I hope Walz opens his debate with Vance with this..

[albacore]

"In the past few years, you've called trump a lot of names. You've said that 'trump is cultural heroin'....'trump is unfit for our nation's highest office'...'trump is America's Hitler'....'trump is a moral disaster'..
You said 'I'm a Never Trump guy'...

"And yet...here you are....Why would we trust anything you say now?"

[Easterncedar]

1. Hit him with a flip flop

Fire away!

[Enter stage left]

2. oh great, now I have a ear worm!

[LymphocyteLover]

16. that's a song?

[Enter stage left]

18. Hit me with your best shot, fire away!

[Easterncedar]

19. Yeah. That's what I have stuck in my head!

[orleans]

24. song begins 1:30 into video

[11 Bravo]

35. Pat Benatar. GREAT rock voice!

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

47. There's flip flops that are just people changing their minds and then there is THIS

I respect a "flip flop" that is someone changing their mind in light of new evidence, or someone like Kamala who is now representing/ balancing the needs of an entire nation instead of just a very blue slice of CA - who might choose to modify a position in light of having a different constituency. This used to be called "pivot," and it was considered a good thing.

But THIS.... this is a crazy extreme falling off a cliff version of flipf lop. how on EARTH can he explain it? Its a great question and i hope it gets asked.

[Aviation Pro]

3. I'd refer to him throughout the debate as "couch fucker"

Who cares if it is allegedly not true.

[Probatim]

22. Of course I'm lying about him having sex with couches but it forces the discussion and that's what we want.

Best turn of the phrase against Couchfuck McGee (thanks for the nickname Jeff T.).

[11 Bravo]

37. That would just be "creating a story" The couch fucker has already said that's just fine.

[erronis]

44. How do we know it's not true? If they deny it, then it must be true!

[Emile]

4. Perfect

[Jerry2144]

7. Coach Walz against Couch Vance

That battle of wits will be a bigger blowout than the Bills game this past Monday.

I’ve seen sharper bowling balls then Couch Vance

[calimary]

56. Dayum you're good!

I can’t decide which of those quips I like best! They’re ALL First Class, and they have the added luster of truth!

[Jerry2144]

57. Thank you

Hoping the debate gets called Coach vs Couch in the media

[calimary]

60. Well, I bet it takes off, at least here!

[Grammy23]

5. I am gonna go out on a limb

And predict that Walz will be armed with every contradictory statement Vance has ever uttered. Being a former football coach and high school teacher, Walz is no shrinking violet. I am actually looking forward to this debate. Vance will be prepped, too, but he might have met his match when Walz lets loose! Let the games begin!

[oldsoftie]

25. My brother thinks Vance is a bigger threat than trump. nt

[appalachiablue]

29. +1. Mike Malloy on Vance. Add in Opus Dei, Taliban

[FoxNewsSucks]

52. I couldn't agree more.

[Maru Kitteh]

38. Long term or just this election? For the record I disagree with both.

He's a drag on the ticket short term, and he doesn't have enough charisma even to entertain a MAGA audience - and those are a bunch of stupids looking to be entertained. Should be like playing tee-ball, but he's a complete failure. I doubt that portends of future danger from him.

[Nittersing]

42. There's a fair amount of talk on the intertubes

that the GOP plan is to elect drumph, remove him via amendment 25 and install Vance.

[ailsagirl]

50. OMG!!

[BComplex]

54. Those are the plans of the Project 2025 group. They aren't going to deal with chaotic trump when vance

is so much easier to control...and less volatile.

[oldsoftie]

49. See, thats how I feel. He doesnt have "it". He's a dullard.

MAGA needs to be stimulated ALL the time. Trump gives them that. He can't
However; some people think he took the VP slot because he'll 25th Amendment trump 1/2 way into his term.

[niyad]

48. Your brother is correct, because the orange thing will not last 4 months with

couchfucker. Orange is demented, and couchfucker is insane.

[OAITW r.2.0]

51. I am looking forward to this debate. Vance is gonna get de-pantsed big time.

It's going to move the needle another 1-3 points for Harris/Walz.

