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If you're in the Arts, or you work for a non-profit organization, you have to spend a certain amount of time sucking up to the Rich. I happen to be an playwright who works at a non-profit NYC food drive to make a living, and so I've done a bit of both. I've gone to Gala benefits where folks in gowns and tuxedos munched on caviar and bid on luxury cars and round-the-world trips. I've written sycophantic letters to foundations and have spent my fair share of time buttering up important so-and-sos in order to win precious grants and awards to continue my life's work.
And you know what? Some of those people actually give a damn.
Some of them grew up poor, and having obtained wealth at some point, are spending their twilight years helping those who need it the most. Some of them grew up rich, but have a conscience, or idealize the bohemian lifestyle. In any case, what they're doing with their money is a very vital part of any success I've had in life, financially and creatively. Now you might say, "Yes, but aren't you basically begging for their table scraps? Shouldn't our modern society have a better way of supporting artists and feeding starving children than making you get on your knees and appeal to the sympathy of the 1%?"
Yes, it probably should. Our government should do more. Hell, everybody should do more. But they aren't. And people in need of help now really can't sit around and wait for our sociopolitical system to change sometime in the future.
Classical arts like ballet and opera have always been particularly in need of philanthropists, because their art form is so expensive and the majority of Americans have neither the money nor the inclination to enjoy them. You might be the mistake of thinking that these art forms merely exist to entertain the wealthy in our society--except the singers and dancers and musicians involved LOVE what they do, and most of them are far from rich. Most have no illusions of EVER being rich. (i actually know a few, so I can attest to this.)
Now--did you know whose name is on third largest theater at Lincoln Center, which regularly stages both ballet and opera? David L. Koch. Yes, THAT David L. Koch. He's giving them $100 million over the next 10 years, and had the theater completely renovated. I can't stand the guy, and would never call him a good person. But I wouldn't boycott attending performances at the theater that bears his name, and I wouldn't turn down the opportunity to have my work performed there if I was lucky enough to be invited. And I'm not wealthy either.
Philanthropy is the primary reason why I'm not in the habit of making sweeping generalizations about whether the wealthiest Americans are actually evil people or not. I'm all in favor of taxing them and making them pay their fair share, but on occasion they've been known to put all of that extra money of theirs to good use. It doesn't cancel out bad deeds should they commit them, but it does let you know that there's sometimes more to the 1% of our society than all-encompassing greed.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Philanthropy is like karma, there aren't stripes to be worn about one's sleeves as a result.
Norrin Radd
(4,959 posts)is that it isn't democratic. When very few people control/hoard most of the money, all of us don't get to decide how it is applied and/or divvied.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)massive tax breaks for doing so. I'm not sure how philanthropic their noblesse oblige really is, at the root. I think they do it more to have some editorial control over the message, as well as the tax cuts, of course.
edited to add links:
http://observer.com/2010/09/could-david-koch-be-calling-the-shots-on-pbss-emnovaem/
http://watchdogprogressive.com/2011/04/the-curious-case-of-nova-and-david-h-koch/
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Koch has ballet and opera, we have classic rock tribute bands. Whatever.
Bicoastal
(12,645 posts)People who claim these things are elitist and restrictive often spend just as much on tickets at stadium rock concerts and sporting events. It's not like they'll throw you out if your pants don't match your coat or your last name isn't Rockefeller. Anyone CAN go, but less choose to--probably because they've been conditioned to be afraid of it.
I'm not even sure what you're getting at when you call it non-art museum-ware. Last time I checked, many museums contain art.
I've just dumped 100 million gallons of toxic sludge into the river so that I don't have to pay to have it removed, oh and here is a check for $100 for the food bank.
I don't know how to get the sarcasm smilie thingy.
Bicoastal
(12,645 posts)...but come on, we both know that not everyone who gives to food banks is a Montgomery Burns type, and not all Monty Burns types give to food banks.
I'm not trying to say that doing good things absolves you of responsibility for bad things. Despite the fact that he gave Carnegie Hall to New York, Carnegie was still an awful human being. I just feel broad-brushing people, even those who fart silver dollars and wipe their asses with 100 dollar bills, is just unfair. If YOU had that money, isn't that what you'd want to do with it?
handmade34
(24,017 posts)just another form of control... I understand your sentiment but until I can afford to go to the Opera and Ballet............
