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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:12 AM Sep 2024

Jon stewart is a jackass. He is criticizing President Biden because President Biden keeps insisting that they are

trying to get a ceasefire with Israel and Palestine, while Netanyahu is escalating the.conflict.


"Stewart opened his show by criticizing President Joe Biden over the United States' recent insistence that it's working tireless toward a ceasefire. He played a montage of Biden repeating his insistence that his administration was working tirelessly toward a ceasefire with Israel and Palestine."

"Stewart points out that in one of the clips, Biden is eating ice cream out of a cone. Stewart grabs a cone of his own — then promptly spits it out as he plays a news clip announcing Israel launched an all-out assault on Hezbollah in Lebanon.

"Wait! We've been working tirelessly towards a ceasefire in Gaza and they're in f---ing Lebanon?" an incredulous Stewart asks."


https://www.rawstory.com/jon-stewart-daily-show-2669257533/

I will put it politely, F**K YOU JON STEWART!!!.

What does he expect Biden to do? We are 40 some days away from an election that will determine whether our democracy survives or not.

It is a terrible situation that Hamas, Hezbollah, and the "over kill" that Netanyahu is doing, putting President Biden in a no-win situation.

What does Stewart expect President Biden to say? "we aren't trying to do a ceasefire"? "To stop all arms shipments to Israel"?,

If Stewart thinks that will help VP Harris, then he is dumber than he looks.

Contrary to what Stewart is "ASS u ME" ing, Biden has been in intensive talks with various parties in that region, and it is pretty clear neither Hamas or Netanyahu are looking for a ceasefire.

Hamas knew exactly what they were doing on October 7th, and they knew what Israel's response would be. Hamas was hoping that Netanyahu would do just what he is doing, thinking it would unite the entire Middle East to destroy Israel. So far that hasn't happened, but it isn't for lack of not trying, and it sure isn't over yet.

We need to get through and win this election, and making major moves right now can effect the entire outcome.

VP Harris has said we need a cease fire, Israel has the right to self-defense, and the Palestinians have a right to self-determination. A two state solution, which at this time doesn't seem either party wants.






