I'm so depressed. Forecast high for Saturday is 113. ***UPDATE EVEN WORSE! ***

[Coventina]

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Phoenix wasn't always like this.

By this time, growing up, I needed a sweater in the mornings and evenings.

113 and it's almost October.

The planet is burning up and we pretend like everything's fine.

ON EDIT: Yesterday was 113. Saturday's forecast is now 115. Dear god in heaven.....

[wcmagumba]

1. Dam that's hot, stay safe...

[kairos12]

2. I'm with you. We

got fooled there for a moment. It's back to blazing up through Halloween.

[cilla4progress]

3. I feel you,

Coventina.

There's a long road ahead.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

4. After last week I thought we were done for the summer...

Oh well, it was nice for a week.

[underpants]

5. Did you all get a break in the streak of +100 degree days?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

74. We had about a week

It was in the 60s at night last week. Highs around 90.

[Xavier Breath]

6. You have my condolences.

I sat out in the sun last Saturday at a football game where it was 90 and I thought that was horrible, especially since it was the first day of Autumn. Clearly I had little reason to complain.

I experienced 110 once on a late July day in Las Vegas. I don't know how people do it. I guess sometimes they don't, sadly.

[Jerry2144]

17. 110 here is rough.

But we got 120 twice this summer. That’s horrible. We’re further north than Phoenix and higher altitude so it’s not quite as bad. But it’s rough and we’re expecting above 100 here in Vegas, hotter on the Strip.

100 degree weather is supposed to end shortly after Labor Day. But it looks like our will go on into October.

Climate change is a myth according to Fox. These abnormal high temperatures are just in your mind or a statistical fluke.

[True Dough]

76. I know a Fox viewer

who insists that climate change is occurring because the tilt of the Earth's access is changing, not because of any human activities or carbon dioxide. Not sure if that theory came directly from Fox but I would not be surprised.

[mokeyz]

81. i live in Vegas too

last year the month of June was glorious and this year almost unbearable - a full month more of 100°+ days - who knows what 2025 will bring but it’s really scary.

[Jerry2144]

83. Forecasting over 100

For the first week of October. Hard to believe. We should be breaking out our light jackets for cooler weather. Instead, it’ll be 100ish for the next ten days.

Monsoon season almost set a record for being driest this year

[ShazzieB]

58. I don't know how they do it, either.

I can't stand to be outside in the sun when it's over 90, unless I'm immersed in a swimming pool.Tbh, anything over 85 is pushing it for me. I get physically ill from heat very easily.

I am absolutely positive that I could not survive in Texas. Because you have to go outside at some point, even if it's just to take out the trash or check the mail.

I don't like cold, snowy winters, either, but cold is the lesser of two evils for me.

[Xavier Breath]

66. For most of my life it was a common theme for people in warm climates

friends and family and such, to make fun of people like myself for having to deal with winters. Ohio isn't Buffalo or Michigan's UP mind you, and I liked our winters, so that sort of talk never bothered me. I have always enjoyed having the four distinct seasons. I mean, the idea of burning my shorts-exposed leg on a hot car seat on Christmas morning just never much appealed to me. So, to each his own. But I'm wondering if living in Michigan, Minnesota and similar points north is going to start to look better and better as the years progress.

[hlthe2b]

7. I know it is not Phoenix, but this has been the hottest (at least in extended days) summer I remember in Colorado

We are having a bit of a respite now, but damn. Heat like that makes me murderous (and I'm only being a little hyperbolic)... But, even if we don't set the extreme heat record, we have our wildfires to add to the trauma...

So, I can certainly sympathize.

[colorado_ufo]

42. Western Colorado here -

and I agree!

[Think. Again.]

8. I'm so sorry...

...that you have to be one of the first to experience the loss of our shared home firsthand like this.

We all will suffer the same loss sooner than we're willing to admit, but of course I know that's no comfort to you as you watch your environment die around you.

[Frasier Balzov]

9. How is the water situation?

Any relief from the drought during the past year?

