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Deep State Witch

(12,713 posts)
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 03:46 PM Oct 2024

Report of Armed Men Patrolling In NC

This was from a friend in Black Mountain, NC. Names have been removed.

Angry and concerned today.
Yesterday there were two armed fake police officers controlling entry to my neighborhood.
They were wearing shirts that identified them as members of Men in Black, Disaster Relief.
The one who stopped me and asked me where I was going gave me a gaslight answer when I asked him what authority he had; had they been brought in by our Sheriff, by FEMA, by?
He babbled about coming in through Jacksonville, blah blah blah, then said they were police officers from Arkansas.
Last night, after dark, there were two of them walking on my street, wearing vests, trying to look official. They were wearing handguns and carrying long rifles of the AR variety.
My husband was on the porch putting up a clothes line, using a bright light so he could see. They stopped and from the street demanded to know if we had power.
I had to drive to a place with phone service to place a call to the Sheriff’s Department non-emergency number. I reported the earlier contact and the two armed men walking in my neighborhood. A deputy was supposed to come to the house to talk with me and my husband.
A deputy did try to call 3 times after I got home but we have no phone service at the house.
They never showed up in response to a call about armed individuals.
This morning my husband talked to the Homeland Security officer at Grovemont Park who told him that the MIB are not supposed to be here and they have no authority whatsoever over anyone or anything.
TBH, the entire situation reeks.
Yes, we had looters. Yes, there are reports of break-ins happening. Yes, we were happy when we had our own Sheriff’s deputies stationed at the end of the street.
But this…this is not acceptable.
If you encounter any of these Men in Black, please report them to the Sheriff’s Department or Homeland Security. Also please tell them to piss off and go home. They are violating people’s 4th Amendment rights!!

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Report of Armed Men Patrolling In NC (Original Post) Deep State Witch Oct 2024 OP
Scary stuff, they obviously have no problem with assuming authority they don't have a right to. Think. Again. Oct 2024 #1
You know where the police did show up, in a force of about 15 cruisers/vans? Coexist Oct 2024 #2
Well, it's not great that somebody stole a lot of weapons. yardwork Oct 2024 #58
Aren't they trespassing? Paseo Mundial Oct 2024 #3
Not Me Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #62
Important malaise Oct 2024 #4
Place is going Walking Dead fast Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #5
No, it's not and that's very insensitive. Because we're littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #35
My son is in Asheville and he says everyone is pulling together. yardwork Oct 2024 #56
Appreciate your report. Stay safe, stay well... Hekate Oct 2024 #6
Did a search for Men in Black, Disaster Relief soandso Oct 2024 #7
More on that guy TommyT139 Oct 2024 #12
It would not surprise me soandso Oct 2024 #15
Looks like "retired" and "former" TommyT139 Oct 2024 #17
I have no clue soandso Oct 2024 #21
Either that, or... Moosepoop Oct 2024 #13
I would not assume they are cosplaying or planning a career. I would assume they are looking for immigrants or Martin68 Oct 2024 #48
What is a "certified law enforcement officer?" yardwork Oct 2024 #55
Thanks! Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #63
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Oct 2024 #8
Take their pictures and file charges with the .. Botany Oct 2024 #9
Their response TommyT139 Oct 2024 #14
They can get a shovel, a saw, log chains, and Botany Oct 2024 #18
My first thought..be a man and pick up a shovel to help Deuxcents Oct 2024 #39
or a woman. Thousands of wheel barrel loads need to be moved, a good clean path to Botany Oct 2024 #40
I went through Hugo with my Mother and Step-Father. Yes there was some looting and some break ins but then came Cheezoholic Oct 2024 #10
It wasn't hurricanes which first started markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #49
Yes! soandso Oct 2024 #66
unfortunately azureblue Oct 2024 #11
Do you live in WNC? littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #20
Arkansas ain't local man and the area described isn't what you suggest. Re-read the post, it's a neighborhood n/t Cheezoholic Oct 2024 #22
They were not invited in by the residents or cops. They invaded. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #26
Nobody asked for their "help". Elessar Zappa Oct 2024 #31
I haven't heard that that is happening, no. yardwork Oct 2024 #60
Morons with guns, deciding to answer the call to help, Warpy Oct 2024 #16
They sound kind of like looters to me! Casing out the place... Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #19
Black Mountain has a curfew in place. LisaM Oct 2024 #23
And yet TommyT139 Oct 2024 #34
Yes, I know, but... LisaM Oct 2024 #38
For sure TommyT139 Oct 2024 #43
I don't want to name my friend who posted this Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #65
Well for one thing... LisaM Oct 2024 #67
Maybe I got Confused Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #69
Sounds like Kyle Rittenhouse wannabes AmBlue Oct 2024 #24
Indeed. Dangerous. orthoclad Oct 2024 #61
EXACTLY. Jack Valentino Oct 2024 #64
They are practicing for when they can start firing in the civil war they desire to "Reclaim America". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #25
RW PAC-funded blackshirts peppertree Oct 2024 #27
I outsmarted them. COL Mustard Oct 2024 #29
Hear, hear peppertree Oct 2024 #30
This is what we will all get if Trump gets in again. hadEnuf Oct 2024 #41
And they're counting on 2/3 of voters simply not believing "it could happen here" peppertree Oct 2024 #42
These thugs (like Kyle Rittenhouse) think that COL Mustard Oct 2024 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Oct 2024 #32
First, take them a bottle of water and thank them for helping out misanthrope Oct 2024 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Island Blue Oct 2024 #33
I'll assume they are white BWdem4life Oct 2024 #36
Whose authority are they under? What right do they have to be there? Initech Oct 2024 #37
Vigilantes. Nothing good can come of it...nt Wounded Bear Oct 2024 #45
These men are looking for opportunities to use the assault weapons they've invested in. dlk Oct 2024 #46
Keep reporting these assholes every chance you get to everyone you can think of. Martin68 Oct 2024 #47
Sounds to me like some soldier-wannabe MAGAts. 4lbs Oct 2024 #50
Kyle Rittenhouse/Zimmerman type jerkoffs ! oasis Oct 2024 #57
Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #51
That's terrible. Adding a touch more fright to the entire situation. Stay safe. Vinca Oct 2024 #52
Every major disaster draws opportunists and charlatans in droves pfitz59 Oct 2024 #53
I googled this brakester Oct 2024 #54
Men In Black? Bayard Oct 2024 #59
This is scary AF Iris Oct 2024 #68
Update: They're Gone Deep State Witch Oct 2024 #70
 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
1. Scary stuff, they obviously have no problem with assuming authority they don't have a right to.
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 03:51 PM
Oct 2024

