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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:14 PM Sep 2024

Adam Kinzinger: It's time ⁦Elon Musk makes a choice. Be a US Contractor, or Russian. Not both

Adam Kinzinger (Slava Ukraini)
It’s time ⁦Elon Musk makes a choice. Be a US Contractor, or Russian. Not both

Ukraine Discovers Starlink on Downed Russian Shahed Drone: Report - Newsweek

1:58 PM · Sep 30, 2024


Newsweek - Ukraine Discovers Starlink on Downed Russian Shahed Drone: Report

Published Sep 26, 2024 at 6:13 AM EDT
Updated Sep 29, 2024 at 2:12 PM EDT

Russia has installed Starlink terminals in its Iranian-designed Shahed drones, according to a Ukrainian media report, which would mark the latest upgrade to the destructive kamikaze drones long used against Ukrainian cities if confirmed.

Ukrainian air defenses shot down a Shahed-136 attack drone that was fitted with Starlink during aerial attacks overnight between Tuesday and Wednesday, Ukrainian outlet Defense Express reported. Early on Wednesday, Ukraine's air force said it had intercepted 28 out of 32 Shahed drones launched from Russia's Kursk and Krasnodar regions.

Ukraine's air force declined to directly address the reported discovery of Starlink within a Shahed drone when approached by Newsweek, but said Ukrainian experts were studying targets shot down by air defenses. Ukrainian teams investigating the changes to Russian drone designs have not yet received the wreckage of the downed drone, Newsweek understands.

Defense Express shared images purporting to show the drone fitted with Starlink. Newsweek could not independently verify these images, and has reached out to Starlink and the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.

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Adam Kinzinger: It's time ⁦Elon Musk makes a choice. Be a US Contractor, or Russian. Not both (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 OP
traitors and heroes never mix rich7862 Sep 2024 #1
Thinks he's 1st Lt Milo Minderbender. To make money from war, it's got to go on as long as possible. Equip both sides. marble falls Sep 2024 #3
He's from Africa. Not from the United States nor Russia. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #31
Lock up that piece of shit. Basso8vb Sep 2024 #2
Send him home. marble falls Sep 2024 #4
To Moscow!! littlemissmartypants Sep 2024 #7
Not until BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #28
I like the way you think. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #5
Treason adjacent. Excellent descriptor for all things Republican. dchill Sep 2024 #14
Didn't he turn Starlink off when Ukraine tried to use it to attack Putin? JoseBalow Sep 2024 #6
To the best of my recollection, he did. dchill Sep 2024 #15
how can the military trust anything they buy from elon musk who appears to be working for Putin and Xi? samsingh Sep 2024 #8
Oh boy that's super illegal and should lose him all his contracts ColinC Sep 2024 #9
Unfortunately there is no replacement company. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #32
Nationalize Space X JCMach1 Oct 2024 #35
I have no idea what that would entail. jimfields33 Oct 2024 #36
No need to agree at all. Payment from profits JCMach1 Oct 2024 #37
Naturally Russia was using Starlink without Elmo's knowledge or permission groundloop Sep 2024 #10
He's a Bond supervillain Easterncedar Sep 2024 #11
Sir Hugo Drax - from the Fleming novel "Moonraker." dchill Sep 2024 #16
Starlink is the only working comm in many areas in NC right now Bonx Sep 2024 #25
I'm working on a new internet access for me and my business mtngirl47 Sep 2024 #12
There's competition being developed.... haele Sep 2024 #18
Kick dalton99a Sep 2024 #13
Sanction profiteer Musk. Nationalize Starlink. ancianita Sep 2024 #17
Sign from the GOP convention (sorta) usonian Sep 2024 #19
Anything for a buck! What a horrible person PortTack Sep 2024 #20
End all his U.S. national security contracts, effective immediately Wild blueberry Sep 2024 #21
Seize his assets. Take over the company. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #22
WOW Hekate Sep 2024 #23
nationalize starlink quakerboy Sep 2024 #24
Why stop there!!! Bonx Sep 2024 #26
Adam needs to slow his roll Bonx Sep 2024 #27
Musk is a Russian asset...................... Lovie777 Sep 2024 #29
He is at least an asset... rubbersole Sep 2024 #30
Thank you, Adam. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #33
 

rich7862

(492 posts)
1. traitors and heroes never mix
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:24 PM
Sep 2024

Thank You for being a hero and a patriot.

