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(42,283 posts)displacedvermoter
(4,496 posts)great ad spot, the rest of the night did not matter!
Conjuay
(3,067 posts)Timeflyer
(3,756 posts)PCIntern
(28,365 posts)But I suppose it depends upon what kind of country you want to live in. 😳
3catwoman3
(29,404 posts)💥 🥊
NJCher
(43,161 posts)Eom
DinahMoeHum
(23,604 posts)for the Harris/Walz team's locker room. Tee hee.
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)3catwoman3
(29,404 posts)southmost
(834 posts)and shows Vance's very expensive education isnt always the best education
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)But, speaking of earnest, Walzs facial expressions during that exchange, combined with his words, were as authentic as it gets.
Link to tweet
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ProudMNDemocrat
(20,896 posts)He was nervous at first, but soon as he settled down, Tim went to work. Tim schooled JD in a manner that went right over JD's head.
What the American people saw and heard was a man who cares about this country, its people, and its future. He spoke directly into the camera so we could hear him solidify the Harris/Walz commitment to the ideals of what this country stands for. A stark difference was drawn.
It's now up to the voters to ask themselves what kind of country they want. One where they have a shot to get ahead! Or one where the doors are closed to opportunity of any kind.
I know what kind of country I want.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)"Trump said people should protest peacefully, and (yadda yadda yadda) on Jan. 20 he turned over power."
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)Mad_Machine76
(24,957 posts)Trump and his minions slow walked and obstructed the ordinary and orderly transition to a new Preside (i.e. witholding funding, preventing the Biden transition team from full access), continued to spread lies about the election and promulgated conspiracy theories about the outcome, culminating in Trump fomenting a riot on January 6 that he didn't lift a finger to stop for several hours and, in fact, appeared to have even obstructed efforts to intervene earlier via the National Guard.
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)Remember when Republicans were SO incensed that Clinton staffers supposedly removed the Ws from computer keyboards on their way out of the White House? Not exactly murder and treason like January 6th.
Good times.
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lame54
(39,758 posts)He slinked away and left it for Joe to pick off the floor
He was MIA that day
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)It transfers from president to president automatically through no further action or inaction on the part of the outgoing office-holder.
I half wonder if Trump hoped that by not attending Joe Biden's inauguration, he thought he might be able to withhold "handing over" power. "I wasn't there to give it to him, so he isn't President!"
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lame54
(39,758 posts)ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)Losing ANYTHING is anathema to him. He was raised by old Fred to regard losing as the worst thing that could ever happen to a person.
He also can't stand to not be the center of attention. Attending an inauguration that wasn't his own would be both a public admission of failure AND taking a back seat to someone else. Either of those things would be intolerable to him, much less both at once!
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)Attending Biden's inauguration would've squashed his Big Lie so he couldn't fund-raise off of it.
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ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)I never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense!
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)And when asked about accepting the results of the 2020 election, Vance suddenly said, uh, I'm focused on the future.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)KS Toronado
(23,727 posts)and Vance gave them more reasons to vote for Kamala/Tim last night.
Beartracks
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DFW
(60,182 posts)We'd be foolish not to use it.
All Vance had to say was, "yes, Joe Biden won the 2020 election," and the whole subject would have been a non-issue.
Biden has been president for almost four years and he's not running for re-election. Vance had nothing to lose at this
point. What does he think he's going to do? Initiate six more months' worth of lawsuits to end a presidency that ends in four months?
But, no, he just couldn't bring himself to say the words. Fine. We'll take it from here, thank you very much.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)If they admit 2020 was lost. So that would be a big cost.
DFW
(60,182 posts)Even their base is aware that Biden has been in the White House since January 20th, 2021.
On second thought, I may be a bit optimistic with that assumption.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)That he stole the election. That propaganda has been catapulted for four years , and they want to believe it.
FakeNoose
(41,630 posts)
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Play this ad over & over till it's seared into the minds of Ohioans the wretched guy is a traitor.
FakeNoose
(41,630 posts)That doesn't happen often though, it takes about 2 years to get it done.
malaise
(296,085 posts)Rec
Pinback
(13,600 posts)OverBurn
(1,292 posts)DownriverDem
(7,014 posts)could copy and post the ad.
anamnua
(1,510 posts)Until this knockout blow.
kentuck
(115,406 posts)usonian
(25,303 posts)



And there are others.
NH Ethylene
(31,343 posts)Walz was perfect in that exchange.
marble falls
(71,919 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,905 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)They should run this ad from now to election day, in my opinion.
TommieMommy
(2,900 posts)yorkster
(3,832 posts)Powerful words....
Down goes Frazier.
FakeNoose
(41,630 posts)... but this was like a birthday gift. Tim knew exactly how to respond.

anamnua
(1,510 posts)Being soft-spoken and non-confrontational all along in order to lure his opponent into this sucker punch.
MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)Didn't the "censorship" occur mainly under Trump
Demovictory9
(37,113 posts)amb123
(1,599 posts)Martin68
(27,741 posts)Donald Trump."
Roc2020
(1,787 posts)rendered everything else he said in the debate irrelevant.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)All they have to do is act naturally and Kamala's team makes ads out of every word. I love it!
Harris/Walz 2024!
sarge43
(29,173 posts)There's no coming back from that.
Cha
(319,067 posts)orangecrush
(30,247 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(135,697 posts)jmowreader
(53,193 posts)"It's really rich for Democratic leaders to claim that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power..."
"JD, what in hell are you talking about? On January 6, 2021, he launched an insurrection with the goal of throwing the election into the House of Representatives where it would be decided in his favor. We will probably be arresting and locking up Trump supporters for the next ten years over that, and we'll probably never catch them all. There was nothing peaceful about the transfer of power in 2021."
SupportSanity
(1,582 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,905 posts)calimary
(90,017 posts)We cant get rid of the donald soon enough!