That doesn't bode well for the election chaos they've been working on.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
2. You know where the police did show up, in a force of about 15 cruisers/vans?
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 2024

at the gun store that was broken into about 1/2 mile from my home. You'd have thought there was a hostage situation. Very interesting.

(I'm in Asheville)

Paseo Mundial

(23 posts)
3. Aren't they trespassing?
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 04:45 PM
Oct 2024

Do you have an HOA? If so, bylaws likely prohibit those men from loitering. This is deeply disturbing on many levels. and I suspect that are attempting to “spread goodwill” to legitimize their common law militia. Total BS. Do we need to send “No trespassing” signs to distribute in WNC? My husband is heading there next weekend, and I will send!

littlemissmartypants

(33,579 posts)
35. No, it's not and that's very insensitive. Because we're
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 07:03 PM
Oct 2024

Still finding out about deaths, recovering bodies.

Some people may be permanently lost, buried in mud and rock flows in the rivers, lakes and on the mountains.

Imagine never hearing from a loved one again.



yardwork

(69,360 posts)
56. My son is in Asheville and he says everyone is pulling together.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 03:54 PM
Oct 2024

These are outsiders causing trouble.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
7. Did a search for Men in Black, Disaster Relief
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:27 PM
Oct 2024

And only found this:

Men In Black Disaster Response Solutions was started by Troy Burleson of Arkansas; they recently helped in the midst of Hurricane Ida.

Glen Redding of Men In Black Disaster Response Solutions appeared on KHOZ’s Around The Table on Thursday to talk about the organization. He discussed some previous happenings when helping in the midst of disaster. They provide food, security and anything else needed during disaster. The organization also aids people on dialysis by making sure they have access to what they need in times of disaster. Everyone on the team is either current, retired or reserve police officers. “We’re on a mission to make people’s lives better,” Redding said.

The full interview with Redding is on Around The Table’s Facebook Page.

https://www.branson4u.com/news/local-news/men-in-black-disaster-solutions-still-on-mission/

Looked up Troy Burleson and found this:

I am a certified law-enforcement officer, Chief of Police with the City of Omaha and with Boone County sheriffs office in Boone county Arkansas.

More: https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burleson-3baa7a25

And a FB page with nothing on it:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Men%20In%20Black%20Disaster%20Response%20Solutions/172649286831571/

If they ASKED the residents if they can help them in any way, that would be okay, but they have no jurisdiction to be doing this, otherwise. My guess is they want to get in the security and disaster relief contracting business (big money) so are cosplaying.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
12. More on that guy
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:47 PM
Oct 2024
https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-burleson-3baa7a25

https://www.bahardtarget.net/our-instructors

There should be a way to find out if taxpayer dollars were used to pay or supply these jerkwads.