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Jon stewart is a jackass. He is criticizing President Biden because President Biden keeps insisting that they are (Original Post) JohnSJ Sep 2024 OP
Stewart should've stayed retired as he's tarnishing his legacy of being on the right side of history/politics. brush Sep 2024 #1
No idea, but this is an impossible situation, and it is pretty clear Netanyahu would like to see trump win, and I would JohnSJ Sep 2024 #2
yep Tetrachloride Sep 2024 #7
I suspect you're right. Biophilic Sep 2024 #78
He shines occasionally. But not often. LakeArenal Sep 2024 #52
Drugs and or alcohol Ponietz Sep 2024 #53
Stewart is smug and self righteous SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #3
He doesn't sound much different than Bill Maher, at least in regard to you smug and self righteous characterization. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #4
Both are SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #5
True enough, but Stewart is also Jewish FakeNoose Sep 2024 #58
Maher is very pro Israel SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #66
I said that exact thing to my wife last night Fichefinder Sep 2024 #60
Great minds think alike......... JohnSJ Sep 2024 #62
Remember his first show back in February, he did his both sides agingdem Sep 2024 #16
TY for That Reminder! "Pres Biden & TSF are both old so they're the Same"... Cha Sep 2024 #74
At least Maher is occasionally funny FrankBooth Sep 2024 #68
I hold no truck with Jon Stewart now EYESORE 9001 Sep 2024 #6
Same ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #75
*Sigh* That's too bad.. Pres Biden has to keep Trying Cha Sep 2024 #8
Jon Stewart is an idiot. Don't like the guy and he's not funny TommieMommy Sep 2024 #9
Whatever else Jon Stewart is ... he is not a jackass. speak easy Sep 2024 #10
He's become a slightly smarter Bill Maher kcr Sep 2024 #20
Strong disagree on the fool newdeal2 Sep 2024 #26
I agree ScubaSteve Sep 2024 #11
I haven't really liked him or sought to watch him in awhile. woodsprite Sep 2024 #12
F**k Stewart and Maher and the rest moniss Sep 2024 #13
It just proves... ReRe Sep 2024 #14
There are many determined to turn a blind eye to the corrupt intent of Netanyahu in all of this--protecting himself hlthe2b Sep 2024 #15
If he hadn't let that money in he would have been heavily criticized Mosby Sep 2024 #38
Wow. What an ability to fool yourself. I hope you can wake up. hlthe2b Sep 2024 #39
That's so true! ReRe Sep 2024 #82
Most of what made Jon Stewart was the other people around him. moniss Sep 2024 #17
Stewart is always Both Sides Same. betsuni Sep 2024 #18
There are about eight progressive celebrity influencers that I now go out of my way to ignore. Baitball Blogger Sep 2024 #19
After the first few Hezbollah figures out they're being tracked and discards all electronic devices. Ex Lurker Sep 2024 #79
The US should withold certain types of offensive weapons Martin Eden Sep 2024 #21
So can you answer his question without ad hominems? ColinC Sep 2024 #22
The answer is you try to get a cease fire, but neither side really wants one. As for your ""context" in Michigan, you JohnSJ Sep 2024 #25
Your answer is good. Thank you. And I agree completely! ColinC Sep 2024 #31
57% of Lebanese Americans voted for Hillary. Mosby Sep 2024 #43
If that happens again we could lose Michigan again ColinC Sep 2024 #46
Thanks for that... I was wondering how many Ukrainians are in Cha Sep 2024 #70
Jon Stewart is clearly not the man he was Johonny Sep 2024 #23
Seconded RT Atlanta Sep 2024 #40
Well, next week or the week after, he won't be. Chakaconcarne Sep 2024 #24
Anyone else notice SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #27
Oh Wow... and Stupid. Shows a Mean Spisrit. Cha Sep 2024 #71
The more important issue is randr Sep 2024 #28
Why aren't we allowed to criticize Jon Stewart? Stewart, Maher, etc. have always said what they want. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #33
I have no problem criticizing any of the pundits randr Sep 2024 #36
Then we agree that criticisms pro or con are fair game. Biden will not be President next year, it will either be JohnSJ Sep 2024 #41
Anything that spurs the people of this country to get concerned enough randr Sep 2024 #65
Making fun of Biden helps no situation, except perhaps encouraging uncommitted voters to not bother voting. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #67
maybe he could join Morning Joe. Hotler Sep 2024 #29
There are many jackasses in this world Sympthsical Sep 2024 #30
I disagree. Effectively blaming Biden for what is happening, and saying Biden is doing nothing, is stewart JohnSJ Sep 2024 #35
Sounds like Stewart is a "Jackass" to me.. I just read on here Cha Sep 2024 #72
Yes JohnSJ Sep 2024 #73
I'm sure they are trying to get a ceasefire. alarimer Sep 2024 #32
There is no doubt that Netanyahu is a major obstacle to this situation, but portraying Biden as a buffoon is false, JohnSJ Sep 2024 #44
It is. alarimer Sep 2024 #69
I've been over Jon Stewart for a long, long time. Nixie Sep 2024 #34
Is stuart on pooties payroll also? getagrip_already Sep 2024 #37
I can't, in good conscience, say more than when I have read the same criticisms on DU- sarisataka Sep 2024 #42
President Biden is speaking before the UN right now. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #45
I'm sorry, I don't see how that is pertinent to my reply sarisataka Sep 2024 #47
That is because I neglected to provide context. Biden spoke on all the issues, including the Israeli/Palestinian JohnSJ Sep 2024 #48
Yes Biden has done all that sarisataka Sep 2024 #49
I agree. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #55
It's time for a reliever. Hand over the ball awesomerwb1 Sep 2024 #50
Stewart has tried to how an audience from the center liberal N proud Sep 2024 #51
There are a lot of dirty hands... returnee Sep 2024 #54
I'm disappointed in Stewart, but he is a comedian. They cut off a ton of material if they exclude their targets Groundhawg Sep 2024 #56
he used to be funny NoRethugFriends Sep 2024 #57
He actually said, "Former President Joe Biden..." GreenWave Sep 2024 #59
Makes my view of him even lower than it already was. JohnSJ Sep 2024 #61
K&R for, thank you - irks me he has a large following here. UTUSN Sep 2024 #63
Last night's episode was it for me! MiKenMi33 Sep 2024 #64
Was there a time when Americans stood behind their leader(s) in difficult times? Biophilic Sep 2024 #76
Nettleyhoo's fault, NOT BIDEN'S! Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #77
I think Jon stewart is right. Eko Sep 2024 #80
With respect I must disagree al bupp Sep 2024 #81
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
1. Stewart should've stayed retired as he's tarnishing his legacy of being on the right side of history/politics.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:30 AM
Sep 2024

