BREAKING - Just heard on BBC radio - Mass shooting in Tel Aviv

[wnylib]

Believed to be a terrorist attack.

Also, missiles launched at Israel from Iran.

Too soon for more details.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

1. scary times.

[wnylib]

2. Yes indeed. Very scary.

[TheProle]

3. CNN Live Feed

https://www.cnn.com/videos/live

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

4. live feed.

[wnylib]

5. Thank you for the link. This is all out regional war now.

Iran, Israel, Lebanon and ....?

Israel now has a ground war in Lebanon and a home front attack from Iran.

[Renew Deal]

6. 8 dead, 7 injured

[wnylib]

7. Yes, the live feed link from another poster here

says that the missile attacks on Israel are across the country now, not confined to Tel Aviv.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

8. jpost says 4 dead, 9 wounded

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822839

[wnylib]

11. BBC now reporting that the majority of the missiles were intercepted,

but some did get through to cause damage and deaths.

[Initech]

9. I seriously feel like we're teetering on the edge of World War III.

[wnylib]

10. Yes, we are.

[WarGamer]

13. The Doomsday clock is the closest to midnight since it's inception.

It will get even closer in January when they update.

[Jk23]

16. Which honestly is very silly

I'm not saying we're completely peace around the world but the concept that we're closer to the war now than we were in the early 60s or the early eighties is insane.

They've tried to change it to be part of warming or Plastics in the water or something but realistically it's just silly at this point.

[WarGamer]

17. I disagree... the proxy war in Ukraine and now the antics of Nuttyahoo have the world at a boil.

[sheshe2]

37. Thank goodness HAMAS had nothing at all to do with this!!!

‘Nuttyahoo’, he is the one that started this all by murdering, raping, burning and torturing innocent Palestinians on October 7.

Oh, wait….

[Initech]

42. And he's a friend of Fuckstick Von Clownface.

What could possibly go wrong?

[WarGamer]

12. Fortunately for Israel, it wasn't 2000lb JDMAMs crushing residential blocks. right?

[wnylib]

14. Whatever.

[sarisataka]

18. Because getting shot is so much less dead

Than getting killed by a bomb.

Comments like this reveal the emptiness of concern for "innocent civilians". These individuals were not collateral damage, they were the TARGETS of the attack.

They are not military or government leaders, just average people on the street killed for daring to be Israelis.

The response is not condemnation but diminishment.

[WarGamer]

19. I gently remind you that Lebanese civilians live near terrorists by design...

Good planning avoids strikes that kill civilians.

[sarisataka]

21. Still overlooking

That these people killed didn't live next door to Netanyahu and were killed by being too close. These civilians were the objective of the attack.

The good planning of this strike was to kill civilians.

[WarGamer]

23. I hear ya... and I don't like it

But it's reality

[sarisataka]

35. It is a sad reality

A few other realities are this incident will receive maybe a tenth the attention, there will not be any 200 post thread about war crimes and no one will call on the UN to pass a resolution.

[iemanja]

32. Getting shot is very much the same dead

I hope you keep that in mind during the next domestic mass shooting.

[sarisataka]

33. Your point?

What does a terrorist attack in Israel have to do with US mass shootings?
Why do you seem to think i wouldn't consider those victims dead?

[iemanja]

34. It's more your position on guns that I was referring to

The commonality is the lethality of gun violence.

[sarisataka]

36. Ah so something entirely unconnected, got it.

Since you bring it up.I have never denied that guns are lethal (to be specific it is the bullet but I don't quibble much on terminology- call it a clip and I know what you mean)

What is it about my position on guns that is objectionable? Support for expanded background checks, red flag laws, safe storage laws, enforcement of straw purchase laws...? I have long supported reasonable gun control legislation.

[iemanja]

38. but not a ban on assault rifles

am I right?

It's only connected in that you made the accurate observation that being dead from guns is the same as being dead from bombs. I agreed with you. Gun violence killed people in Israel (I'm assuming), while it's the number one killer of children in the US. AR-15s are the weapon of choice.

[sarisataka]

39. You are correct

Aa i have said in the past my position is trying to ban the so-called assault rifles is a waste of effort and political capital for a small potential return.

AR-15s and their cousins account for less than 3% of all gun deaths IIRC. We have spent years and lost elections at various levels trying to get a ban passed.

I believe that effort would have been much better spent going after the less glamorous but more broad effect laws I listed. Success on 1 or 2 of them may have saved hundreds if not thousands of lives, but instead we may myopically focused on the holy grail of an assault rifle ban.

[iemanja]

40. I agree those reforms would be a great start

but somehow even that is deemed unacceptable by the courts.

[sarisataka]

41. We agree on SCOTUS

Their current interpretations are made with head firmly in recdumb

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. Just had to throw that in didn't you?

[Demsrule86]

15. No, Iran launched missiles on CNN now.

[Prairie Gates]

20. There was ALSO a mass shooting

[wnylib]

26. BBC reported that the mass shooting was carried out by

two terrorists who are now dead.

[DSandra]

22. If Palestinian supporters think that a war against terrorists is not an acceptable response...

Then was it not acceptable for America to fight back after 9/11? You can't just sit there and take it when your population is being terrorized by terrorists. This world punishes the weak, and being weak is a betrayal to your people, and thus unacceptable.

[Prairie Gates]

27. Was thism Perplexity, or Claude?

[surfered]

24. Latest on shooting from Jerusalem Post

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822839

[Bev54]

28. Thanks, had TV off because I can't watch during the day, too much stupid.

I now have BBC on and they are talking about the missiles but not yet about a mass shooting.

[wnylib]

29. The mass shooting occurred just before the first missiles hit Tel Aviv.

[Bev54]

30. Ah ok, that is why it has been bumped.

[onandup]

31. Netanyahoo celebrating, no doubt

Exactly the fuel he needs for broader war.

[wnylib]

43. Because, of course, Netanyahu forced Iran to attack Israel.

[onandup]

44. Deliberate provocation

His goal is a wider war and keeping himself free from criminal prosecution. This is a positive step for him.

[wnylib]

45. .