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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDespite debate denials, Trump admits Biden beat him 'by a whisker'
The more Donald Trump concedes he lost to Joe Biden in 2020 "by a whisker," the more legally relevant the Republican's rhetoric could become.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/debate-denials-trump-admits-biden-beat-whisker-rcna172848
Donald Trumps latest event in North Carolina was ostensibly supposed to focus on manufacturing and job creation, but true to form, the Republican candidate strayed from his script.
This included some curious comments about the results of the 2020 presidential election:
For the record, his assessment was uncharacteristically accurate. In 2016, the Republican ticket received roughly 63 million votes, which worked out to be approximately 46% of the popular vote. Four years later, amid higher turnout, Trump finished with more than 74 million votes which wouldve been great, were it not for the fact that Joe Biden finished with more than 81 million votes.
Nevertheless, as a video excerpt of the GOP candidates comments makes clear, he didnt appear to be kidding.
......This came up during the recent presidential debate, when ABC News David Muir reminded Trump of his by a whisker rhetoric. The GOP nominee immediately pushed back.
I said that sarcastically, Trump replied. You know that. It was said, Oh we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically.
The response didnt make sense. The former president has long struggled to understand what sarcasm actually means, and this didnt help. The videos of Trumps public comments made clear that he was not, in fact, being sarcastic.
And now, hes said the same thing once again, without a hint of sarcasm or intended humor.
As for the potential legal relevance, The New Republic noted, Of course, its important to know that pretty much every time Trump opens his mouth, his words are admissible in court. So admitting that he didnt win the election could potentially hurt the former president in court specifically, in his election interference case in Washington, D.C., where special counsel [Jack] Smith is seeking to prove that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election but still tried to overturn the results.
This included some curious comments about the results of the 2020 presidential election:
We did much better, by the way, in the election of 2020, than we did in 2016. Just remember that. Millions and millions of votes more more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country. But they beat us by a whisker. They beat us just by a little whisker. He beat us from the basement.
For the record, his assessment was uncharacteristically accurate. In 2016, the Republican ticket received roughly 63 million votes, which worked out to be approximately 46% of the popular vote. Four years later, amid higher turnout, Trump finished with more than 74 million votes which wouldve been great, were it not for the fact that Joe Biden finished with more than 81 million votes.
Nevertheless, as a video excerpt of the GOP candidates comments makes clear, he didnt appear to be kidding.
Link to tweet
......This came up during the recent presidential debate, when ABC News David Muir reminded Trump of his by a whisker rhetoric. The GOP nominee immediately pushed back.
I said that sarcastically, Trump replied. You know that. It was said, Oh we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically.
The response didnt make sense. The former president has long struggled to understand what sarcasm actually means, and this didnt help. The videos of Trumps public comments made clear that he was not, in fact, being sarcastic.
And now, hes said the same thing once again, without a hint of sarcasm or intended humor.
As for the potential legal relevance, The New Republic noted, Of course, its important to know that pretty much every time Trump opens his mouth, his words are admissible in court. So admitting that he didnt win the election could potentially hurt the former president in court specifically, in his election interference case in Washington, D.C., where special counsel [Jack] Smith is seeking to prove that Trump knew he lost the 2020 election but still tried to overturn the results.
These comments were not sarcastic and will be used against TFG by Jack Smith and Fani Willis.
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Despite debate denials, Trump admits Biden beat him 'by a whisker' (Original Post)
LetMyPeopleVote
Sep 2024
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Biden won by 4.5 points -- a big enough margin to prevent an automatic recount
Rocknation
Sep 2024
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Rocknation
(45,006 posts)1. Biden won by 4.5 points -- a big enough margin to prevent an automatic recount
which is a margin of from zero (a flat-footed tie) to two percent depending on state law.
Trump lost by more like a beard than a whisker.
rocknation
underpants
(196,541 posts)2. He's admitted that before
Last week I think. He let it slip out. He cant be wrong so he doubled back on it.