying Quiet': Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas" NYT hlthe2b Sep 2024 #23
Thanks. Understood. I stopped reading NYT a year ago and hadn't seen anything, which is why I asked. ancianita Sep 2024 #27
Okay... good. hlthe2b Sep 2024 #36
Who do you suppose did this? iemanja Sep 2024 #29
Post removed Post removed Sep 2024 #38
Ally with and defend theocratic, rapist and jihadist terrorists? iemanja Sep 2024 #39
Not in my name OrangeJoe Sep 2024 #24
Totally part of Israel's right to defend itself. ColinC Sep 2024 #7
Hezbollah is supported by Lebanon sarisataka Sep 2024 #9
Nope. Hezbollah OWNS Lebanon. The Lebanese admit they have no say over their former country. ancianita Sep 2024 #20
War crimes malaise Sep 2024 #10
I still consider religions to be the destroyers of humanity. walkingman Sep 2024 #11
Greed, hunger for power, and evil use religion as a shield, because housecat Sep 2024 #13
Not all. I've always said that believer wars are the bane of the planet. Islam believes in jihad, and is the prime mover ancianita Sep 2024 #25
That's not helpful. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #14
I love the people of Israeli people, BUT bluestarone Sep 2024 #15
The man is a sociopath iemanja Sep 2024 #16
Gee... 2naSalit Sep 2024 #18
and away we go...nt Javaman Sep 2024 #26
Sad. And I grew up knowing a wonderful lady and her family, all were originally from Lebanon. Such a SWBTATTReg Sep 2024 #28
More warmongering. Wouldn't be surprised if he starts foaming at the mouth. brush Sep 2024 #30
Expect the usual bozos to smear the protestors for this new conflict too SunImp Sep 2024 #34
Does Lebanon have beachfront property as well? Chakaconcarne Sep 2024 #32
Lebanon is a beautiful Mediterranean country JCMach1 Sep 2024 #33
Lebanon has a significant Christian population. Lunabell Sep 2024 #35
Oh....lol...now Israel is committing "genocide" in Lebanon too? How ridiculous. tritsofme Sep 2024 #40
Genocide definition: Lunabell Sep 2024 #41
Bibi's statement Mosby Sep 2024 #37

BeyondGeography

(41,084 posts)
12. And put Trump in the White House
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:49 AM
Sep 2024

But the exploding pagers were cool, said John Fetterman and many folks here.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
3. Israel continues its reign of terror and genocide.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:23 AM
Sep 2024

It won't come back from this any time soon.

Lonestarblue

(13,461 posts)
8. So far, most of the world is doing absolutely nothing to criticize or stop Netanyahu's carnage.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:31 AM
Sep 2024

The UN issues demands that are ignored, the IDF commits war crimes with impunity, and Netanyahu just keeps every war possible alive with escalation.

sarisataka

(22,665 posts)
17. Will we acknowledge the 2004
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 12:17 PM
Sep 2024

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559, that said all Lebanese militias should disband? Or do we agree with Lebanon that Hezbollah is an internal matter so the resolution doesn't apply?

hlthe2b

(113,868 posts)
6. This is absolutely MONSTROUS.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:28 AM
Sep 2024

I don't know what more to say except that this is devastating. Most will never go to Lebanon but Beirut was once considered the Paris of the Middle East. I've been there and am devastated by this attitude. It is to endorse genocide.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
19. Not as much as Hezbollah taking over Lebanon in 2005 when Netanyahu was out of office.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 01:50 PM
Sep 2024

Hezbollah has Israel's genocide written into its charter, just like Hamas. Talk about monstrous.

hlthe2b

(113,868 posts)
21. Just as Hamas--that Netanyahu funded/enabled for years? Give me a break.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 01:53 PM
Sep 2024

I don't deny Israel's right to defend themselves, but this is more than that. They are dragging us into a regional ME war and you are quite willing to let him do so. Put me on ignore because I will not respond to you further. I don't deal with those who justify or cheer on genocide of civilian populations.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
22. People keep saying that. Yet I've never seen that claim sourced here. Have you got any?
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 01:56 PM
Sep 2024

