Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

wcmagumba

(6,179 posts)
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 02:32 PM Sep 2024

So, the US and other western nations won't allow Ukraine to use the already supplied long range missiles...

for targets inside Russia, why not help them build their own with parts and technology? I know, not much difference but still...I say F**k Puti Pute and his hollow threats of nuking the west, just let Ukraine use the damn missiles we gave them...

9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
So, the US and other western nations won't allow Ukraine to use the already supplied long range missiles... (Original Post) wcmagumba Sep 2024 OP
The West does not want Ukraine to win the war. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #1
I'm curious what you think the West's motivation is Sky Jewels Sep 2024 #2
Deplete Russian resources, weaken Putin. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #3
Lots of statements. No proof of what you aver. Stinky The Clown Sep 2024 #4
FACTS, pattern analysis, logical thinking, behavioral observations. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #5
When you have educated yourself with the facts, I will be happy to discuss further. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #7
You insult me but still no proof Stinky The Clown Sep 2024 #8
You seem to have lots of inside information sarisataka Sep 2024 #6
After the election. Timing's everyting. SupportSanity Sep 2024 #9

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
1. The West does not want Ukraine to win the war.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:02 PM
Sep 2024

They only give Ukraine enough to deplete Russia's resources.

The West does not care how many Ukrainians die as long as the they
carry out the US agenda.

US CIA and military intelligence keep telling the West that Putin is bluffing
about nukes.

The West just uses the threat of Putin nukes as an excuse not to let Ukraine to win
the war. US generals are angry and sad.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
2. I'm curious what you think the West's motivation is
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:09 PM
Sep 2024

for not wanting Ukraine to win. What is the agenda, according to your theory?

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
3. Deplete Russian resources, weaken Putin.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:18 PM
Sep 2024

But we can't upset Putin too much.
We must keep Putin semi-happy.

The US pretends it is terrified of Putin using nukes.
CIA and military intel keeps saying this is ridiculous.
Putin is not going to sign his own death warrant.

The US wants to damage Putin, drain Russian reserves.
And deplete his military arsenal. This can be done by giving
Ukraine just enough to keep the war going for years.
We are heading for the third year.

It doesn't matter the cost to Ukraine civilians.

We could help Ukraine win the war quickly.
US point blank refuses to do it.

Europe wants cheap Russian oil and doesn't want to anger Putin too much.
They don't care about the deaths in Ukraine.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
5. FACTS, pattern analysis, logical thinking, behavioral observations.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:32 PM
Sep 2024

The facts support my conclusion.

The US refuses to let Zelensky win this war.

Irish_Dem

(81,271 posts)
7. When you have educated yourself with the facts, I will be happy to discuss further.
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:37 PM
Sep 2024

It is a fact that the US and Europe have deliberately dragged their feet helping Ukraine.
And only give them enough to keep the war going, not win it.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
6. You seem to have lots of inside information
Tue Sep 24, 2024, 04:34 PM
Sep 2024

Should you really be posting such sensitive intelligence on a public message board?

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So, the US and other west...