Last edited Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Now he keeps screwing up trying to be funny.

Guess he ran out of money and had to come back.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
2. No idea, but this is an impossible situation, and it is pretty clear Netanyahu would like to see trump win, and I would
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:37 AM
Sep 2024

not be surprised if Hamas feels the same way,.

Biophilic

(6,552 posts)
78. I suspect you're right.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 07:08 PM
Sep 2024

They would both be happy to declare all out war with each other and trump would step back and support them both to allow them to tear their lands and people to shred. After all Jarod had plans for beach front resorts and extra people just get in the way.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
52. He shines occasionally. But not often.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:21 AM
Sep 2024

And…..He laughs at his own jokes. That’s annoying even before the context of his stupid jokes.

Hopefully he’ll return to his turd farm after election.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
3. Stewart is smug and self righteous
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:39 AM
Sep 2024

He believes he’s always the smartest person in the room and can’t stand that there are people much smarter than him. Also, he’s long hated Biden and can’t resist the urge to attack him wherever possible.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
4. He doesn't sound much different than Bill Maher, at least in regard to you smug and self righteous characterization.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:43 AM
Sep 2024

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
58. True enough, but Stewart is also Jewish
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:32 AM
Sep 2024

So of course he's viewing the Palestinian thing differently than many of us.

Jon Stewart needs to understand that most of his audience is sympathetic to - and supportive of - Joe Biden.
I don't believe Bill Mahar has to worry about that so much.

agingdem

(8,849 posts)
16. Remember his first show back in February, he did his both sides
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:15 AM
Sep 2024

shtick and "joked" Biden is old therefore he's no better than Trump.....and because Stewart is a smug son-of-a bitch with an obvious anti-Biden bias, he alone has determined the blame for Hamas slaughtering Israeli Jews and refusing to negotiate a cease-fire (because Hamas is systemically killing their "bargaining chips"..the hostages) is on Biden for not forcing meglamaniac Bibi to make nice with Arab terrorists..and because of his ill conceived reboot, Stewart will be remembered not as the guy who took on Tucker Carlson and won, but as venal has-been unable to accept his days of relevance are long over....

Cha

(319,076 posts)
74. TY for That Reminder! "Pres Biden & TSF are both old so they're the Same"...
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sep 2024

Paraphrasing. Mean Spirited Jackass.

I remember now.. Many of us were Pushing Back... about the Fuckin DIFFENCEENCES!

I think Rob Reiner had a Pointed Tweet about that, too.

FrankBooth

(1,852 posts)
68. At least Maher is occasionally funny
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 02:20 PM
Sep 2024

I don't know what happened to John, but he is no longer funny IMO. Whenever I watch I'm just waiting to laugh and rarely, if ever, do.

