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OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 07:58 PM Sep 2024

In 1972, I cast my 1st vote in a Presidential election. It was a "no brainer" - I voted for George McGovern.

I remember telling my mom - an Eisenhower Republican - and Dad (it's none of your business who I voted for) who I voted for. Neither thought that was a good choice at the time. 2 years later, they both agreed that McGovern would have been a better President.

So why is it so hard for Trump Republicans to admit their vote in 2016 hurt this Country? Yet they voted for Trump in 2020 and will again this year. In spite of everything we know today.

I see too many interviews with the people who attend the Trump Carnival....and almost no interviews with Harris-Walz supporters. Why is that? And that's been an issue, since I cast my 1st Presidential vote. Seems like we need equal time with public interviews of voters.

The contrast should be important to this country's future. You listen to these Trump voter/ rally goers, dressed to impress their fellow Trump fans, and they say nothing intelligent. One thing you don't hear, are any verifiable facts. It's all about showing up, reinforcing the Trump bullshit amongst themselves, and support each other with their undying loyalty to the Trump brand. Yet, we never get to hear interviews of everyday Americans that are diametrically opposed and quite capable of annunciating their reasons and viewpoints.

Why is that?.

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In 1972, I cast my 1st vote in a Presidential election. It was a "no brainer" - I voted for George McGovern. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 OP
You and me both Cartoonist Sep 2024 #1
Me too PCIntern Sep 2024 #2
Eight years later the system convinced people Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #3
I did also. I was 20 at the time. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2024 #4
Me too dflprincess Sep 2024 #5
I was a freshman in college tonekat Sep 2024 #6
They still had the draft lottery in 71,,,,my # was low enough to earn me a physical. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #11
Me too n/t Mz Pip Sep 2024 #7
Same here flakey_foont Sep 2024 #8
My parents had house parties. Warren Beatty and cachukis Sep 2024 #9
That's a really cool story. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #15
Was there any other candidate? Oh... yeah...Nixon. Bastard won 60% of the vote. albacore Sep 2024 #10
George was painted as a lily-livered liberal. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #16
He piloted 35 bombing missions. Nixon was in supply. nt albacore Sep 2024 #18
He knew the cost of war. Nixon didn't. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #19
"Whippersnapers" ReRe Sep 2024 #25
Ditto! My parents both voted for Nixon and I was so pissed. They had voted for Humphrey in '68. 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2024 #12
Me too! ananda Sep 2024 #13
I worked with George McGovern producing his regional TV commercials. Liberal In Texas Sep 2024 #14
Interesting story. Had to have impacted you greatly to meet him. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #17
He struck me as a regular guy with a lot of common sense. Liberal In Texas Sep 2024 #20
You know, I think back to those times. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #22
Same here FakeNoose Sep 2024 #21
A simple statement, without debate, that exactly OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #23
I was a kid at that time Montauk6 Sep 2024 #24
I Was With You, Too The Roux Comes First Sep 2024 #26
My very first presidential vote was in '68 when I turned 21 MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2024 #27

Cartoonist

(7,579 posts)
1. You and me both
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 08:20 PM
Sep 2024

I remember an ad that showed our navy represented as miniature boats on a map of the world. The voiceover said this would happen if McGovern was president, and they showed a hand wiping them all off the map.
The America of that time believed it.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
3. Eight years later the system convinced people
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 08:28 PM
Sep 2024

to vote in Reagan and enthusiastically support the dismantling of the New Deal reform era.

The ability of media to persuade and control people is frequently underestimated.

dflprincess

(29,338 posts)
5. Me too
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 08:37 PM
Sep 2024

I was 19 and had volunteered with "Students for McGovern".

I will always be proud of that vote.

tonekat

(2,525 posts)
6. I was a freshman in college
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 08:38 PM
Sep 2024

And I was becoming more aware by the day, and had made the decision to vote for McGovern.