I see the philanthropy as just a way to ensure that the wealthy get what they want
edit to say that I support the Arts 110%... art and culture is what makes us human... but limiting access is wrong and evil
OneGrassRoot
(23,953 posts)There are some wealthy people with a conscience. In fact, there are groups of 1%'ers who are advocating to have their taxes raised.
Responsible Wealth is one such group: http://faireconomy.org/responsible_wealth
The word "philanthropy" is, unfortunately, starting to trigger a knee-jerk response in me. So often it seems to be about tax write-offs, not authentic generosity. Those engaged in large-scale philanthropy are not impacted whatsoever by their donation, in the sense that they don't go without anything as a result of it. They don't have to give up their fifth vacation home or yacht or private plane just because they made a multimillion dollar donation.
On the other hand, I fully understand that those who are in need, be it for food or the arts, depend upon this generosity, regardless of the donors' intentions.
For me, it's also a matter of weighing the pros and cons of working with someone, or with an organization or business. No one is perfect. We each have to set our boundaries. Personally, I'd have a really hard time doing anything that involved one of the Koch Brothers but, again, I hear what you're saying.
Bottom line, we need more justice, not charity. We have to do the best we can each day and do what we can live with, I suppose.
I'm looking for deep-pocketed supporters of Wishadoo in order to launch a few huge projects which benefit many, many people throughout the country. I'm not going to find a perfect partner, so I must weigh the pros and cons, and see my role as offering them opportunities to keep moving in the right direction, toward more empathy, compassion and cooperation, less cut-throat competition and greed.
TomClash
(11,344 posts)They are buying goodwill, like the gratefulness you understandably exhibit here.
They buy the right to attend events and those can lead to other meetings leading to deals.
They buy a community where the common people don't bother them, where uncommon discussions can take place with like minded people.
lame54
(39,772 posts)and also the candidates that want to kill it
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)The 1% could all be great people, but income and wealth inequality is still corrosive and destructive to society. Excessive income inequality causes more damage than they could ever hope to give back.
99Forever
(14,524 posts).. NEED decent housing and food. They NEED a chance at some self-respect. They NEED a planet that isn't being polluted to it's death.
"The arts" are a good thing, but when your basic NEEDS aren't being met, "the arts" aren't a substitute.
If you want to kiss the 1% ass, that is your choice, but if you are going to make excuses for their greed and immoral treatment of their fellow human beings, then expect to get some well deserved shit thrown at you.
We have millions of people homeless and dying from lack of medical care, with that number growing every day, and you want us to give the heartless, greedy bastards a pass because they finance YOUR lifestyle. Other than their wealth, you are different from them how?
Bicoastal
(12,645 posts)...in that I just refuse to lump them all into the same group. They are NOT all greedy and immoral. Not every single one, and I think people here know this. The language involved is starting to make my skin crawl, though...
When people say "the 1% should do this or that," I fully understand it. But when they start saying "the 1% are like this or that," suddenly everyone seems like a faceless statistic. it's wrong to dehumanize your political opponents whoever they may, and of course some of them ARE liberal--or else some liberal organizations wouldn't even exist. It's true--I depend on wealthy people such as producers and the heads of foundations (patrons of the arts) to get my shows off the ground. Should I give that all up and try passing the hat around here, so I can put the stuff on in my apartment complex basement? Should I find less high-falutin' dreams than success in live theater?
"Other than their wealth, you are different from them how?" From who? Line them up against the wall and tell me what they all have in common OTHER than their wealth. Buffet and Trump; Oprah and David Koch; the Kennedy family and the Walton family--there's often a world of difference.
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)Crap.
Just because youre getting a little wet, dont just assume its raining.
You are more likely getting pissed on for all they care...thank you sir may I have another...its just a fuckin tax write off to them on things THEY enjoy...
If they were really fucking philanthropist they would be supporting paying their fair share of taxes and stop stashing money in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes on that income.
Oh bully another kind and gentler The Rich are so caring to society story.
And that's just my opinion right?
Ruby the Liberal
(26,665 posts)he would have politely declined having it named for him.
Sorry, no quarter.