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
6. I hold no truck with Jon Stewart now
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:08 AM
Sep 2024

I put him on my pay-no-mind list after his ballyhooed return to the stage. Started criticizing, nay, ridiculing our President at a critical time.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
75. Same
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:59 PM
Sep 2024

Also same with all the "progressive" traitors who jumped into this summer's travesty. I'll remember whose movies or shows I need to pass on.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
8. *Sigh* That's too bad.. Pres Biden has to keep Trying
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:33 AM
Sep 2024

no matter what Hezbollah and Hamas keep Fucking up.

I never knew Stewart hated Pres Biden so much sounds like he's giving the RF Jill stein some talking Points. .

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
10. Whatever else Jon Stewart is ... he is not a jackass.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 05:11 AM
Sep 2024

You may disagree with him, but he is not a fool nor adversary.

newdeal2

(5,414 posts)
26. Strong disagree on the fool
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:32 AM
Sep 2024

He is very naive on certain subjects and loves to portray both sides as equally bad or incompetent.

ScubaSteve

(120 posts)
11. I agree
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 05:20 AM
Sep 2024

Biden cannot do anything as it's up to Lebanon, Gaza, and Israel as to what the fuck they are going to do.

Lebanon shoots 100 missiles into Israel, what the fuck do they expect to happen?
Israel will say sorry, you're right we'll back off?
No, they send 400 missiles into Lebanon.

Same with Gaza, they shoot 200 missiles into Israel and expect a pullout?
No, Israel sends a couple hundred missiles back their way.

We cannot stop them from killing themselves.

woodsprite

(12,582 posts)
12. I haven't really liked him or sought to watch him in awhile.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 05:26 AM
Sep 2024

But I really think he’s an ass since I found out what my friends had to go through when they went to see him on stage. One thing, his shtick was mainly about himself, not much about current events. Everybody attending were required to put pagers, cell phones, etc turned off and locked in one of those plastic zip locked containers. If you had to step out to the lobby to the restroom or to take or make a call during the performance for any reason, you weren’t allowed back into the theater. I can see understand the security check prior to being let into the building but it caused him to start about 90-min late.

We were all there for Randy Rainbow the following night and the paying audience certainly didn’t have to jump through hoops like that.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
13. F**k Stewart and Maher and the rest
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:09 AM
Sep 2024

who have been doing there "age" jokes on him non-stop. Age is something you are or you aren't just like skin color or nationality. How about we all start jumping this or that comedian about skin color, nationality etc.? I bet the response would be instantaneous of how awful and horrible to constantly do that.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
14. It just proves...
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:09 AM
Sep 2024

... the fact that he has absolutely NO judgement. Period. I watch him occasionally but didn't watch him last night. And it's a damn good thing, because I would most likely have thrown something heavy at the TV screen. Holy moley.

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
15. There are many determined to turn a blind eye to the corrupt intent of Netanyahu in all of this--protecting himself
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:12 AM
Sep 2024

at the cost of Israeli lives by initiating a much wider and perhaps regional conflict. By doing so, he certainly is keeping himself from facing justice (and jail), but at what cost? Unfortunately, he has bamboozled so many that they will now defend HIM and his malign intentions at all cost, while blaming Biden as a convenient proxy for the failure of a ceasefire.

I wish only to remind you. Netanyahu brought Israel this debacle with his long support of Hamas-- as well as his policies toward Hezbollah. Jon Stewart and others need to open their eyes:

Buying Quiet': Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas" NYT
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html

For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them.

During his meetings in September with the Qatari officials, according to several people familiar with the secret discussions, the Mossad chief, David Barnea, was asked a question that had not been on the agenda: Did Israel want the payments to continue?

Mr. Netanyahu’s government had recently decided to continue the policy, so Mr. Barnea said yes. The Israeli government still welcomed the money from Doha.

Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.

