Walz needs to be more aggressive. This debate isn't going to change anyone's mind, but so far I think they are going to

[JohnSJ]

say vance won, not on substance, but because he is slick.

[superpatriotman]

1. This debate should not even be happening

It equivocates evil with good, and I cant tolerate evil.

[mucifer]

2. Yeah I had to turn it off. I can't handle the lies.

[samnsara]

13. im doing a cbs survey right after so i have to watch it but i have to mute vance

..the survey results will air right after wards, if i have to grade him i c would say a B and vance a C

[AkFemDem]

3. I think hes doing GREAT by staying Midwest Nice actually

He's not super agressive, he's EFFICIENT though.

[Docreed2003]

4. Agreed

Vance is aggressively dropping lies and rw bs, and he needs to push back on this shit harder

[JohnSJ]

6. won't happen. it isn't in his personality

[spanone]

5. He's slick as slug shit.

[AkFemDem]

7. Huh???

[H2O Man]

9. Slimy.

[spanone]

10. Professional liar.

[H2O Man]

11. The kid that

no one trusted -- or liked -- in school.

[spanone]

12. Absolutely.

[H2O Man]

8. "They"?

I trust everyone on our side who is watching is capable of deciding.

[JohnSJ]

15. It isn't "our side" that need to be convinced. It is the undecided. I will be surprised if the MSM, and their stupid

focus groups say they are convinced, especially with Walz, and even vance both saying they agree with each other..

[H2O Man]

16. That's fine.

I don't think many undecided voters are going to vote for the felon based on this debate.

[mzmolly]

14. Walz is coming across as likable and

even Vance seemingly appears to agree with much of what he's saying.

[Johnny2X2X]

17. Walz is cleaning his clock now

First 30 minutes was Vance. Last hour all Walz.