Some militia groups are taking advantage of disasters to "volunteer," burnish their reputations, and make connections with legitimate law enforcement.

A very Kyle Rittenhouse line of thinking - "protecting" where not invited.
 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
15. It would not surprise me
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:57 PM
Oct 2024

if this is how some contractors get their start. Financial motivation/ambition + wanna be whatever (though are out of state LE, I guess).

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
17. Looks like "retired" and "former"
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:03 PM
Oct 2024

My guess is there are more of these groups than anyone knows.

 

soandso

(1,631 posts)
21. I have no clue
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:08 PM
Oct 2024

If they're helpful and wanted, that's fine, but parading around and harassing people then fuck no.

Moosepoop

(2,075 posts)
13. Either that, or...
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:47 PM
Oct 2024

They're random randos claiming to be with the MIB outfit as cover when challenged. Not a good situation either way.

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
48. I would not assume they are cosplaying or planning a career. I would assume they are looking for immigrants or
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 12:05 PM
Oct 2024

minorities to shoot, with the excuse that they were suspected of looting.

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
55. What is a "certified law enforcement officer?"
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 03:53 PM
Oct 2024

You're either a sworn officer or you're not. Sounds like these are people who used to be cops but aren't anymore, or want to be cops and aren't.

Not good that they're wandering around a disaster zone. That just makes the search and rescue and relief efforts harder.

Botany

(77,315 posts)
9. Take their pictures and file charges with the ..
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:43 PM
Oct 2024

... County D.A. and Law Enforcement including
the State Police and the State A.G.'s office. A retired cop from Arkansas has zero authority in
N. Carolina to do what you say they're doing.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
14. Their response
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:53 PM
Oct 2024

Their response to a camera held by a resident should tell a lot.

And if a resident is nervous about taking a pic? Then they're effectively terrorists.

Botany

(77,315 posts)
18. They can get a shovel, a saw, log chains, and
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:03 PM
Oct 2024

or a hard rake and start working to open
up the roads and clean up somebody's
home and or properties. If they have law
enforcement backgrounds they MIGHT be
of help in getting traffic going.

Botany

(77,315 posts)
40. or a woman. Thousands of wheel barrel loads need to be moved, a good clean path to
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 08:19 PM
Oct 2024

… a front door, if people are still living in a structure support beams will be needed, and
a fire pit with a grill to make food and coffee. If these shits want to protect people and
properties and there has been problems then they can plant their asses on a front porch.

Btw I have done a clean up after a tornado in north central KY. After that I told myself never
complain about anything again. The things that make us Americans are much stronger than
the manufactured that has been pushed to keep us apart.

Btw. J.D. Guy-Liner would not last an hour if given the job of clearing the log jams under
a bridge over a creek that most of the time is 6 inches deep and Donny would be gone after
one half load of crushed stone in a wheel barrel.




Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
10. I went through Hugo with my Mother and Step-Father. Yes there was some looting and some break ins but then came
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:43 PM
Oct 2024

The roofers!! I mean every 2 bit roofer from 20 states showed up. Not "roofing contractors". These guys were the kind of roofers who had a rusty old smoke spewing pickup truck with 6 guys in the back with hammers and coolers full of beer. Not lying. By the thousands.

That was 1989. Now your friends down there are dealing with maybe those same guys or their kids but the same type only they aren't coming with hammers and beer, they're coming with weapons and beer (trust me, wherever they are staging from there's a cooler full of beer)!!

I'd approach them and throw a freakin' hammer in their hand and tell them to quit playing army and help.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
49. It wasn't hurricanes which first started
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 12:58 PM
Oct 2024

insurance companies leaving Florida. It was the roofing scams. Apparently around 70% of the home insurance fraud in the US was in Florida.


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/roofing-scams-florida-property-insurance-hurricane-rcna29649

azureblue

(2,728 posts)
11. unfortunately
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:46 PM
Oct 2024

It's kind of wild west in some areas there. No way for the cops to respond quick enough to stop looters, so locals are organizing their own defense teams.. People forget the area is mountains, and houses can be spread far apart and roads impassable. With no phones, much less electricity, it's every man for himself.

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
22. Arkansas ain't local man and the area described isn't what you suggest. Re-read the post, it's a neighborhood n/t
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:09 PM
Oct 2024

yardwork

(69,360 posts)
60. I haven't heard that that is happening, no.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 04:00 PM
Oct 2024

What I've heard from people who are actually living in affected areas is that people are helping one another out.

