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LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:41 PM Sep 2024

SNL have they gone downhill?

Watching it now. Find their skit on Kamala disgusting. Is that the best they can do? Or am I just getting old?

Did more with Kamala about nothing. Then ridiculed Biden. The Trump bit was short.

Made it look like they forced Biden to quit. The Biden Kamala close together was also shit.

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SNL have they gone downhill? (Original Post) LiberalFighter Sep 2024 OP
I think it's probably a bit of both. BannonsLiver Sep 2024 #1
Yeah, I thought what they did to Biden was uncalled for dhol82 Sep 2024 #2
The treatment of Biden was just mean. Dear_Prudence Sep 2024 #3
Yea ... never done that kind of bit before Lurker Deluxe Sep 2024 #18
Yes, they have awesomerwb1 Sep 2024 #4
People have been asking that for 50 years lol WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2024 #5
I've been a fan of SNL since middle school senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #6
An interesting thing to me is that Maya Rudolph is 7 years younger than Kamala dsc Sep 2024 #7
I've stopped watching SNL years ago. They're just not funny. jrthin Sep 2024 #8
Weekend update was the only skit I laughed at. Evergreen Emerald Sep 2024 #9
Only a little bit of it for me. LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #10
They've always been kind of hit or miss Bettie Sep 2024 #11
Everyone's going to get skewered on SNL. maxsolomon Sep 2024 #12
Personally if all they had were her mannerisms and catchphrases LiberalFighter Sep 2024 #21
did you want Rudolph to do a bad job? maxsolomon Sep 2024 #23
Love how she calls him happybird Sep 2024 #27
People have bitched and moaned about SNL's treatment of their candidate forever... PeaceWave Sep 2024 #13
Can't find it, but I recall Lorne Michaels once said people who say it was funnier years ago unblock Sep 2024 #14
It's this Sympthsical Sep 2024 #17
It's the same as it's ever been Sympthsical Sep 2024 #15
Really? Arthur_Frain Sep 2024 #16
This 1000%. Xavier Breath Sep 2024 #24
I agree. There's a reason holy fools were holy. nolabear Sep 2024 #31
It never had an 'uphill' to start from. Conjuay Sep 2024 #19
I dunno. It's a guilty pleasure we often enjoy still. Torchlight Sep 2024 #20
Yes. It's not the same. I say that with the realization that I'm "not the same" either and that comedy * Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #22
No, it was not very funny... Jack Valentino Sep 2024 #25
They've sucked for a while now. Slam Dems too much. Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #26
All of the media seems innocuous until election season. live love laugh Sep 2024 #28
IMO, SNL has gone downhill since their original cast left Wednesdays Sep 2024 #29
It was bad... JT45242 Sep 2024 #30
They have been going downhill for decades. I watched the opening Saturday and couldn't stay awake doc03 Sep 2024 #32

dhol82

(9,651 posts)
2. Yeah, I thought what they did to Biden was uncalled for
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:47 PM
Sep 2024

Just unnecessary to make him look like a demented fool.

Not sure why the writing got so bad but I think they need to bring in some fresh blood.

Dear_Prudence

(1,180 posts)
3. The treatment of Biden was just mean.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:48 PM
Sep 2024

Yes, I used to like Joan Rivers, queen of mean. But if you are going to be mean, you better be really funny. SNL wasn't funny to me.

awesomerwb1

(5,114 posts)
4. Yes, they have
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:49 PM
Sep 2024

I only watch the short videos posted on Twitter, and some are really not funny at all.

senseandsensibility

(25,185 posts)
6. I've been a fan of SNL since middle school
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:52 PM
Sep 2024

but I don't think they're meeting the challenge of the times. Just as with journalism, good comedy standards can not just be "make fun of both sides." The sides are not the same. The spoofs of cheato should be darker and more sarcastic and based on his extremely dangerous policy positions. I don't think lighthearted ribbing of cheato meets the moment.

dsc

(53,416 posts)
7. An interesting thing to me is that Maya Rudolph is 7 years younger than Kamala
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:52 PM
Sep 2024

and in an industry where appearance tends to matter, and Kamala actually looks younger. It just shows how good Harris actually looks.

jrthin

(5,227 posts)
8. I've stopped watching SNL years ago. They're just not funny.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 02:56 PM
Sep 2024

Unless if mean is the new funny. I think they helped to push the "Biden is too old meme" from the beginning.

maxsolomon

(38,918 posts)
12. Everyone's going to get skewered on SNL.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:24 PM
Sep 2024

Carvey's Biden was lazy. Pretty predictable. It would have been harder to do a "Dark Brandon" Joe.

Rudolph incorporated a lot of Harris' mannerisms and catchphrases, even the tone of her voice. It's pretty impressive.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
21. Personally if all they had were her mannerisms and catchphrases
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:49 PM
Sep 2024

Then they didn't have much.

Time wise they spent more time on that then anything else.

maxsolomon

(38,918 posts)
23. did you want Rudolph to do a bad job?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:58 PM
Sep 2024

people love Rudolph as Kamala and have for years. she LIKES Harris.

PeaceWave

(3,624 posts)
13. People have bitched and moaned about SNL's treatment of their candidate forever...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:26 PM
Sep 2024

And, guess what? That's the whole point of irreverent humor - to diss on anyone, anything and everything - no matter how sacrosanct you consider that person or thing to be. They're obviously doing something right, since the show has been on air for 50 freaking years and it'll probably be on for another 50.

unblock

(56,230 posts)
14. Can't find it, but I recall Lorne Michaels once said people who say it was funnier years ago
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:28 PM
Sep 2024

Forget that it was never very funny.

