Why is Zelensky treating Trump like he's a serious person and will help Ukraine after all the insults?

[tenderfoot]

What utter BULLSHIT!

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. Because he's a world leader who understands what diplomacy is? NT

[tenderfoot]

3. Trump? GTFO!

If he's gets back in the White House, this country deserves all the BAD that's going to happen.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

5. Zelensky

Interesting you thought I was referring to Trump when your complaint was about Zelensky.

[tenderfoot]

18. Interesting that anyone would consider Trump as a serious leader including Zelensky

eom

[hlthe2b]

23. Zelensky knows if the US goes (further) insane & Trump wins/steals the election he's stuck dealing with him.

It is called "covering the bases," which he MUST do for his people. i.e., Zelensky is taking one for the team.

[tenderfoot]

28. If Trump wins he'll get no additional aid and most likely killed

eom

[hlthe2b]

36. His meeting with him WILL put pressure on him. I'm not naive' so don't go there...

In the first days, Trump will be facing a whirlwind of anger and whiplash--even from his own "party." And that does not begin to include the world response. He will not be able to ignore or get past that on day one. Even with his years of planning.

[yorkster]

45. Right you are, sad to say.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

27. Who said he was?

Keep digging.

[orange jar]

35. If (God forbid) he wins in November,

then Zelenskyy has to work with him either way. That's why he's doing this. His main priority is aid to Ukraine — I don't think he cares much about who would do it, for better or for worse.

And yes, we know Trump is going to let Russia do whatever it wants — but the probability of Trump winning is not 0, so Zelenskyy wants to at least try. Sounds like something any sensible world leader would do.

[atreides1]

51. If Trump wins in November

Zelensky will be dead by the end of the year, Ukraine will become Russian territory, and NATO will likely cease to exist!

[bluestarone]

57. TRUE! Along

with all of Zelensky's family and friends.

[Doodley]

53. No country and no people deserve fascism.

[TwilightZone]

10. Exactly.

[Trueblue1968]

58. Because Zelensky is a nice man....that is why.

[tritsofme]

2. Because he has no choice. Isn't that obvious?

[tenderfoot]

6. He has no choice? According to who?

[tritsofme]

9. He has to deal with him if he wins. What purpose would raging against him serve?

[tenderfoot]

13. I'm sure he'll act in good faith

and cut off aid.

[kysrsoze]

4. When your country's existence depends on it, you need to hedge your bets.

It's already likely Dump would try to cut all US military funding to Ukraine. Why make that a certainty?

[tenderfoot]

7. He'll cut them off regardless

Isn't THAT obvious?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

8. Apparently being rude to TFG is more important than Ukraine's survival NT

[tenderfoot]

16. You sound like you think Trump will win.

eom

[NoRethugFriends]

19. if you don't think that's a possibility, you're delusional

[GreenWave]

32. Harris is ahead of 2020 Biden and is locking up North Carolina.

And for IQ 45 losing North Carolina is the knockout blow!

[NoRethugFriends]

48. OK then. We can just skip the election.

[kysrsoze]

21. You sound much too sure of yourself. We thought we had 2016 in the bag, but we remember how that went.

To suppose what you don't think will happen is still within the realm of possibility is simply being rational.

You ask a simple question, then you lash out at all of us when we respond. If you didn't want our opinion, you should have said, "I think it's dumb for Zelenskyy to meet with Dump, and I don't care what anyone else thinks."

[tritsofme]

22. What nonsense, just like this post. Sorry Zelensky is busy saving his country and not providing you a more entertaining

daytime cable news experience.

[oldsoftie]

42. Ignoring the FACT that Trump MAY win is foolish. For Zelensky AND us.

How is that not obvious?

[WarGamer]

55. Polls show Trump with a 45%-ish chance of winning.

That's approximately a coin flip.

