As Biden rallies support for Ukraine, Trump mocks Zelenskyy

[LetMyPeopleVote]

On the one hand, the president is rallying global support at the U.N. On the other, Donald Trump is marveling publicly at the history of Russia’s military might.

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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/biden-rallies-support-ukraine-trump-mocks-zelenskyy-rcna172659

In his fourth and final address to the United Nations General Assembly, President Joe Biden covered quite a bit of ground, though the Democrat appeared especially animated when speaking about Russia’s war in Ukraine......

If Vice President Kamala Harris is elected in November, the world can expect the United States to follow through on the commitments Biden outlined at the U.N. If, however, Donald Trump returns to power, it appears increasingly likely that American policy toward Ukraine would change course dramatically. NBC News reported:

Trump signaled reluctance about providing further U.S. financial assistance to Ukraine, just hours after Biden defended U.S. backing of its ally in his speech to the United Nations General Assembly. ‘Every time [Ukrainian President Volodymyr] Zelenskyy comes to the United States, he walks away with $100 billion,’ Trump said from a campaign stage in the battleground state of Georgia. ‘I think he’s the greatest salesman on Earth.’”

As part of the same remarks, the Republican marveled at the history of Russia’s military might — suggesting the Russian forces might not be worth trying to fend off — while appearing to goad his audience into booing the Ukrainian leader.

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The comments came one day after the former president held a rally in Pennsylvania in which he insisted that the U.S. is to blame for Russia’s war in Ukraine, mocked Zelenskyy and argued without evidence that Ukraine’s president wants Harris to win the 2024 election “so badly.”

This also comes on the heels of Trump refusing to say whether or not he wants our Ukrainian allies to win the war.

I saw that TFG met with Zelenskyy but was an ass. It is sad that Zelenskyy had to met with TFG

[nature-lover]

1. Trump only respects wealthy dictators. Zelenskyy is neither. They can never be "friends."

[MorbidButterflyTat]

2. In other important, timely news:

water is wet.

[Disaffected]

3. "Somebody told me the other day, they beat Hitler, they beat Napoleon."

Good grief. To think that this nincompoop once occupied the Oval office.

[haele]

5. The Soviets beat Hitler only because of Lend Lease and German supply lines

And throwing their population in front of the German advanced. Between famine and war, they lost a shocking amount of young and working aged people in the 30's and 40's.
General Winter and extended supply lines beat Napoleon. Again, Russia lost a huge amount of men slowing the advance of Napoleon.

Historically, after the Mongol Empire over-extended itself and collapsed, the Boyers and Muscovite Russians depend on buffer client states to protect them from outside invasions. Belarus is a client oligarchy. As are Chechnya, Georgia, and the 'Stans. Too bad for Russia - Finland, Poland, and the Baltics have joined NATO...
Hence, the invasion of Ukraine. Putin and his little Gangster Empire need more allies and buffer states to protect them from "Nazis" - that is, any organization, especially Western, that threatens the Kleptocracy or the cynical cult-like intimidation propaganda that keeps the general Russian in line.

Haele

[Disaffected]

6. I agree with the gist of your post but,

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not sure about the use of "only" in the title. Certainly Lend Lease played a significant role but IMO the Russians would have prevailed in any case.

At about any time after the invasion of Russia began, about 2/3rds of the German army and air force were consumed on the Eastern front. Their sacrifice was immense and if Russia had not been involved, the retaking of the occupied lands in Europe, Africa etc. would have been next to impossible (that being qualified however by the development of the atomic bomb).

[hatrack]

7. 4/5ths of live male births in the USSR in 1923 didn't survive to May, 1945

So, yeah, what the German soldiers in 1941 described as "the same old steamroller" was part and parcel of both World Wars and continues to this day.

[cyclonefence]

4. "As somebody told me the other day..."

What a fucking dumbass. This guy went to fucking *military school*--has he ever learned anything in his entire life? Remember, this is the guy who asked "What's the big deal about Pearl Harbor?"

[Trueblue1968]

8. tRump Lied No ONE talked to him the other day. Those comments suck.