The Qatari payments, while ostensibly a secret, have been widely known and discussed in the Israeli news media for years. Mr. Netanyahu’s critics disparage them as part of a strategy of “buying quiet,” and the policy is in the middle of a ruthless reassessment following the attacks. Mr. Netanyahu has lashed back at that criticism, calling the suggestion that he tried to empower Hamas “ridiculous.”


 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
38. If he hadn't let that money in he would have been heavily criticized
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:08 AM
Sep 2024

For Genocide, Crimes against Humanity, etc.

Like this but 10x worse:

With strikes targeting rockets and tunnels, the Israeli tactic of ‘mowing the grass’ returns to Gaza

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/05/14/israel-gaza-history/

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
39. Wow. What an ability to fool yourself. I hope you can wake up.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:16 AM
Sep 2024

If you believe THAT then it would seem that you are likewise willing to belive everything from OUR RW media including Trump's excuses for why he should not be in jail. May something lift the film from your eyes--for the sake of the Israelis at risk from Netanyahu's exploitation, self-motivation, and corruption. He has shown repeatedly that he doesn't give a damn about his own people--anymore than Trump does Americans. I have a close colleague who went to school with him in Philadelphia decades ago. He was incredibly manipulative then as a young teen--just as he is now as a grown man.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
82. That's so true!
Wed Sep 25, 2024, 12:24 AM
Sep 2024

I know this fact you point to. Netanyahu CREATED Hamas. It's like he lye in wait until someone like Joe Biden came along who he could sucker into his plan {this is totally MY opinion, based on reading the fine print in the news and the passage of time}.

As per the question on Jon Stewart's behavior at this point in time, what with the horrifying situation this country is in
at this moment, he clearly should not have done what he did. It just has a "Comey" ring to it. No? The stakes are too high!

moniss

(9,056 posts)
17. Most of what made Jon Stewart was the other people around him.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:34 AM
Sep 2024

Most everybody here could sit at a desk and read sarcastic takes on news items. Especially when much of it is written by others. The "correspondents" on the show were always much more talented than Stewart. People have short memories also about the actual career history of people like Maher and Stewart and if you look back there are plenty of sexist jokes as well. But these big showbiz types pretend later on like it never happened. They pretend they didn't know about Weinstein etc. Pure BS and they act like he was the only one and that now it's all gone away now that "Harvey" is gone. Does anybody think the American people swallow the line of BS that "nobody really knew" or "nobody really talked about it"?

Decades and decades of jokes and vitriol at trans people and after decades of damage they come along and say "Sorry about that" and expect we should all just fade it away? BS. They are both "comedians" who are opportunistic abusers of whatever groups or particular people that society will stomach being demeaned and even encourage for ridicule and demonizing at any particular point.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
18. Stewart is always Both Sides Same.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:37 AM
Sep 2024

People think Bill Maher and Stewart are the same, but they aren't. Maher criticizes "progressives" for things like Defund the Police and obsessing about pronouns and they get real mad; Stewart criticizes regular Democrats like Obama, Clinton, Biden, Harris as if they're same as Republicans.

Baitball Blogger

(52,346 posts)
19. There are about eight progressive celebrity influencers that I now go out of my way to ignore.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 06:50 AM
Sep 2024

He's one of them.

Netanyahu is the problem. He won't deescalate. Hamas won't deescalate. Hezbollah won't deescalate.

The Israeli voters had many opportunities to stop this by voting Netanyahu out. But they didn't. So, this is the result.

What a clusterfuck.

You know, if they can put bombs in pagers or phones, they could have also put in trackers and make individual controlled drone strikes.

Ex Lurker

(3,966 posts)
79. After the first few Hezbollah figures out they're being tracked and discards all electronic devices.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 07:13 PM
Sep 2024

This had to be a simultaneous strike for it to work, and it did. Devastatingly so.

Martin Eden

(15,629 posts)
21. The US should withold certain types of offensive weapons
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 07:39 AM
Sep 2024

Such as the bombs which have killed 40,000 in Gaza.