[YodaMom2]

11. He's a realist.

Ukraine needs the U.S. for its literal survival. And as messed up as it is, the cotton candy-haired, Adderral-snorting, bronzer distorted, spittle spraying kook actually has a chance to “win” (by hook or by crook) in November. So Zelensky’s got to hedge his bets and make nice with Orange Foolius.

[tenderfoot]

20. I find it amusing that anyone would think TFG would act in good faith

it's astonishing!

[Ocelot II]

30. TFG doesn't know the meaning of good faith, but he's very susceptible to flattery.

If you want to get anything from him, you have to make him believe you love him.

[edisdead]

44. I am sorry but I don't think you are being reasonable at all in this thread.

He has to explore every option available even as remote as it may be to try to keep his country safe.

[Ms. Toad]

59. No one thinks he will act in good faith.

BUT - when you expect someone to act in bad faith, is it smart to intentionally piss them off?

[Ocelot II]

12. Diplomacy is a thing.

If you're a leader, sometimes you have to deal with odious people and be polite about it.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

34. Yalta Conference

Source: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/the-yalta-conference-at-seventy-five-lessons-from-history/

[oldsoftie]

40. Roosevelt looks like he's about to backhand Stalin

[Bongo Prophet]

60. Perhaps after he finishes his cigarette.

A left-handed smoker.

[kentuck]

14. He's covering his bases, just in case Trump wins in November.

Otherwise, it could be the end of his political career, as well as the end of his country, and maybe the end of his life?

[tenderfoot]

17. All will happen if Trump wins

eom

[TwilightZone]

15. Would you prefer that he act like Trump?

That would be misguided.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

29. I think we know the answer

[arlyellowdog]

24. I think it's to halt the Ukraine hatred by the know nothings

Stupid MAGA are pro Russia just because they have no idea they are even countries. Pose with Trump and it may shut them up.

[LAS14]

25. I'm glad you're not the president of my beleaguered country. nt

[milestogo]

26. Because Trump could be the next POTUS.

[AnnaLee]

31. Zelenski needs US help no matter who is elected.

And he realizes that the best diplomacy with Trump is the worship and kiss butt kind. I imagine he will even call him Mr. President and it would be a good choice right now.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

33. Insults?

Not to mention EXTORTION on the "perfect phone call." I believe that was the basis for the first impeachment of that disgusting criminal.

I doubt President Zelensky has forgotten that. OR that the convicted felon publicly and loudly supports Putin.

Maybe Zelensky is trolling Putin.

Maybe he'll punch that asshole in the face, run it on pay per view, and fund the Ukrainians for eternity.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

37. Five weeks from now, 75 million people will cast their ballot for Donald Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

[C_U_L8R]

38. Sad to say, appealing to his needy ego

might help sway the right wing bloc in congress, when it comes to funding. Not an unwise move by President Z.

[oldsoftie]

39. Zelensky is doing the right thing. He probably doesnt WANT to meet with him,

but he knows he SHOULD. Optics for the world & Putin

[edisdead]

41. Because he has millions of people to worry about?

He would be derelict if he didn't try to speak with the person that may end up in the WH. Not that any of us want him to but the reality is taht he is one half of a 2 person race for a position that could decide what happens to his country and all of its citizens.

[Wiz Imp]

43. Why did you ask a question if you're not going to accept it when...

People respond with a logical explanation? Seems like you didn't want a serious response to your question at all.

[Susan Calvin]

46. Just in case, I guess. nt

[Beastly Boy]

47. Because Zelensky is a patriot.

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And it is as likely as not that the majority of American lawmakers deciding the fate of Ukraine next year will be Trumpers, whether Trump wins or not.

[MineralMan]

49. Like all smart people, he's covering all of the bases.

[themaguffin]

50. He has to. Others can be more confrontational. He can't.

[JohnSJ]

52. Because he might win

[Polybius]

54. Because he has about a 40% chance of getting elected President

Can't not have relations with the most important country in the world.

[Doodley]

56. Suppose a mobster kidnapped your children, and the mobster had a friend

who was an untrustworthy douchebag who wanted to talk to you. Are you going to talk?