[Coventina]

10. No, but our Democratic governor has reigned in some of the worst water wasting practices.

We will run out at some point, but it will take a while.

[get the red out]

11. Hotter in KY too

It was still in the upper 80s (and low 90s) for highs until it started raining yesterday and today. I should be in long sleeves anyway. I couldn't go home from college for about a month in the fall of my freshman year at UK (back in 1982), so I didn't have my cold weather clothes. I had to go buy a sweatshirt at the bookstore to keep from freezing at marching band practice. That wouldn't have been much later than now.

[maspaha]

14. I was with you at UK in 1982!

And you’re exactly right! I lived in an UNair-conditioned dorm that year…Patterson Hall.

I miss Kentucky in the fall…it’s beautiful!

[Redleg]

20. It used to be nice in the fall

This fall it has been especially muggy and fairly hot, at least up in the northern part of the state. Fall is my favorite season here but this fall hasn't been that great, barely a break from our hot and muggy summer.

[jimfields33]

26. Fall has only been 2 days.

Give it a minute.

[Redleg]

28. You are right- I have grown impatient

Right now we have severe thunderstorms, so that's a change.

[jimfields33]

85. Fall especially around thanksgiving is my absolute favorite time of the year.

[Redleg]

90. Mine too- I used to enjoy a nice walk after Thanksgiving dinner

The brisk air, the autumn sunlight.

[get the red out]

84. I lived in Donovan Hall

Also unairconditioned. I love fall too!

[Ananda62]

12. I empathize

I’m in Las Vegas. While it’s not as hot as Phoenix, the continuation of mid-90 degree weather this late (and into October) is making me consider moving.

[orwell]

13. Same story here...

...NorCal (Lake County) 2 hours north of the Bay Area and it is 100 degrees right now at 12:30.

It gets hot here in summer but this one was something else. The temps were over 100 for months.

But don't worry. dRump's answer is to cut alternative power subsidies and "Drill Baby Drill."

What could go wrong?

[AllaN01Bear]

15. ""

[kozar]

16. Stay safe,

I grew up in ND, my Dad always told me,
" yeah, it's cold, put on a sweater because, if it was 100 outside, you would be naked, and still, hot" and he was a letter carrier, back in the day, When , the walked their routes, I listened.

Koz

[3catwoman3]

21. Funny and true.

I've long said that there is always another layer you can put on, but there a limit to what you can take off.

[ShazzieB]

52. Yes!

I say that all the time!

[LeftInTX]

18. I'm sorry. It's been unseasonably hot and humid in Texas too. Fortunately, the humidity is gonna drop tonight.

Cold front = decreased humidity. Daytime highs will remain about the same. Lows are forecast for the high 60's.

But I know how cabin fever from heat is!!! It's different than cabin fever from cold. It's persistent. Around here, you continue your usual chores, such as grocery shopping...OK... (Fortunately our carts don't burn up because they're in the shade and 100 degrees won't burn them up)

But then you water your lawn and it kills you...Out of commission the next day
And then you need to exercise...But the AC in the gym isn't low enough...

I walk...And it's draining. I only walk about a mile. (I probably would only swim in AZ, but then going swimming is PITA unless you have a pool, but a pool is a PITA to maintain) So, I'm lacking energy from aerobic activity/exercise and I descend into brain fog etc.

Political activities are extremely difficult in the heat. I hate attending outdoor rallies and protests. It doesn't bother some people, but I melt. I'm also a precinct chair and I canvass during the heat. Once again, it totally wears you out.

About the only "outdoor" activities that are normal in Texas summers are shopping. But we don't live on shopping alone!
Everything else is a big draining chore!

[3catwoman3]

19. Our older son moved to Phoenix in 2018...

...to be with the young woman who is now his wife. She is a Phoenix native. We live in the greater Chicago area. She, thus far, has no interest in living in the Midwest.

I worry about them. He says the heat doesn't bother him until it get above 105. I know it a dry heat there, but that's still damn hot.

