The Economy, it was 4 fucking years ago!

[edhopper]

We aren't talking decades. I was there, you were there. We had high unemployment and a questionable recovery from a global pandemic, where America fared worse that many other countries.
We went through a period of global inflation and corporate greed where we fared better than most other countries.
Because of Biden's leadership, inflation is curbed, unemployment is low and wages are up.
The Economy is better by every metric under Biden.
How do people not remember that Trump was a failure, it was 4 fucking years ago?

[Emile]

1. The invisible power of the Magic R makes

Republican voters stupid.

[musclecar6]

6. Yes

The overwhelming majority of Republican voters are stupid. The overwhelming majority of Republican voters should all be voting Democrat.

THEY are NOT In the 1% 2% or 5% of the most wealthy members of society. THEY are in the rest of society. The middle and lower class. The Republican party does not give a fuck about them. The Republican party are for the people at the top.

ERGO The 95% who vote Republican are stupid. They are voting against their own self interest. In recent times, they are listening to a con man, liar, and a cheat who has manipulated the ever living fuck out of them to vote against her own self interest. With his ridiculous Rally parties that they all can't wait to get to.

When some of these dumb shits have finally figured it out that they've been had, of course they can't admit they were wrong to the likes of us. So some will continue to vote for him and even when he tells them he's gonna be a modern day Hitler. He's not even hiding it.

So to say that they continue to be stupid is a huge understatement. Just fucking morons.

[Probatim]

7. Willfully ignorant and brainwashed.

They live in an alternate reality from the rest of us.

We go shopping without fear - they're told you'll get murdered when you try to shop for bread.

We live in small towns and large cities across the US and go about our business with no issues - they're told towns and cities around the country are on fire.

We live and talk with people from all walks of life and are better for it - they're told rapists and murderers are coming to steal our jobs, rape and kill us and our pets, and take all of the welfare.

They thrive on hate and fear and refuse to look past their noses. And I'm not sure there's anything we can do to get past this.

[dchill]

17. You've just said a mouthful. Kudos!

[Mr.Bill]

21. The first two words of your thread title

are the polar opposite of "woke".

[Kid Berwyn]

2. Corporate McPravda has never held Pisswig to account.

They treat Dimdonnie Drumpf like he were some kind of stateman instead of the crazy moronic traitor he is.

[magicarpet]

3. Relentless propaganda is a very effective tool

... to manage and sway public perceptions to get them to believe something which is categorically not true or at all accurate.

[Johnny2X2X]

4. +1000

But the media seems to be giving Trump a pass on Covid, even though he botched it badly leading to the inflation and economic downturn. But the bigger problem is people just believe Trump's "greatest economy ever" nonsense. Before Covid ever hit, Trump did not have some great economy. His jobs creation record was flat out bad. He inherited low UE. Growth was tepid at best. The rich were doig great, but wage growth was tiny compared to under Biden and basrely kept up with inflation. More people were uninsured. Retirment accounts were lower. Crime was higher. Before Covid hit, things were not great under Trump.

[dchill]

19. They can't wait for him to shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue...

...so they can give him a pass on that, while criticizing Democrats for failing at something else they've actually succeeded in doing.

[SocialDemocrat61]

5. But, but, but Covid

This is the current media narrative that everyone in the corrupt corporate media falls back on to give Trump a pass.

[padfun]

8. I still think that years of Rush Limbaugh was a main cause

I saw how many young men listened to him and learned to hate democrats. This was as far back as the late 70's and Rush was full force out there on the AM airwaves polluting young people's minds.

And it seldom was challenged. Air America had a brief stint, but liberals weren't much for listening to AM. I never listened to it after 1973 when I graduated from high school and moved from my small redneck town to the metro of Phoenix. It was all FM after that.

But I would still run into rednecks who would preach the "wisdom" of Rush.

[Ohioboy]

13. Rush had a lot to do with the division our country is experiencing

He'd only be making things worse if he was still alive.

[IronLionZion]

9. And how are GOP claiming we're in recession while we're in labor shortage with record high stock market?

People are buying up tons of stuff and corporations are charging high prices because consumers will pay it.

I'm not sure if I'm still stealing people's jobs or their pets or both somehow.

[markie]

10. because of this......

https://democraticunderground.com/100219519419

[lastlib]

11. Only four years ago, but.....

Hannity et al, have had a lot of shows since then.....

[live love laugh]

12. Trump tariffs tanked the economy and continue to a lesser degree thanks to Biden.

[lees1975]

14. Democrats are always better for the economy.

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2024/09/democrats-are-always-better-for-economy.html

The stock market has reached record territory. Economic policy of the current administration has led to the quickest, and deepest recovery from the inflation that affected the global economy, and has managed it well, with interest rates and a careful balance of spending which has kept a recession completely out of the conversation. In spite of the fact that we went through the inflation experience, and did see a rise in fuel prices, we also experienced wage growth, once we went through the COVID fluctuations, that topped out at 6.9% and has managed to stay relatively high, compared to the Trump administrations figures on the same economic measure.

And we've had steady, GNP growth at 3% or higher. Sustained.

And of course, we have had the longest period of sustained job growth and low unemployment in literally decades. The last three Democrats in the White House have combined for the creation of 51.3 million jobs, while Republicans in the White House since then have accounted for 1.3 million. Of course, Republicans have tried to convolute and twist those facts a thousand ways from Sunday, with no luck, because they are facts that can't be disputed. The last Republican in the White House accounted for the loss of 2.7 million jobs, another indisputable fact. And while there was a pandemic going on, mismanagement of it from the White House, inept and incompetent by the nicest of possible descriptions, was a major cause of the loss of jobs and the high unemployment inherited by the Biden administration.

[Bev54]

15. There seems to be some kind of collective amnesia that used to infect people after 8 years

now it is down to 4 years.

[GopherGal]

23. I kind of had to remind the pharmacist...

when I got my flu and COVID shots today, she handed me a $5 store coupon, so I immediately asked where the toilet paper was. With a potential dockworker strike coming, I figured that since what we ran out of first four years ago was toilet paper, I'd use my $5 coupon and my 15 minutes of waiting to make sure I didn't have an anaphylactic reaction to get a head start on kinda-hoarding toilet paper..

[JustAnotherGen]

16. They don't WANT to

A lot of Americans buy the bullshit hook, line, and sinker.

You remember, and I remember -

But they only remember what suits their narrative of the failure points in their lives.

[maxsolomon]

18. He gets credit for Obama's economy.

People idealize the pre-Covid past because the nation has PTSD and has never dealt with it.

[Scalded Nun]

20. You'd be surprised just how well blinders work

Anyone with reasonable self-awareness remembers just how fucked this country was 4 years ago.

You know there is an alternate reality when over half the country thinks this multi-level loser is better at handling the economy, especially given some of the shit that has come out of his mouth in the last few weeks.

That we even have these conversations is a stark example as to how effective the GOP war on education has been.

[jaxexpat]

22. Could be that every time somebody lies about the facts.........

heretofore reliable news sources refuse to call out the lies.
Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.
It's the Monty Hall version of the news media come to roost. Except Monty wasn't totally evil. Just cheeky and smarmy.