If you think about it, most of the actual jokes are in weekend update and sometimes the opening monologue. The rest are skits, which are very hit or miss, mostly miss.

When they find a skit that works, they run it different "episodes" of the same skit over and over, and a lot of the time the humor is more from the familiarity of it than true creative humor.

Sympthsical

(11,034 posts)
17. It's this
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sep 2024

People remember the really good skits and forget the bad and, well, forgettable. And given just how many skits SNL puts out, people forget just how much did not work from a given season. If you get 10 memorable skits from a season, it's been a pretty good season.

Nostalgia is just remembering the handful that worked and forgetting how many dragged on, had deflated punchlines, or ended awkwardly.

The show has always been like that, and I've been watching for over 30 years now since I was in middle school.

Sympthsical

(11,034 posts)
15. It's the same as it's ever been
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:32 PM
Sep 2024

I think it's mostly entertaining. Some skits work really well (romance math problems, Moo Deng) and some miss (I Love Lucy).

Weekend Update is usually pretty good.

People who want their politics affirmed shouldn't watch SNL (or any political comedy really). They skewer everyone. I thought the cold open was fantastic. But people who are very serious about their politics and cannot countenance them being mocked won't like it.

I read this guy, Dennis Perkins, who reviews SNL every week. And he just gets steaming, incandescently angry that the show isn't basically all his preferred politics all the time. Sometimes he's just raging.

It's like, bro. Maybe SNL's not for you. It hasn't been whatever you think you want it to be ever.

Arthur_Frain

(2,398 posts)
16. Really?
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sep 2024

Lest we become too much like our pearl clutching nemesis on the other side I’d say lighten up Francis.

Biggest difference is we have the ability to find the humor in the absurdities of some of the positions we have to occupy in contrast and defiance to the complete inability to read the room on their side. Writ large, we can laugh at ourselves without losing our self respect. Their lack of empathy makes this impossible for them to do. The usefulness of this ability should not be minimized.


Take a walk, touch grass, take a deep breath, then if you feel up to it, watch it again, and specifically try to laugh at it. Trust me, it’s cathartic.

Xavier Breath

(6,662 posts)
24. This 1000%.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 06:07 PM
Sep 2024

Pearl-clutching is an apt description. I found the Biden bit funny. People are so sensitive about the election that it seems any portrayal short of fawning praise is seen as a threat to our very democracy.

It's their job to make fun of politicians. Politicians you dislike and politicians you worship. Everybody's fair game. Just keep telling yourself that if a sketch gets too rough for you to handle. Then maybe reflect on how silly it is to let a sketch on a late-night comedy show affect you that way.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
31. I agree. There's a reason holy fools were holy.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:06 PM
Sep 2024

The fool was the one person with permission to take everybody down a notch without retribution. We need to know we’re funny with our habits and flaws. Joe DOES use the same phrases again and again. Maya’s Kamala was a spot on exaggeration.

I think they didn’t do much with the former guy because he’s not interesting any more. JD is novel and scary and weird.

I wish we laughed more. It doesn’t diminish the awareness of the terrible things happening; it just gives us some much needed relief, as the holy fool did.

Torchlight

(6,922 posts)
20. I dunno. It's a guilty pleasure we often enjoy still.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 04:16 PM
Sep 2024

Granted, I'm not very evolved in regards to humor, and she's most likely watching it only to humor me, but I get more than a couple of belly laughs the nights we watch. Never really saw any agenda out of them other than equal-opportunity, for-profit ridicule of the elite.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
22. Yes. It's not the same. I say that with the realization that I'm "not the same" either and that comedy *
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 05:52 PM
Sep 2024

* is like fashion with trends that come and go. But, this is really not up to what I remember from Dan Aykroyd, John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Jane Curtin, Garrett Morris, Laraine Newman, and America's Sweetheart: Gilda Radner.

Jack Valentino

(5,143 posts)
25. No, it was not very funny...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:21 PM
Sep 2024

Rather a disappointment for the season opener. I don't watch it that much,
the only reason I've seen any of it at all lately is because of the attention
paid to them on this site--- I suppose I've only seen one or two of them live over the past year.

live love laugh

(16,429 posts)
28. All of the media seems innocuous until election season.
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:40 PM
Sep 2024

It’s all laughs and fun and games and tabloids then their real positions begin to show.

Post election they’ll return to trivialities hopefully lulling everyone back to sleep.

Wednesdays

(22,826 posts)
29. IMO, SNL has gone downhill since their original cast left
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 10:44 PM
Sep 2024

1980.

I'd tune in every once in a great while, but not like in the 1970's, when it was practically never-miss for me.

JT45242

(4,066 posts)
30. It was bad...
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:01 PM
Sep 2024

It wasn't even a good job at bumbling Biden. They went for cheap easy laugh. It was lazy writing.
, lazy acting, and just poor comedy. Not because they went after Biden, but because it was poorly done. It was generic Mr Magoo without vision problems. Dana Carvey should know better.

Mostly the writing is bad these days.

You get a couple of good skits that often run too long ...they have a 3 minute idea that they try to stretch to 8.

The spoof songs and fake ads have been the best part other than weekend update for several years."short ass movie" has become a catch phrase in our house like some of the old great lines.

doc03

(39,117 posts)
32. They have been going downhill for decades. I watched the opening Saturday and couldn't stay awake
Mon Sep 30, 2024, 11:15 PM
Sep 2024

for the Weekend Update. Their musical guest Jellyroll my gawd. I guess all my favorites have passed away, I am 76.

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