The Israeli government has flouted US policy and international law for decades. While we have long advocated for a Two State solution, Israel has essentially made that impossible with facts on the ground by building settlements in the West Bank. Since Oct 7, displacement and violence against Palestinians there has increased.

Our aid should not be unconditional. As Netanyahu expands the war it is plain to see he has no intention of seeking a cease fire, rendering our efforts futile.

I understand that domestic politics plays a large role in Biden's decision making here. The upcoming election is likely the most important in our lifetimes. I trust his administration has this in mind as the highest priority. If altering our support for the current Israeli government would put a November victory at risk, then I agree we need to stay the course.

But it's understandable why so many are upset we continue to supply the weapons that are slaughtering tens of thousands of civilians in Gaza and expanding the war in Lebanon.

It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway:

In no way do I support Hamas or their poisonous murderous ideology. Those who support their cause are fools, or evil.

But what's happened in Gaza is a humanitarian catastrophe in which we are complicit.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
22. So can you answer his question without ad hominems?
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:19 AM
Sep 2024

Why is Israel doing an all out attack on Lebanon with US supplied weapons when we are working tirelessly for a ceasefire Gaza? It isn’t a question we like, or a reality that’s fun. But what’s the answer?

To put this into an electoral context: Michigan has 82,000 politically active Lebanese Americans (In addition to the 160,000 Palestinian Americans). They usually vote Democratic every election. Now, Israel is attacking their families and friends with US supplied weapons under a Democratic president. What are the chances they all vote Democratic this year, and can you honestly blame them if they don’t?

FYI

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
25. The answer is you try to get a cease fire, but neither side really wants one. As for your ""context" in Michigan, you
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:29 AM
Sep 2024

also have significant numbers in Michigan and other critical states that have other views.

It isn't a "ad hominem". The election is a month an a half away, and any major shift in foreign policy this close to the election, can affect the election outcome, and no one can predict which way, especially in an election this close.








ColinC

(11,098 posts)
31. Your answer is good. Thank you. And I agree completely!
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:42 AM
Sep 2024

The “ad hominem” I was referring to was “Fuck you John Stewart!”

But again, great answer and absolutely true. And I just want to take this moment to add my own ad hominem for Netanyahu and the terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas that profit from and sanction these atrocities while avoiding harms way almost the entire time:

Fuck em all

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
43. 57% of Lebanese Americans voted for Hillary.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Sep 2024

That's higher than a lot of demos but still a lot lower than Jews, AAs and others. There are 120k Jews in MI BTW.

link

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
46. If that happens again we could lose Michigan again
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:34 AM
Sep 2024

69% of Arab Americans voted for Biden (not sure about Lebanese specifically).

Edit: looked it up and saw this is identical to the Jewish vote in 2020.

BUT your point stands. Even more so if you count voters in the rest of the country.

Cha

(319,076 posts)
70. Thanks for that... I was wondering how many Ukrainians are in
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:07 PM
Sep 2024

Michigan... Google says 36,335.

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
23. Jon Stewart is clearly not the man he was
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:37 AM
Sep 2024

Moved on from him. He was funny. Now he's clearly past it and needs to step down an let a deep bench of comedians take his place while there's still time.

RT Atlanta

(2,741 posts)
40. Seconded
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:21 AM
Sep 2024

J.S. has definitely lost a step (from my perspective) on his show; he has been a phenomenal advocate for matters like the 9/11 first responders and would rather him concentrate his time like that.

We're in an 'all hands on deck' situation and J.S. shouldn't be dumping on President Biden (again in my opinion).

SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
27. Anyone else notice
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:37 AM
Sep 2024

that Stewy referred to Biden as the former President and not the President? That's blatantly disrespectful.

randr

(12,648 posts)
28. The more important issue is
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:39 AM
Sep 2024

Was he wrong or right!
Why are we not allowed to criticize while, as he points out, the harshest of the criticism comes from within Israel.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
33. Why aren't we allowed to criticize Jon Stewart? Stewart, Maher, etc. have always said what they want.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:56 AM
Sep 2024

To your question "was he right or wrong"?

