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jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 10:19 AM Sep 2024

"who knows what the reason is, but something is changing" to create "massive storm surge."

Rick Scott says no-one knows the reason.

Hey you lying asshole we know the fucking reason!

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"who knows what the reason is, but something is changing" to create "massive storm surge." (Original Post) jcgoldie Sep 2024 OP
Idiot........................... Lovie777 Sep 2024 #1
One could say, " lying idiot", but it's possible.......... jaxexpat Sep 2024 #3
If only science could get to the bottom of this! NCDem47 Sep 2024 #27
Willful ignorance is a powerful thing... Wounded Bear Sep 2024 #2
Willful ignorance CareerGuyMA Sep 2024 #16
Spot on and welcome to DU! KS Toronado Sep 2024 #20
It is markodochartaigh Sep 2024 #17
Yet somehow, he keeps getting elected over and over again. NBachers Sep 2024 #4
He says what the people want to hear. Martin68 Sep 2024 #26
Hey Rick, House of Roberts Sep 2024 #5
I'll take warmer, oceans and seas for everythung malaise Sep 2024 #6
I lived in Western North Carolina years ago. paleotn Sep 2024 #7
This level of destruction is why some hurricanes are remembered a century later ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #11
It will be remembered for one of the "first ones".... ashredux Sep 2024 #12
Check with Bill O'Reilly.. Permanut Sep 2024 #8
Like gun violence, now is not the time to talk about the reason for the problem. jalan48 Sep 2024 #9
Pretending ignorance. oasis Sep 2024 #10
You have to remember that Florida eliminated the words Climate Change and even the concept from it's government. Biophilic Sep 2024 #13
They have eliminated insurance as well, effectively. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #14
Then why am I payin 6 grand a year bagimin Sep 2024 #18
Because the insurance lobby owns the politicians... dchill Sep 2024 #24
I Doubt That ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #15
Classical Propaganda by Republicans DENVERPOPS Sep 2024 #19
And to think, people could have Farmer-Rick Sep 2024 #21
The sad truth is that if we totally stopped using hydrocarbons right now the carbon dioxide level is already high enough Martin68 Sep 2024 #25
The weather in 2024 will be fondly remembered in 2040. ArkansasDemocrat1 Sep 2024 #30
Ya know... BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #22
Rick Scott had a law passed to prohibit the use of the term "climate change" by Florida State employees. Martin68 Sep 2024 #23
We'll know when Republicans Arger68 Sep 2024 #28
Who? Pretty much everyone. Dumbass crook. bullimiami Sep 2024 #29
I don't wanna hear GA, FL, NC, TN begging for government help. BOOTSTRAPS all you goat ropers! BamaRefugee Sep 2024 #31
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jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
3. One could say, " lying idiot", but it's possible..........
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 10:25 AM
Sep 2024

he's really just that stupid.

CareerGuyMA

(16 posts)
16. Willful ignorance
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 12:02 PM
Sep 2024

There is no “willful“ ignorance. If it’s willful, it’s not ignorant. It’s COMPLICIT

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
17. It is
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 12:13 PM
Sep 2024

difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.
Upton Sinclair

paleotn

(22,218 posts)
7. I lived in Western North Carolina years ago.
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 11:08 AM
Sep 2024

I know the area well. Small mountain towns between Asheville and Boone, east towards Morganton and Hickory. West into Tennessee. My better half has reached out to some of our old friends still in the area but contact is spotty at best. Power is out, cell service is out. They were flooding before Helene even moved north simply due to the size of the storm and the stalled front across the southeast. And then it got worse. Biblically worse. Doppler radar estimates up to 4 FEET of rain fell on the peaks of the mountains in places around Western NC. 4 FEET!

Towns like Spruce Pine are cut off and will remain so for...who the hell knows how long? Bakersville, the Mitchell county seat, was completely flooded. Mitchel and Avery counties are nearly inaccessible. Mountain roads are gone. Just...gone. Let that sink in. Whole roads gone. Whole modern, concrete bridges, some of them quite large, are gone. Montreat and Swannanoa are gone. Floods and landslides. Whole neighborhoods gone. No one knows what the death toll may be.