[PortTack]

22. My daughter moved there in the late 90's. Rent wasn't outrageous, neither was the climate.

It’s sad to visit and see the extreme changes.

[Torchlight]

23. It's a real drag.

We're having our first full week of less than 100 degree days of the season in north central TX. The dog days always seem to last an extra day or two every year I get older.

[Evolve Dammit]

24. Just thinking that today as well. We have failed miserably and show no signs of any meaningful change. Dammit.

[jimfields33]

25. I'd take that over the hurricane we're getting Thursday.

[AZ8theist]

31. Yes, we can take steps to protect from the heat.....

But there's not a damn thing you can do to stop a hurricane...

Please stay safe.

(My brother and SIL are right in the path on the Gulf coast. Yet they always just shrug it off....... )

[Arne]

33. Storm's a commin and it's 92 on the gulf coast.

It will be north of us but powerful.

[mike_c]

27. that short respite a couple days ago was nice

The other eight months are almost here!

[BeneteauBum]

29. Climate change

People are flabbergasted when I say climate change is my number one worry. For me, it overshadows politics, the economy, immigration, and health care. We all need to be in the alarm mode to accelerate actions to ameliorate our ongoing harm to Gaia. Trump won’t act or even acknowledge this issue. We need to keep moving forward with an administration that will address climate change issues. That would be Kamala in this election…..vote for her. Peace ☮️

[rurallib]

30. My aunt lived there in the 1950s and 60s. My not to be relied on memory

recalls that their temps were mostly in the 90s.

Damn sight less people there also. Maybe half a million?

[Elessar Zappa]

34. 106,000 in 1950, 439,000 in 1960. Quite a jump that decade.

[rurallib]

38. I think the price of a room AC came down to a level people could afford

I seem to recall we got AC somewhere @ 1960

[mike_c]

61. swamp coolers (evaporative coolers) worked best at low humidity

Our house in the West Valley was built in 1963. We replaced the roof, and removed the sixty year old swamp cooler, last spring. I hope we never need it again!

[HagathaCrispy]

32. Not cooling off at night as before. A lot of it is the expanded UHI effect.

The urban heat island effect is much more pronounced at night since all the cars and concrete forming on all that heat in the day can't let it cool off at night. Since PHX has no trees or vegetation it's much more pronounced in that town and since it's grown like 100% every few decades it's even worse. To the effect of 7 degrees in 50 years. Same with Vegas

[Mosby]

86. have you been to Phoenix?

Like the actual city? My central Phoenix neighborhood is filled with trees, shrubs, plants, flowers, and grass lawns. I have 7 trees just on my property.

[StarryNite]

35. You're right, it wasn't like this.

I grew up here and I'm old! And I can say for a fact it was never like this. It was even too hot up on the Rim for us to want to go camping this year. When our kids were little and we would go up there to camp during the summer we would be huddled around a campfire with our coats on and still be shivering. The past few years when we went up we barely needed a sweatshirt at night. I guess this is the new normal and I don't like it and frankly it scares me.

[kimbutgar]

43. My mother in law has lived there 30 years and she doesn't remember it being so hot this time of year.

It usually cools off by now to a comfortable 70-80 degrees.

She misses being able to visit us in chilly SF.

[StarryNite]

44. It's definitely not the same as it was even a few years ago.

[NJCher]

36. And idiot mayors like the one I have

Let the leaf blowers continue to pollute, even though the citizens enacted a ban. She vetoed it. Reason? Completely nonsensical. She is as undemocratic as trump.

It bothers me tremendously that suburban lawns in this state are being kept in such a fashion that is completely indifferent to what other people in the world are experiencing, and in particular, this heat.

[BonnieJW]

37. I grew up in Tucson.

I rode my bike to school September through May. It was very warm but not too warm to ride a bike. No one could do that now.

[samsingh]

39. you are absolutely right

the imbeciles that keep making excuses are going to destroy life on this planet.