I'm not cheering on genocide of civilians -- that's Hamas and Hezbollah. I can source that for you.

hlthe2b

(113,868 posts)
23. Took me 2 seconds: "'Buying Quiet': Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas" NYT
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:05 PM
Sep 2024

One of many sources, had you ever bothered to look. It won't convince you, but don't respond to me again. This is my last attempt to show you that damned, lying SOB Netanyahu is lying to you every much as the Israelis he is content to sell out. He is nothing more than the Israeli version of Trump and cares about his own people no more than TSF does us.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.

During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?

Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.

Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.

The Qatari payments, while ostensibly a secret, have been widely known and discussed in the Israeli news media for years. Mr. Netanyahu’s critics disparage them as part of a strategy of “buying quiet,” and the policy is in the middle of a ruthless reassessment following the attacks. Mr. Netanyahu has lashed back at that criticism, calling the suggestion that he tried to empower Hamas “ridiculous.”

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
27. Thanks. Understood. I stopped reading NYT a year ago and hadn't seen anything, which is why I asked.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:29 PM
Sep 2024

So when the Israeli people protested Netanyahu and at the same time were facing Hamas and Hezbollah attacks, isn't this pretty much like being existentially between a rock and a hard place?

Look, I only support Israel's right to defend itself against attack -- which doesn't mean I agree with how it does, only that it does defend its existence.

I'm not judging Israel. I'm judging terrorists.

Like Trump, Netanyahu knows his days are numbered. But Israelis have to have peace and stability long enough to put him away, imo. Until then we can't say that he and Likud have to be removed, since that couldn't work in the middle of this war. We have to admit that for all our relative stability we haven't been able to rid ourselves of Trump and his Nazi racist cult, either. So imagine how similarly hard this situation is for Israeli citizens.

iemanja

(57,751 posts)
29. Who do you suppose did this?
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:43 PM
Sep 2024




Those are pictures of Gaza.

Meanwhile, Israel is still thriving. How has Hezbollah or Hamas committed genocide on Israel's population? That idiot terrorists have something in their charter without the capacity to carry it out does not equate with reality. Israel not only has the capacity; it is actively engaging in the act--if not genocide then the full-scale destruction of the Palestinian homeland. Now, you may justify or be unaware of the fact that Gaza is now a pile of rubble, that 41,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered, that children are targeted for assassination and denied exit for medical treatment, and boys are raped by IDF soldiers, but the rest of the world does pay attention and object to such atrocities. The US stands alone in its sanguine attitude toward such behavior, and even then, roughly half of Americans disagree with Israel's actions in Gaza. DU happens to be more conservative than the population at large when it comes to this issue, which is a bit of head scratcher to me.

https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/G5gIg_iwm8ZuPSjg9uqYjBizZ_NsgDdN/

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/gaza-sexual-violence-men-boys-israel/

Response to iemanja (Reply #29)

iemanja

(57,751 posts)
39. Ally with and defend theocratic, rapist and jihadist terrorists?
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:11 PM
Sep 2024

That is an insult, and a clear sign you read nothing I posted. I challenge you to watch the Sunday morning segment and to read the article on RAPE.

OrangeJoe

(559 posts)
24. Not in my name
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:13 PM
Sep 2024

Last time I looked we were giving Israel billions of dollars and weapons to wage war. Hamas and Hezbollah do not feed at the taxpayers trough. I say we treat them equally and cut off all aid to Israel.

sarisataka

(22,665 posts)
9. Hezbollah is supported by Lebanon
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:34 AM
Sep 2024

And their military wing is legally acknowledged by the Lebanese government. However, to say there is no difference is stretching the truth very far

Israel has the right to return fire at Hezbollah but not to "annihilate" Lebanon.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
20. Nope. Hezbollah OWNS Lebanon. The Lebanese admit they have no say over their former country.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 01:51 PM
Sep 2024