Wish the thug party had heroes like you instead of the traitors that now dominate our our congress.

marble falls

(72,528 posts)
3. Thinks he's 1st Lt Milo Minderbender. To make money from war, it's got to go on as long as possible. Equip both sides.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:28 PM
Sep 2024
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
31. He's from Africa. Not from the United States nor Russia.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:30 PM
Sep 2024

I can see why the confusion from Adam. Many think he was born in Silicon Valley. Not a chance.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
28. Not until
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:00 PM
Sep 2024

AFTER he serves a 40 year sentence in FedMax, has his citizenship stripped for violation of the oath of loyalty he took when he was naturalized, and has every asset seized as a fine.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

samsingh

(18,469 posts)
8. how can the military trust anything they buy from elon musk who appears to be working for Putin and Xi?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:41 PM
Sep 2024
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
32. Unfortunately there is no replacement company.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:32 PM
Sep 2024

Even NASA is forced to work with him to bring the astronauts back because NASA has no way of doing it.

mtngirl47

(1,259 posts)
12. I'm working on a new internet access for me and my business
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 04:02 PM
Sep 2024

We're still over a year away for broadband to come up my mountain valley.

Everyone keeps raving about Starlink.....but I refuse to subsidize that man and his delusions of running the world.

Hoping that he gets some competition.

haele

(15,592 posts)
18. There's competition being developed....
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 04:25 PM
Sep 2024

Amazon is developing Kuiper, a low earth, high bandwidth commercial satellite constellation. It should be coming online soon, they're supposed to be launching soon. They're probably the closest feature for feature to Starlink.
There's also OneWeb, ViaSat (before Starlink, but a larger set-up that is harder to replace or fix and doesn't provide as much coverage), AST (in development) and a couple other European and South African constellations, also.
License costs for users, coverage, handover times and bandwidth vary, so check if you can find an alternative that will work for your needs. A lot of Starlink buys are based on Elon's marketing ploys, instead of of actual needs.

Haele

Wild blueberry

(8,370 posts)
21. End all his U.S. national security contracts, effective immediately
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 04:45 PM
Sep 2024

NASA, Starlink, everything. Confiscate every connection to our military, national security, all of it. Let him work in Russia.

 

Bonx

(2,353 posts)
27. Adam needs to slow his roll
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 04:59 PM
Sep 2024

"Starlink is owned and operated by entrepreneur Elon Musk's aerospace firm, SpaceX, and accounts for a huge percentage of active satellites. Musk has vehemently denied that Starlink is being sold to Russia.

SpaceX said earlier this year that it does not "do business of any kind with the Russian government or its military."

"Starlink is not active in Russia, meaning service will not work in that country," the company said in a statement. "SpaceX has never sold or marketed Starlink in Russia, nor has it shipped equipment to locations in Russia. If Russian stores are claiming to sell Starlink for service in that country, they are scamming their customers."

"If SpaceX obtains knowledge that a Starlink terminal is being used by a sanctioned or unauthorized party, we investigate the claim and take actions to deactivate the terminal if confirmed," the company added.

A Kremlin spokesperson said in February that Starlink is "not a certified system with us" and therefore "cannot be used officially in any way."

But back in May, the then-assistant secretary of defense for space policy in the Pentagon, John Plumb, told Bloomberg that the U.S. was "heavily involved in working with the government of Ukraine and SpaceX to counter Russian illicit use of Starlink terminals."

"At this time we have successfully countered Russian use," Plumb added at the time. "But I am certain Russia will continue to try and find ways to exploit Starlink and other commercial communications systems."

Russia's use of Starlink will continue to be a problem, he said."

Lovie777

(23,709 posts)
29. Musk is a Russian asset......................
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:03 PM
Sep 2024

I don't trust Starlink nor anything else he's got his greedy nasty hands on.

rubbersole

(11,275 posts)
30. He is at least an asset...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:18 PM
Sep 2024

I'm worried that it could be much worse. When he interferes in the upcoming election, besides his platforming nazis on 'X', he needs to be held accountable. He's a diabolical narcissist that doesn't believe in boundaries. Much worse than tsf. Musk has real money.

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