[StarryNite]

40. Breaking records like crazy and still going.

In 2024, Phoenix, Arizona had 61 days that were 110°F or higher, breaking the previous record of 55 days in 2023. Phoenix also had 39 days with overnight lows of 90°F or higher, which was also a record.

Fall is my favorite "day" of the year here in Phoenix.

[kimbutgar]

41. My Mother in law lives there and she said she feels like a prisoner in her home.

And her fruit trees are all dying. She loved making her own orange and grapefruit juice and the heat has killed the trees even though she waters them all the time.

I was there in June and it was miserable. My sympathies go out for your enduring that hellish weather. It was 80 degrees in SF yesterday and people were complaining and I was laughing thinking if you lived in Phoenix you’d be dried up!

[markodochartaigh]

45. I know what you mean about the refreshing chill

after a hot day. I grew up in Amarillo Texas a half century ago, summer days were frequently above 100°, occasionally 110°-115°. But as soon as the sun went down the 10-20% humidity allowed the temperature to drop like a rock. Getting up at 5 or so the temperature would be in the 60's. Especially for older people with marginal a/c that cool off is very important.

[wendyb-NC]

46. That's surreal

Please, Coventina, take care of yourself. That is insane heat. I will send messages to beseech the universe to (quickly) modify the deadly heat and the cool air replaces it, and lingers.

[electric_blue68]

47. So sorry you all are enduring this. Stay safe..

I was marching w others in DC for renewable energy back in the mid-late '80s. Not enough people listened.
😑

[LoisB]

48. Dang! I hope you can stay inside and stay cool. That is "killer" temp.

[LymphocyteLover]

49. Vote blue to save the freaking climate!!! FFS it's insane a climate change denier is competitive in his election

[DownriverDem]

50. Not all of us

pretend everything is fine. We have been screaming about climate change for years. repubs just say it's not because of human activity and trump says it's a hoax. repubs are the puppet masters of corp business interests.

[Upthevibe]

51. Coventina......

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I'm so sorry this is happening.....

Hot weather makes me depressed too and it also makes me sick. I have Fibromyalgia. I can not be in heat. I have to stay indoors with the A/C and a fan literally blowing on my face.

I live in SoCal but last Summer I was in TX. It was horrible but there was A/C where I was. We really couldn't go outside to do anything except errands like grocery shopping. It was awful.

Even in SoCal it's been hot but I'm so fortunate that I have a portable A/C in my bedroom with my fan. I don't know how the planet and its people will survive the way things are going. It's frightening.

........Sending positive vibes your way........

[canetoad]

53. I really feel for you

Having lived with this kind of weather in the past. However, due to climate change we are going into our fourth La Nina in five years. Floods or fire. It's one or the other.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

54. I lived in Tucson from 1962-1969.

I later lived in Phoenix 1987-1990.

It's always been hot there. I remember overnight lows in Phoenix in the high 90s. Yeah, there is climate change and global warming, but we've been warned about this for several decades now.

So I don't understand why people are shocked, just shocked that it's hot and the oceans are rising.

[bikes and bunnies]

55. Stop Driving Gas Cars

Switch to EV's, electric bikes or scooters, or old fashioned bicycles.

That includes you, Tim Walz.
Gas cars are a Highway to Hell.

[Coventina]

57. One of my students almost died a few days ago, due to riding his bike (heat stroke)

People in the lower income brackets can't buy EVs, and waiting for the bus can also give you heat stroke.

It's not that easy.

[bikes and bunnies]

69. Used EV's are as cheap as gas cars

I'm in a lower income bracket.

I don't go to restaurants or travel any more.
I'm thrifty, so I can afford taking steps to save the planet.

In an emergency, like our climate emergency, priorities change- or should change.

[Envirogal]

73. It's also the large gas guzzlers that Americans prefer

Sitting idling in a car waiting behind 15 other guzzlers for drive-thru everything.

Pollution, pillaging, waste and toxins, all to support 8 billion people and the elites that run it all. Pushing natural systems to their limits limits.

Population is the ground zero for all of this.