Is Biden really doing nothing, or does he just eat ice cream cones, as stewart portrays?

Stewart is giving an editorial opinion, and using a public medium to do that, and everyone has a right to express a view on his comments.




randr

(12,648 posts)
36. I have no problem criticizing any of the pundits
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:04 AM
Sep 2024

They all act childish at time but I know better than to shoot the messenger.
Every death from a bomb I have paid for is on me. I am sick and tired of it.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
41. Then we agree that criticisms pro or con are fair game. Biden will not be President next year, it will either be
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:26 AM
Sep 2024

VP Harris or trump, and a conflict that has been going on for sometime is not easily resolved.

The closest we came to a Middle East peace agreement was when Clinton had a blueprint for a path to a two-state solution just before he left office. When bush became president, instead of continuing where Clinton had left off, his administration completely ignored the entire situation.

9/11 happened, and the entire middle east became even more destabilized, and nothing has effectively happened to try and remedy the Israeli/Palestinian situation since then.

My view is Jon Stewart making President Biden look like a buffoon, is not funny, not true, and not helpful.


randr

(12,648 posts)
65. Anything that spurs the people of this country to get concerned enough
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 01:20 PM
Sep 2024

to push our elected people do something other than deliver lip service is called for.
The wake up call needs to be delivered. We are paying for the war and we must call upon those in power to end it.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
67. Making fun of Biden helps no situation, except perhaps encouraging uncommitted voters to not bother voting.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 02:15 PM
Sep 2024

That game was played in 2016, and in case no one noticed, all the positive accomplishment that President Obama did in that region were undone by trump.

To think that Biden would be able to undo the damage that trump did during his four years, is at best naive with the makeup of a Congress we have.

Sympthsical

(10,969 posts)
30. There are many jackasses in this world
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:41 AM
Sep 2024

But Stewart isn't one of them. I haven't seen the segment in question yet - it sounds like I probably won't agree with him.

And that's ok. People can disagree and still have respect for one another. I generally think Stewart has a fairly clear-eyed view of events. Generally. Sometimes he goes afield from where I am. Sometimes I think he has a bad take.

His weekly podcast is interesting. He gets two guests and they dig in a little more deeply on topics than usual. And oftentimes his guests are lesser known media or academic figures - not the usuals who always make the talk show or cable news rounds.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
35. I disagree. Effectively blaming Biden for what is happening, and saying Biden is doing nothing, is stewart
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:01 AM
Sep 2024

being a jackass in my opinion.

President Biden will not be President next year, it will either be VP Harris or trump.

and his smug sarcasm does not help any situation, except perhaps to encourage one-issue uncommitted voters NOT to vote for VP Harris.




Cha

(319,076 posts)
72. Sounds like Stewart is a "Jackass" to me.. I just read on here
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 03:20 PM
Sep 2024

That Stewart referred to Pres Biden as the Former President. Tell me tha's not being a Mean Spirited JACKASS.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
32. I'm sure they are trying to get a ceasefire.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:47 AM
Sep 2024

But Netayahu is an obstreperous piece of shit, so it's probably impossible. He won't be satisfied until he controls the entire gaping crater.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
44. There is no doubt that Netanyahu is a major obstacle to this situation, but portraying Biden as a buffoon is false,
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:30 AM
Sep 2024

disrespectful, and not helpful the the situation.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
69. It is.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 02:22 PM
Sep 2024

I have been disgusted with how Biden has been treated throughout this, by so many, mostly in the media.

He is not a doddering old man who can't do anything. That is simply untrue and unfair. It's incredibly ageist.