[central scrutinizer]

6. Ask him

“How many votes do you expect to get from Springfield, Ohio?

[TheFarseer]

8. It would be a mistake to make this your main argument

Make his private equity firm the centerpiece of your argument. Countless examples of how he profited off other people’s misery. Would farmers like him as much if they knew about Acre Trader? Would all the small town people angry about immigration see him differently if they knew about App Harvester? Maybe they would want to know about his ties to Big Tech, AI and crypto?

[Pinback]

28. Good points -- more on AcreTrader:

https://wegotthiscovered.com/news/is-jd-vance-really-profiting-off-of-the-uber-of-u-s-farmland-acretrader-explained/

[BoRaGard]

36. JD Vance's investments reveal contradictions with his political persona

He's such a fake. Such a liar. Such a republicon.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/08/jd-vance-financial-investments

"The most recent disclosure, which covers until the end of 2022, also showcases the peculiar preoccupations that Vance as an investor shared with a Thiel-adjacent network of rightwing Silicon Valley venture capitalists who later spent millions supporting Vance’s candidacy to the Senate in 2022."

[33taw]

9. Will Walz be asking the questions?

[dpibel]

33. They each get an opening statement

Pretty sure Walz could ask questions during his if he wanted to.

[33taw]

39. However, there is no requirement for Vance to answer Walz.

[dpibel]

40. Pretty sure the intent would not be getting Vance's answer nt

[edisdead]

43. rhetorical questions.

[33taw]

46. Possibly, but I would like to see him focus on our plan.

[megapuzzler]

10. He needs to remind folks that JD would be president after Trump

either dies or rambles off.

[2naSalit]

12. He's so practical...

That it almost hurts.

I would imagine he'll be touching on this practical point that many may not have considered.

[Katcat]

15. Maybe

That’s the heritage plan? Get trump/vance in office and then oust trump and their puppet is president.

[appalachiablue]

31. Check, a scary thought. Mike Malloy on Vance. Some see Opus Dei, Taliban.

[2naSalit]

11. He may not start with it...

But I feel confident he'll say something quite like that at some point during the debate.

[speak easy]

13. And you can bet Vance will have prepared for it.

Some of his 'éxplainations' are on the record.

[PedroXimenez]

41. right they have to assume Vance is prepared for this

not that they shouldn't bring it up but need to take into account how he might respond

[Hamlette]

14. no, what he should say is:

You called Trump "America's Hitler" yet you insist that Democrats are responsible for violence when they call him a fascist. Since we all believed he was a threat at one time another are you trying to stop us from speaking the truth? Silencing the truth is a hallmark of fascism, isn't it? You aren't trying to silence the truth are you?

[LymphocyteLover]

17. I'd be shocked if Walz didn't bring up Vance calling Dump "America's Hitler"

[Towlie]

30. To many Republicans, that's a big plus.

[LymphocyteLover]

58. oh god, you're right... so horrible

[samsingh]

20. that's a great opening.

[Evolve Dammit]

21. Absolutely perfect

[SomedayKindaLove]

23. Debate KO in 2 minutes

Maybe top it off with, “You can’t even order donuts without seeming weird.”

[elocs]

26. Previously being an anti-Trumper, I think Vance's hope if he is elected he will not make it through the term,

making Vance president or dictator.

[JCMach1]

27. Then ask him how Trump looks now from his couch

[BoRaGard]

32. He's a republcon

they like lies They think lying is cute.

[bmichaelh]

34. Hope he hits Vance hard on healthcare

I hope he hits Vance hard on healthcare

High-risk pools have been tried before

Trump has no plan; he just wants to go back before ACA was passed.

[sellitman]

45. " Because....

It was taken out of context."

lol

[iemanja]

53. Is it Oct 1?

[mdbl]

55. Never debate with morons.

They never listen to me.

[ECL213]

59. Don't you mean...

"And yet...here you are....Why would we trust anything you say now, COUCH FUCKER?"