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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"who knows what the reason is, but something is changing" to create "massive storm surge."
Rick Scott says no-one knows the reason.
Hey you lying asshole we know the fucking reason!
Lovie777
(22,985 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)he's really just that stupid.
NCDem47
(3,470 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,328 posts)very hard to overcome.
CareerGuyMA
(16 posts)There is no willful ignorance. If its willful, its not ignorant. Its COMPLICIT
KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Upton Sinclair
NBachers
(19,438 posts)Martin68
(27,749 posts)House of Roberts
(6,527 posts)maybe it's because there's TOO MUCH FUCKING WATER!
malaise
(296,118 posts)jackass Scott
paleotn
(22,218 posts)I know the area well. Small mountain towns between Asheville and Boone, east towards Morganton and Hickory. West into Tennessee. My better half has reached out to some of our old friends still in the area but contact is spotty at best. Power is out, cell service is out. They were flooding before Helene even moved north simply due to the size of the storm and the stalled front across the southeast. And then it got worse. Biblically worse. Doppler radar estimates up to 4 FEET of rain fell on the peaks of the mountains in places around Western NC. 4 FEET!
Towns like Spruce Pine are cut off and will remain so for...who the hell knows how long? Bakersville, the Mitchell county seat, was completely flooded. Mitchel and Avery counties are nearly inaccessible. Mountain roads are gone. Just...gone. Let that sink in. Whole roads gone. Whole modern, concrete bridges, some of them quite large, are gone. Montreat and Swannanoa are gone. Floods and landslides. Whole neighborhoods gone. No one knows what the death toll may be.
Parts of Unicoi County across the border in TN were evacuated. Limestone Cove for one. I know it well. Erwin, the county seat is flooded out. Patients and staff were evaced by Nat Guard helo from the roof of the local hospital, the water rose so quickly. A small hotel and restaurant I use to frequent right on the crest of the Blue Ridge outside of Spruce Pine, NC, is gone. Just gone. Slid down the mountain. Hwy 226 up the Blue Ridge is gone in places. East bound lanes of I40 through the Pigeon River gorge, TN to NC, are just gone. Bridges across the Nolichucky River in TN are gone. Massive, modern, concrete bridges, 50 ft. over the river and 30 yards long...are gone. Hot Springs, NC completely flooded. Nolichucky Dam towards Greeneville, TN is holding but was feared it would fail. Lake Lure dam in NC was overtopped and failure was predicted, but it held. Thank your personal deity for small miracles.
I haven't lived there in years and years and can't wrap my head around the scale of the destruction. It just doesn't register that this can actually be real. Particularly a place I know so intimately. It's biblical. That's the only words I have to describe it. This isn't a 100 year storm or even a 500 year storm. This is so off the fucking charts. Places that have never flooded in human memory are destroyed and washed away. Sad, sad day in the paleotn household. I'm just in shock.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)This will be one of them
ashredux
(2,928 posts)Permanut
(8,391 posts)Maybe the two of you can figure it out.
jalan48
(14,914 posts)The media dutifully bows it's head, and in hushed tones talks about the destruction and suffering caused by the hurricane. Any discussion of climate change is inappropriate in this moment of sorrow.
oasis
(53,695 posts)Biophilic
(6,552 posts)As far as Florida is concerned officially there is no concept of climate change. It doesn't exist. Yea, right.
twodogsbarking
(18,785 posts)bagimin
(1,703 posts)????
dchill
(42,660 posts)...who write the laws that say you have to have insurance to buy or "own."
ProfessorGAC
(76,706 posts)I completely believe HE doesn't know why.
The lie is the "no-one". Billions of other people know why.
He's the outlier. Mostly because he's an idiot. How'd that moron get through law school?
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)so they can continue to ruin the environment for their profiteering...
Farmer-Rick
(12,667 posts)Done something to prevent this storm from being so massive, and they didn't.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)to cause storms like these. There is a long lag time between human behavior change and an actual effect on the atmosphere. Meanwhile, the C02 level continues to go up, the storms will get worse, and sea level will continue to rise. We're still doing more talking about it than actually doing something about it. Sooner or later people will have to stop living in buildings near the ocean or within the flood plains of streams and rivers.
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Mama nature will be really pissed by then.
BrianTheEVGuy
(697 posts)
I hear that if you ignore and deny a problem with all of your might, for a very long time, the problem solves itself and disappears!
This important concept is taught to everyone in DeSantiss public education system.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)Scumbag. The upside is that a lot of Floridians will start to see through the bullshit after the disastrous storms and the governor's admission that "something is changing." Huh. Maybe there really is something to that climate change stuff...
Arger68
(732 posts)Start believing in climate change when they start complaining that "liberals never warned us this was happening", or something like that
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,884 posts)And I'm a Southern Boy, but I said what I said.
I'm sick of Democrats being the battered wife of politics.
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