Whether or not he can accomplish a ceasefire is probably not entirely up to him, either, given the players involved.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
34. I've been over Jon Stewart for a long, long time.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:58 AM
Sep 2024

He's not funny and he's not realistic or informed enough to trust his politics. He should have stayed retired.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
42. I can't, in good conscience, say more than when I have read the same criticisms on DU-
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:27 AM
Sep 2024

Biden is President of the US, not Israel.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
48. That is because I neglected to provide context. Biden spoke on all the issues, including the Israeli/Palestinian
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 10:51 AM
Sep 2024

situation, and condemned the civilian killings and expansion, repeated his demand for an immediate ceasefire, release of all hostages, and self-determination for the Palestinians, and a two-state solution.

It is pretty clear that Netanyahu is trying to sabotage any peace negotiations, and to me it is pretty clear he is doing it to avoid accountability, and would like to see trump in the WH.



sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
49. Yes Biden has done all that
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:00 AM
Sep 2024

But those criticizing him (whether Stewart or here) seem to think he can just tell Israel to stop and they have to obey. Thus, my reply...

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
50. It's time for a reliever. Hand over the ball
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:13 AM
Sep 2024

Preferably a lefty reliever.

JS can go fuck himself.

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
51. Stewart has tried to how an audience from the center
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:21 AM
Sep 2024

He abandoned his liberal rhetoric long ago

returnee

(926 posts)
54. There are a lot of dirty hands...
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:24 AM
Sep 2024

…trying to make Biden, and by extension Harris, look bad. I think much of it is a concerted effort from the outset. I smell collusion. Stewart is most likely just being an ass independently.

Groundhawg

(1,218 posts)
56. I'm disappointed in Stewart, but he is a comedian. They cut off a ton of material if they exclude their targets
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 11:30 AM
Sep 2024

Based on political affiliation.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
63. K&R for, thank you - irks me he has a large following here.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 12:05 PM
Sep 2024

Never liked The Daily Show and other such that pandered to what we already knew and agreed with, never saw a complete show. At first I took him at face value that he was a good Lib, where he mostly targeted wingnuts, and when he occasionally zinged Libs I gave the pass that he's a comedian objectively hitting at whoever needed it. But I was puzzled when he scuttled CNN's Crossfire. His fans at this late date still claim his focus was all just against F***er CARLSON, but he took down the whole show. But my puzzlement increased and went to suspicion when he started making nice with O'LOOFAH and Glen BecKKK. The last straw was when BecKKK staged a phony event supposedly about "uniting" everybody and then STEWART did a copycat thing that we all thought was going to zing at wingnuts but was some kind of Hippie/RenaissanceFair ripoff, with bubbles and the Mythbuster wimps. Although MAHER ain't popular here (including by me), he said, "If you're going to have an event it needs to be *ABOUT* something." I was glad when he left and had the impression that COLBERT puts up with him from an oppressed friendship. But I have skipped anything from or about him dating back to the BecKKK thing. And I've settled on the conclusion that he's some kind of Third Way/No Labels type, always lecturing/sermonizing/patronizing/condescending.




MiKenMi33

(231 posts)
64. Last night's episode was it for me!
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 12:18 PM
Sep 2024

I really like him several years ago and was happy when I learned he was coming back. I watched the first episode and was disappointed. I continued to watch until last night. That was it for me! I don’t know what his problem is with Biden but he’ll no longer be on my TV screen.

Biophilic

(6,552 posts)
76. Was there a time when Americans stood behind their leader(s) in difficult times?
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 07:03 PM
Sep 2024

Are we just not capable of being decent patriotic Americans?

Eko

(9,993 posts)
80. I think Jon stewart is right.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 09:10 PM
Sep 2024

Why aren't we doing more? Why aren't we cutting off aid to Israel when they violate our rules all the time and just seems like they don't care?

The U.S. government’s two foremost authorities on humanitarian assistance concluded this spring that Israel had deliberately blocked deliveries of food and medicine into Gaza.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=19497353
Why?
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