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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMark Jacob: The New York Times is failing our country
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When the Times covers Trump like hes one of the Kardashians, its no wonder that people dont show the proper alarm about his violent rhetoric, which echoes the hate speech of 1930s Germany and 1990s Rwanda.
Time after time, the New York Times sands off the sharp edges of Trumpism:
The Times described JD Vances denunciation of childless cat ladies and his lie about Haitian immigrants eating dogs and cats as combative conservatism when its really sexism and racism.
* When Trump posted I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT, the Times toned that down with a headline saying he expressed disdain for her.
* When top Republicans lied about Haitian immigrants, the Times headline said Republicans Seize on False Theories as if those theories came out of the ether instead of originating and being spread by the pro-Trump right wing.
* Early in the pet-eating hoax, the Times wrote this headline: JD Vance Appears to Backtrack on False Claim About Haitian Migrants in Ohio. But that was an embarrassing misreading of what Vance did. The correct headline would have been: Vance Says Claim About Haitian Migrants May Be Hoax, but Urges People to Spread It Anyway. Thats what he did. Three weeks later, Vance still hasnt disavowed the lie and apologized.
* This past weekend, the Times wrote a ridiculously warm-and-fuzzy mentor-protege story about Trump and Vance, making them seem like Dumbledore and Harry Potter when theyre more like Dr. Evil and Mini-me. (Or not fictional characters at all, but real-life fascists.)
Im sure the Times thinks its doing just fine. Times star reporter Maggie Haberman said recently that the media does a very good job covering Trump.
But the fact is, theres not nearly enough alarm in the Times reporting. Trumps oft-repeated lie about Democrats wanting to murder babies after birth is mostly ignored. When it showed up in a Times story recently, it was mentioned in the 12th paragraph. And we should never forget that when Trump called for termination of the Constitution, the Times put it on Page 13.
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BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)what a sellout...
dchill
(42,660 posts)jrthin
(5,227 posts)They were on the wrong side of history many, many times (I.e., the NYTs dragged Martin Luther King; they also backed Bush on the Iraq war.)
dchill
(42,660 posts)Ah, the memories.
RockRaven
(19,555 posts)DFW
(60,315 posts)And all I do is make the occasional funny video from Germany.
jimfields33
(19,382 posts)just endorsed Vice president Harris for president. Remember most read the article titles.
jrthin
(5,227 posts)month and on, they'll use their headlines to normalize and help tfg.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Like twitter, anyone with a subscription at this point is just supporting it.
erronis
(24,101 posts)I pity them.
RockCreek
(1,485 posts)$5 or so a month. I switched a few months ago after being a full subscriber for decades.
dawg
(10,777 posts)They dare not offend the right-wingers, because many of them are kingpins in the corporate world and control advertising budgets. Hence the false balance.
Stargazer99
(3,530 posts)and Trump will only make it so that owner will benefit from Trump practices so will not let anything negative reflect the paper. Sometimes I think the general public can't analyze things and just respond on an emotionally basis only. Republicans are well versed in manipulation through emotional manipulation
the_liberal_grandpa
(306 posts)When they came after Joe Biden after the first debate and they have given me no reason to consider another subscription. They do have some excellent journalists who I like but their editorial board seems hell-bent on getting the orange felon back in the White House. The same goes for CNN. It's a shame how the media has embraced the possible end of democracy for money.
Marigold
(230 posts)It is unfortunate because they do have some really good writers. I feel like these old school media institutions try to throw us enough crumbs to make us think that they are actually liberal, when they are just corporations concerned about money. I gave up on CNN a long time ago, and stick with MSNBC just for Nicolle Wallace, Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, and Lawrence O'Donnell. Can't stomach its daytime programming.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)months ago, along with probably hundreds of thousands, if not millions more, after their publishing Tsunami of horrific, radical, right wing articles and editorials......
30-40 years ago, I used to have the Sunday edition delivered to my home here. They were pretty good at true journalism and leaned left.....Now, the NYT is, except for a few select writers/articles, complete far rightwing crap.........
Farmer-Rick
(12,721 posts)To murder and beat up the people Trump dislikes. Trump thinks the threat of violent abuse and murder will lead to a sudden stop of all crime. He's stupid enough to believe that cops will easily round up people who have access to automatic weapons and cheap ammo.
It might have worked in pre Nazi Germany. But back then, the population was not armed nor had easy access to automatic weapons and inexpensive ammunition.
Wasn't that the argument of right wing gun nuts? That arming the population was to prevent an out of control government?