And just like with Hamas, Hezbollah will hide behind Lebanese civilians and cry cry cry victimhood to the ignorant world if Israel rids itself of Iran's Nasrallah terrorists.

housecat

(3,138 posts)
13. Greed, hunger for power, and evil use religion as a shield, because
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:57 AM
Sep 2024

it's so easy to control believers.

ancianita

(43,303 posts)
25. Not all. I've always said that believer wars are the bane of the planet. Islam believes in jihad, and is the prime mover
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:15 PM
Sep 2024

of today's believer wars.

from the Catholic Church...

At the same time, our faith compels us to have the same care for Muslims and Jews that we do for fellow Christians. We are called to defend the rights and dignity of all who suffer in Israel-Palestine, regardless of their religion, ethnicity or nationality.

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2024/06/20/catholic-social-teaching-israel-palestine-conflict-248191#:~:text=At%20the%20same%20time%2C%20our,their%20religion%2C%20ethnicity%20or%20nationality.

The International Christian Embassy is in Jerusalem, and is interdenominational.

At present, there are 103 Catholic parishes in Israel and the Palestinian Territories.
The Catholic Church considers the Holy Land to include Israel, the Palestinian Territories, Jerusalem and Jordan. For some Eastern Churches, the Holy Land also includes Lebanon and Syria.

Pope Francis has often stressed the importance of dialogue, diplomacy, and the search for peaceful solutions, emphasising that war begets war, violence begets violence. The Catholic Church, under Pope Francis, advocates for a two-state solution, with both Israel and Palestine coexisting peacefully.

https://catholictt.org/2023/10/13/the-israel-palestine-war-through-a-catholic-lens/#:~:text=Pope%20Francis%20has%20often%20stressed,begets%20war%2C%20violence%20begets%20violence.&text=The%20Catholic%20Church%2C%20under%20Pope,Israel%20and%20Palestine%20coexisting%20peacefully.

maxsolomon

(38,679 posts)
14. That's not helpful.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 12:08 PM
Sep 2024

The education minister isn't making military policy, I presume.

I'd wager the non-Shiite population of Lebanon thinks there's a difference.

bluestarone

(22,130 posts)
15. I love the people of Israeli people, BUT
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sep 2024

They have leaders like the ones we are trying to defeat. That's the truth.

iemanja

(57,751 posts)
16. The man is a sociopath
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 12:15 PM
Sep 2024

Intent on destroying the entire region. If he isn't removed from power, he will kill everyone in sight, including Israelis caught in the crossfire.

SWBTATTReg

(26,252 posts)
28. Sad. And I grew up knowing a wonderful lady and her family, all were originally from Lebanon. Such a
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:33 PM
Sep 2024

horrible tragedy to befall this country, and I wonder, where is the United Nations?

Too bad that these small countries are oftentimes the victim of far bigger geopolitical events. Well, I know at least one Lebanese family is safely here in the states.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
30. More warmongering. Wouldn't be surprised if he starts foaming at the mouth.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 02:53 PM
Sep 2024

How is this person an official in the Israeli government?

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
35. Lebanon has a significant Christian population.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 04:47 PM
Sep 2024

Do American evangelical christians support THIS genocide too?

tritsofme

(19,887 posts)
40. Oh....lol...now Israel is committing "genocide" in Lebanon too? How ridiculous.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:49 PM
Sep 2024

I guess if Jews dare to defend themselves, or exist, or breathe, they are committing genocide. Got it.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
41. Genocide definition:
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 05:03 AM
Sep 2024

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
"a campaign of genocide"

Netanyahu's Minister of Education: "There is no difference between Hezbollah and Lebanon. Lebanon will be annihilated."

Annihilate definition: To cause to cease to exist : to do away with entirely so that nothing remains. b. : to destroy a considerable part of.

Apples and oranges? Nope. Both are apples. "Lol"

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