Nobody needs wandering groups of vigilantes.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
16. Morons with guns, deciding to answer the call to help,
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:00 PM
Oct 2024

as long as "helping" involves using their big, scary looking GUNS.

These knuckleheads will just never realize they're the problem, not the solution.

LisaM

(29,633 posts)
23. Black Mountain has a curfew in place.
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:10 PM
Oct 2024

I have to say that I am a bit suspicious of this story.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
34. And yet
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:59 PM
Oct 2024

And yet the narrator named an obscure group from outside the state that does exist and which claims to have done this work before, so....

LisaM

(29,633 posts)
38. Yes, I know, but...
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 07:48 PM
Oct 2024

Too often people take a story from one event and piggyback it onto another. I know that I am probably overly suspicious but I don't always believe second-hand anonymous accounts. Things are bad enough in those areas. You can't even walk around in Black Mountain at night.

TommyT139

(2,357 posts)
43. For sure
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 08:54 PM
Oct 2024

I was just using a little exegetical skill that would seem to tip things towards the story being true.

Deep State Witch

(12,713 posts)
65. I don't want to name my friend who posted this
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 07:59 PM
Oct 2024

But if you want, I can PM you with her name.

LisaM

(29,633 posts)
67. Well for one thing...
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 11:25 PM
Oct 2024

The park they mentioned is in Swannanoa, not Black Mountain. Swannanoa was hit really hard.

AmBlue

(3,460 posts)
24. Sounds like Kyle Rittenhouse wannabes
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:13 PM
Oct 2024

...looking for an excuse to *play* with their pew-pews. Be careful. I'd call the sheriff again in the morning!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
25. They are practicing for when they can start firing in the civil war they desire to "Reclaim America". . . . nt
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:35 PM
Oct 2024

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
27. RW PAC-funded blackshirts
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:37 PM
Oct 2024

Sounds like the GOPee is trying to get the public in swing states accustomed to seeing them on Election Day.

And if (God forbid) Cheeto takes office, you'll likely see them in many other places nationwide.

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
30. Hear, hear
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:40 PM
Oct 2024

Though, again, I suspect that if Needy Amin takes office - they'll become a recurring sight across the country.

hadEnuf

(3,613 posts)
41. This is what we will all get if Trump gets in again.
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 08:21 PM
Oct 2024

Self-appointed Gruppenfuhrers for your neighborhood. As long as they are MAGATs it will be okay with law enforcement, as they will have.already been purged and empowered by Trump.

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
42. And they're counting on 2/3 of voters simply not believing "it could happen here"
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 08:45 PM
Oct 2024

The other 1/3, meanwhile, are very much looking forward to the prospect.

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
28. These thugs (like Kyle Rittenhouse) think that
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 06:38 PM
Oct 2024

Their 2nd Amendment rights trump anyone else's 4th Amendment rights.

(I hope you see what I did there.)

Response to Deep State Witch (Original post)

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
44. First, take them a bottle of water and thank them for helping out
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 10:29 PM
Oct 2024

Then ask if you can have a photo "to show the world what real men look like." They'll likely let you snap away.

Response to Deep State Witch (Original post)

BWdem4life

(3,003 posts)
36. I'll assume they are white
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 07:31 PM
Oct 2024

Report to the sheriff that they are Black. That oughtta get a response.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
37. Whose authority are they under? What right do they have to be there?
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 07:39 PM
Oct 2024

None and zero. And Sean Hannity isn't authority, neither is Alex Jones. Neither is pretend authority. GTFO and stay out.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
46. These men are looking for opportunities to use the assault weapons they've invested in.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 11:27 AM
Oct 2024

This isn’t surprising.
.

Martin68

(27,741 posts)
47. Keep reporting these assholes every chance you get to everyone you can think of.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 12:02 PM
Oct 2024

Sooner or later they are going to kill someone and their actions need to be documented. Take photos and video of them if you dare. Or do it secretly.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
50. Sounds to me like some soldier-wannabe MAGAts.
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 02:04 PM
Oct 2024

I guess their Call of Duty game was canceled due to weather, so they had to do something with their cosplay outfits.

Response to Deep State Witch (Original post)

pfitz59

(12,701 posts)
53. Every major disaster draws opportunists and charlatans in droves
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 03:38 PM
Oct 2024

unavoidable. Keep letting the authorities know All will eventually be sorted out.

brakester

(602 posts)
54. I googled this
Sat Oct 5, 2024, 03:51 PM
Oct 2024

I googled "are there armed men patrolling in Black Mountain, NC. OCT 4, 2024?" and didn't get anything.
I live in an area in western North Carolina near this.

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