Parts of Unicoi County across the border in TN were evacuated. Limestone Cove for one. I know it well. Erwin, the county seat is flooded out. Patients and staff were evaced by Nat Guard helo from the roof of the local hospital, the water rose so quickly. A small hotel and restaurant I use to frequent right on the crest of the Blue Ridge outside of Spruce Pine, NC, is gone. Just gone. Slid down the mountain. Hwy 226 up the Blue Ridge is gone in places. East bound lanes of I40 through the Pigeon River gorge, TN to NC, are just gone. Bridges across the Nolichucky River in TN are gone. Massive, modern, concrete bridges, 50 ft. over the river and 30 yards long...are gone. Hot Springs, NC completely flooded. Nolichucky Dam towards Greeneville, TN is holding but was feared it would fail. Lake Lure dam in NC was overtopped and failure was predicted, but it held. Thank your personal deity for small miracles.

I haven't lived there in years and years and can't wrap my head around the scale of the destruction. It just doesn't register that this can actually be real. Particularly a place I know so intimately. It's biblical. That's the only words I have to describe it. This isn't a 100 year storm or even a 500 year storm. This is so off the fucking charts. Places that have never flooded in human memory are destroyed and washed away. Sad, sad day in the paleotn household. I'm just in shock.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
11. This level of destruction is why some hurricanes are remembered a century later
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 11:37 AM
Sep 2024

This will be one of them

jalan48

(14,914 posts)
9. Like gun violence, now is not the time to talk about the reason for the problem.
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 11:21 AM
Sep 2024

The media dutifully bows it's head, and in hushed tones talks about the destruction and suffering caused by the hurricane. Any discussion of climate change is inappropriate in this moment of sorrow.

Biophilic

(6,552 posts)
13. You have to remember that Florida eliminated the words Climate Change and even the concept from it's government.
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 11:47 AM
Sep 2024

As far as Florida is concerned officially there is no concept of climate change. It doesn't exist. Yea, right.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
24. Because the insurance lobby owns the politicians...
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:09 PM
Sep 2024

...who write the laws that say you have to have insurance to buy or "own."

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
15. I Doubt That
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 11:57 AM
Sep 2024

I completely believe HE doesn't know why.
The lie is the "no-one". Billions of other people know why.
He's the outlier. Mostly because he's an idiot. How'd that moron get through law school?

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
19. Classical Propaganda by Republicans
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 12:37 PM
Sep 2024

so they can continue to ruin the environment for their profiteering...

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
21. And to think, people could have
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sep 2024

Done something to prevent this storm from being so massive, and they didn't.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
25. The sad truth is that if we totally stopped using hydrocarbons right now the carbon dioxide level is already high enough
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:15 PM
Sep 2024

to cause storms like these. There is a long lag time between human behavior change and an actual effect on the atmosphere. Meanwhile, the C02 level continues to go up, the storms will get worse, and sea level will continue to rise. We're still doing more talking about it than actually doing something about it. Sooner or later people will have to stop living in buildings near the ocean or within the flood plains of streams and rivers.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
30. The weather in 2024 will be fondly remembered in 2040.
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:30 PM
Sep 2024

Mama nature will be really pissed by then.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
22. Ya know...
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sep 2024

… I hear that if you ignore and deny a problem with all of your might, for a very long time, the problem solves itself and disappears!

This important concept is taught to everyone in DeSantis’s “public education system.”

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
23. Rick Scott had a law passed to prohibit the use of the term "climate change" by Florida State employees.
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:08 PM
Sep 2024

Scumbag. The upside is that a lot of Floridians will start to see through the bullshit after the disastrous storms and the governor's admission that "something is changing." Huh. Maybe there really is something to that climate change stuff...

Arger68

(732 posts)
28. We'll know when Republicans
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:21 PM
Sep 2024

Start believing in climate change when they start complaining that "liberals never warned us this was happening", or something like that

BamaRefugee

(3,884 posts)
31. I don't wanna hear GA, FL, NC, TN begging for government help. BOOTSTRAPS all you goat ropers!
Sat Sep 28, 2024, 01:36 PM
Sep 2024

And I'm a Southern Boy, but I said what I said.
I'm sick of Democrats being the battered wife of politics.

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