Well both sides are mostly armed now. So, it's not going to go down just on one night. Those families and friends of the abused and murdered are going to come out and fight back. It will just be a shoot out like in prohibition days, only with everyone shooting.
And the NY Times thinks Trump is just another democratic politician.
IbogaProject
(5,980 posts)Skittles
(172,172 posts)they'll hold her to standards much higher than any fucking man
kimbutgar
(27,362 posts)Ive been reading a book Bad days in history and some of the NYTs have written bogus stories and been busted throughout many years.
bmichaelh
(1,218 posts)More like Iago or John Claggart.
They do a disservice by not highlighting Trump's cluster B personality disorder.
Evolve Dammit
(21,799 posts)Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)Habberman is right, but perhaps not as she intended. Not only do they provide as much free airtime as he wants, but they endlessly sane wash his depraved utterances. The provide cover for him as, I suppose, a professional curtesy.
mountain grammy
(29,088 posts)When the Washington Post decided to bury the upside down flag Alito story, I did not renew my subscription. Let my Times subscription lapse in 2016 after their softball coverage of trump Gave up on the Denver Post when it endorsed Cory Gardner in 2012 over Mark Udall, one of the best Senators in the country. What a damn disgrace.
Trump is dangerous. He's a madman intent on power and corrupt to the core. The only coverage we need.
maxsolomon
(38,912 posts)And every day on DU.
NNadir
(38,262 posts)Metro135
(404 posts)In today's issue they chose Harris as "the only patriotic choice for president," and there was an editorial about how "Donald Trump's First term Is a Warning."
Their coverage is decidedly schizophrenic.
maxsolomon
(38,912 posts)They have a clear liberal preference in their official editorials. They endorse the Democrat.
In their reporting, they strive for journalistic objectivity, to the point where the headlines in particular wind up sanitizing the overarching repugnance of Repulicans. This blogger catalogs such examples.
This is a deliberate choice, and Haberman, as much as DU loves to hate her, is correct: that approach isn't up to dealing with the firehose of lies that comes out of MFer's mouth (and/or Vance's).
SocialDemocrat61
(7,782 posts)because they have incorrectly defined it as treating both sides equally. But that's not real objectivity. If candidates A says it's raining and candidate B says it's not it's not being objective to just report that. Journalistic objectivity is looking out the window to see who's telling the truth and report that.
maxsolomon
(38,912 posts)They sanitize Trump's toxicity by using overtly objective language. They don't ENDORSE him.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,782 posts)is far worse than endorsing him. Newspaper endorsements dont matter. No one changes their vote because of a newspaper endorsement.
LAS14
(15,522 posts)Because they report the facts without adopting a leftist tone is, I thnk, evidence of their struggle to maintain a neutral position relative to the political parties. It's a challenge. But I don't want our mainstream media to become a left wing mouth piece. I want to have a place to go that doesn't keep me in a bubble.
Don't get me wrong. I am totally behind a "leftist tone." It's what comes out of MY mouth. But I don't want it from the NYT or WaPo or PBS or NPR.
It's got to be a struggle when one of the political parties has rejected truth as a standard.
RidinWithHarris
(790 posts)The signs of that are about as objective as such things can ever be.
It would not be a "leftist tone" to be loudly sounding the alarm bells now. If you have to go beyond the headlines to see the urgency of this situation for the country, then the media isn't doing its job.
Trump should be reported on in the same tone the news media adopts for an incoming Category 5 hurricane.
GoreWon2000
(1,461 posts)and made no bones about it. This is actual fact. It's documented in the archives of the Daily Howler blog. The NYT and the media in general savagely attacked Al Gore while they let bushthief off the hook at every turn. They were anything but impartial. The very specific documentation of their war against Al Gore again is found in the archives of the Daily Howler. It's the only written record of how badly the NYT and the media in general failed our country is 2000. It would be well worth your time to review that archive.
Mysterian
(6,567 posts)Nobody is asking for a "leftist tone." Just good old fashioned honest, objective journalism.
MistakenLamb
(791 posts)Legacy media is dying in front of our eyes, I can't wait till their relevancy is eliminated entirely by the end of this decade
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)dalton99a
(94,724 posts)Response to Nevilledog (Original post)
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Chakaconcarne
(2,792 posts)dalton99a
(94,724 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(7,782 posts)and their goal is not good journalism and inform the people. Its to protect their bottom line. Whats sad is that they have so many sycophantic apologists.
tishaLA
(14,785 posts)And Politico and Axios painting his most recent extremism and threats of violence as "sharpening his rhetoric" on immigration.
mdbl
(8,719 posts)Seems they want to be just another right-wing rag.