[True Dough]

77. Used EVs come with a disadvantage

Let's say you buy one that's 6 years old. The battery warranty is either gone or on the verge of expiring. So you could pay $25,000 for the used vehicle and then be facing a battery replacement not too long after that could be another $10,000 to $30,000, depending on the model.

Many people are unwilling to run that risk.

[bikes and bunnies]

88. Buy leased EV's when their 3 year lease is up

We did it twice: a Chevy Spark for $8300, with 10 K miles on it, and a Chevy Bolt for $17,600 (after Biden's 4K rebate- thanks, Biden!) with 14 K miles on it. No problems with the batteries.

People just make excuses for not doing the right thing.
We're in a climate catastrophe emergency, and should act accordingly.

Otherwise, don't complain when the hellfire of climate collapse rains down on us.

[bikes and bunnies]

89. Also- you can buy full warranties on used EV's from the dealer

We didn't, but it's an option.

[Emile]

56. but it's a dry heat!

That's the words from my father after he retired and moved from Illinois to Tucson, Arizona.

[Coventina]

59. I will straight up murder the next person who says that to me.

dry heat kills

We've had record heat deaths here this year.

[Ray Bruns]

78. Boooooo!

https://m.

[surfered]

62. I think Phoenix will become unlivable in the summer

[enid602]

63. IPhone

I have an iPhone. The iPhone weather app shows 108 F for Saturday high in PHX. I’ll go with the iPhone forecast.

[Coventina]

65. This is a very large metropolitan area, with as much as 10 degree differences in places.

My neighborhood is forecast for 113.

[Grown2Hate]

64. Yeah, it's INSANE. We're doing a homemade pizza party Saturday. I guess we can use the pool at least?

Trying to find a bright side (maybe 'silver lining' is a better use here).

[MLF1981]

67. It was 96 here yesterday...

East Tennessee. Not at all normal for the end of September.

[drmeow]

68. I remember the first time

the temperature in Tempe did not go below 100 overnight - although AZ Central claims the highest low was 97 degrees. That 100 degree temperature must not have been the official Sky Harbor temperature - but I remember talking about it.

[pansypoo53219]

70. only some areas seem to notice the change. i felt the switch in 1985 + science say that is it. milw, wi.

but we have LESS heat. the northwest was frying + we didn't hit 90f. great lake polar weather sucking machine.

[FormerOstrich]

71. Me, too!

I am in Chandler. I have lived here since 1994.

The heat starts sooner, ends later, and it doesn't cool off at night as a desert should. Plus, our monsoon storms have become almost non-existent.

Last summer I lost so many of my plants some of which have been here since I moved here. I didn't lose as many this year mainly because there were less to lose after last year. However, my honeysuckle and a few that persevered last year couldn't take it this year.....there just wasn't enough time to rebound. The cactus are suffering, too.

I went to Cottonwood for the weekend and it was still really warm there, too. Came back through Strawberry and Payson. Saw too many Trump signs....just as depressing as the temps.

I hadn't heard the forecast....kinda wish I still hadn't.

[demosincebirth]

72. I wonder who was the first person, ever, to settle there?

[Coventina]

75. Native Americans lived here in ancient times. Built the canal system we still use.

That civilization collapsed, likely due to drought, soil exhaustion, or both.

Other Native Americans arrived later, and then the Spanish.

People have lived here for a long time.

[hatrack]

79. And salt buildup in the soil . . .

I remember living out in Tempe when I was a kid.

Casa Grande and Montezuma Castle really made an impression on me (so did earwigs and cacti!).

[Roc2020]

80. Some are pretending not all

problem is there are so many competing threats alongside climate change that climate seems the easiest to ignore. And that threat may be the worse.

[NowISeetheLight]

82. Same Stuff Here in Palm Springs

I feel for you. About 10 days ago they were saying we'd have two or three days of triple digits, then cooling. Suddenly it's eight days and 107-111. What happened???

[Number9Dream]

87. Trump said global warming is a Chinese hoax - but no TV ads noting those words