Years earlier, in Junior High, I remember a female classmate saying "My Dad says if Nixon wins we're moving to Canada!"

OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
11. They still had the draft lottery in 71,,,,my # was low enough to earn me a physical.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:08 PM
Sep 2024

There was a moment in time when I was "WTF" about the situation.

cachukis

(3,932 posts)
9. My parents had house parties. Warren Beatty and
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 08:58 PM
Sep 2024

Shirley McLane at one. Paul Newman at another.
We had moved from Massachusetts to New Hampshire and my parents thought they could turn New Hampshire Blue.
Took a long time.
Proud of my vote for McGovern.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
15. That's a really cool story.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:46 PM
Sep 2024

In 86, my wife and I were delegates for Gary Hart. We actually went to a Hart event at Stephen King's home in Bangor. The next day we meet at a school in Bangor (can't remember the name). It was a classroom type situation. Stephen and Tabatha were in front of us. She was wearing a silk embroided jacket for the "Christine" movie that had recently dropped.

albacore

(2,747 posts)
10. Was there any other candidate? Oh... yeah...Nixon. Bastard won 60% of the vote.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:00 PM
Sep 2024

Proof positive that many Murikans are just bone-stupid.
Then there was some kind of kerfuffle, and Nixon was out.
Could have saved all that trouble by just elected an honest man in the first place.

You whippersnapers are talking about your first vote! My first vote was for LBJ, and he was actively trying to get me killed.
But again...there was no other candidate. Just some nut named Goldwater.

Interesting note: Neither Goldwater nor Nixon could be nominated for any office in today's trumpublican Party.... too librul.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
16. George was painted as a lily-livered liberal.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:53 PM
Sep 2024

When he was a B-17 Bomber pilot in WW2. Saw a lot of war acton. Understood the cost of modern warfare.

Was it Jimmy Buffett that said we should have bombed North Vietnam with $5.00 bills? We could have ended the war, with less bloodshed. ecological damage if we turned them into capitalists.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
25. "Whippersnapers"
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:03 PM
Sep 2024

That word got several chuckles out of me.

Was a few yrs behind you. I was a 'George McGovern' first voter.

Liberal In Texas

(16,267 posts)
14. I worked with George McGovern producing his regional TV commercials.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:44 PM
Sep 2024

He was a really good guy. I was really bummed when he lost and lost by as much as he did.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
17. Interesting story. Had to have impacted you greatly to meet him.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 09:59 PM
Sep 2024

He struck me as a man who could argue his case to win....with everyone....but never got the national political oxygen.

Liberal In Texas

(16,267 posts)
20. He struck me as a regular guy with a lot of common sense.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:26 PM
Sep 2024

I remember he would talk about this and that between takes, as you do, and one of the things he said was he disliked Washington D.C. pretty intensely.
Which was, of course, ironic since he was running for President.
I think he was a guy you would trust your life savings to but didn't quite have the dynamic charisma that seems to be needed in politics then and now.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,116 posts)
22. You know, I think back to those times.
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:37 PM
Sep 2024

Had we had an internet back then, that could have broadened people's access to real information and therefore being more informed. Of course the breakdown on our societal reality would have probably happened sooner.

FakeNoose

(41,599 posts)
21. Same here
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:28 PM
Sep 2024

Born in 1951 ... turned 21 in 1972.

Never, ever voted for a Repuke. I'm sure I never will either.

Montauk6

(9,339 posts)
24. I was a kid at that time
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 10:44 PM
Sep 2024

But I do remember watching those episodes of "All In The Family" with Mike (big McGovern supporter) arguing with Archie (huge fan of "Richard E. Nixon'') about who was going to the White House.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,059 posts)
27. My very first presidential vote was in '68 when I turned 21
Mon Sep 23, 2024, 11:30 PM
Sep 2024

what really stuck in my craw was that I couldn't vote for Pres. until I turned 21, but I could be sent to Vietnam to fight.

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