I guess no one is coming to Missouri.

[leftyladyfrommo]

I think we have just been written off.

[Walleye]

1. It's a damn shame, considering it is Harry Truman's state

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Fighting Hawley alone. Ugh.

Maybe a test of not stimulating the opposition. Stealth election.

[mucifer]

3. Ef the electoral college! All of our votes should be counted equally. They are not.

[madaboutharry]

4. Take this FWIW:

538 (I know) has Harris 12 points behind. I am sure the campaign's own internal polling is most likely similar.

[samnsara]

5. heck..even we here in Wash state get

...tim (briefly)

[leftyladyfrommo]

6. We are almost to elections and I still have

not seen a single sign except for 1 Hawley sign. Trump has lost a bunch of voters.

[lastlib]

9. I've been seeing a LOT of TSF's signs/flags....

...outside of KC metro/hinterlands. Precious few if any Harris signs, a couple of Kunce signs.

[Rebl2]

35. I have

Seen one trump sign and one Harris sign in my suburb of KC.

[displacedvermoter]

7. We sent some money to Kunce

I was led to believe he had a chance against Hawley, who is a traitorous coward.

Keep up the fight, I know it must be discouraging. Blessed to live where I do.

[DFW]

16. I sent him a couple of checks, but I suspected it was an uphill battle at best.

Keeping in mind what is said of the Pennsylvania electoral map, Missouri seems to consist of KC in the West, STL in the east, and the CSA in between.

[displacedvermoter]

23. John Goodman hit me up!

Does he have a chance? They should be running that video of Hawley escaping from his own ilk on January 6th day in and day out!

I like to believe that Hawley's presidential ambitions are shat away, at least.

[DFW]

26. There is that, at least

I briefly immortalized Hawley panic run in one of videos a while back. See if you can spot it!

[Gore1FL]

52. Part of St. Louis is filled with Trumpy idiots, too.

Springfield is probably the worst, though.

[Kid Berwyn]

8. If we don't try, we can't win.

Which really is a shame, as the more people learn about Harris and Walz, the more people like them.

Their coattails may be enough to dump fist-pumping traitor Josh Hawley.

[JI7]

56. We have tried many times and it's a red state

Do they not have access to the internet, television and other things?

[Nimble_Idea]

10. what is missouri?

joking aside, I hear people still live there. They come to the capital every now and then.

[Rebl2]

34. You spelled

It wrong. It’s Misery.

[cadoman]

11. I trust campaign polling but we have a candidate who can travel and fill stadiums..

...and is soundly winning in polls that aren't fraudulent.

Visits to states shouldn't be evaluated in isolation. They are investments in the future. Imagine how many young women would be going to a rally for the first female President, and remember that for the rest of their lives as lifelong Democrats?

[betsuni]

12. What? Why does anyone have to have candidates come to personally see them?

The U.S. is a very large country. I don't get this at all.

[former9thward]

50. That is what the Clinton campaign said in 2016 about the upper Midwest.

They regretted it the day after the election.

[H2O Man]

54. Thank you.

[tritsofme]

59. That sounds like a reason to not waste resources in non-competitive states like Missouri.

[former9thward]

60. I agree.

I would not waste any money in Missouri. But the poster I replied to seemed to think personal visits should not mean anything. They do.

[LexVegas]

13. Money and time are better spent in LOTS of other places. nt

[Takket]

14. Not recognized

?si=QJKXTZUA7Dzbhwfv

[Xavier Breath]

15. Abe Simpson, the misunderstood voice of reason.

[snowybirdie]

17. I remember well

when Bill Clinton ran, he promised to go to all 50 states while campaigning. He made it and beat the incumbent. Wish it was like that now. But with today's realities and focus on the Electoral college, I understand.

[jcgoldie]

18. thank you electoral college

thanks to you 90% of our votes are insignificant.

[quaint]

19. They only come here for money, but I don't mind.

Happy the State of California is that Blue.

[Retrograde]

42. City Council and School Board elections

are the big races around here. I've seen one Harris/Walz bumper sticker, a few leftover Biden/Harris signs, but otherwise all the yard signs are for local elections. Besides president, we're also have an election to fill Feinstein's senate seat, and the local Congressional seat (the incumbent is retiring after 30 some years) - one of the candidates for the latter is bombarding cable channels with ads, but I've heard nary a peep from Schif or his opponent, Whatshisname.

This area gets high turnout for elections and mostly votes Democratic, but it would be nice to see some big ticket candidates without having to pay upwards of $500 for the privilege.

[quaint]

47. I still have to look at the Tump 24 flag covering the garage door across the street, plus six yard signs.

Lots of American flags in my community flying all night without a light.
The only canvasser to my house was for Joe Kerr, who is a great D candidate with no chance of winning.

I cannot give my opinion of Adam Schiff on this board, and I hope Katie Porter is our next governor.

[BluRay76]

61. Porter as governor...

I hadn't thought about that! She's such a legislative branch powerhouse that I hadn't really considered her as governor (though I would be happy to see her in a Cabinet-level role). I was proud to vote for her in the Senate primary and would love the chance to vote for her for statewide office again. Seeing this post, I did a bit of searching and I am very pleased to see that she's at least considering it, and that she seems to have some early support.

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. I'm in Alabama. Never expected even ONE visit even though we could elect a Democratic Congressman.

Go Shamari FIgures!!!!!!

[milestogo]

22. And there are multiple visits to Wisconsin

Its like there are only 5-6 states that matter in the end.

The electoral college is bullshit.

[LymphocyteLover]

25. I so hope we can end the Electoral College madness in my lifetime

[LymphocyteLover]

24. same for Indiana... but Lucas Kunce is running a good independent Senate campaign against Hawley, I hear

[pstokely]

41. Missouri has been underpolled

nt

[LymphocyteLover]

48. meaning Harris could be competitive there with more money?

[pstokely]

49. probably not

but maybe the the GOV and Senate races are

[onetexan]

27. Problem is since Joe stepped down to endorse Kamala, there has been very little time

and given the criticality of the swing states it's understandable they are not going to invest in a state that is reliably red.

[Croney]

28. I am going to Columbia, Missouri, next week,

to visit family. I will notice yard signs while I'm there. If my Rethug relative's house has a piece of trash in the yard, it might be the victim of a midnight accident.

[Jeebo]

37. I live in Columbia.

I'm seeing Harris/Walz, Lucas Kunce, Crystal Quade (governor) signs all over the place. Almost no yard signs or bumper stickers for the orange con man. But then, Columbia is a blue oasis in a red desert. Still, I think Kunce has a good chance. Harris and Quade, alas, probably not so much. I'm seeing Lucas Kunce TV ads all the time and none for Quade. I wonder if that has something to do with Kunce having a much better chance? And I keep wondering, why isn't Quade running ads on TV?

The Missouri at Texas A&M football game is about to start, so I'm going to leave the computer now and plant myself in front of the 50-inch TV ...

-- Ron

[Croney]

40. It's good to know about the Harris signs! Maybe my stupid kin will be ashamed to show their stupidity in a sign.

[Ms. Toad]

29. I had hoped Harris/Walz would swing by Ohio

My daughter is excited about politics for the first time ever. She has always voted, since we drilled into her how important it is - usually based on a sample ballot I've filed it for her. Since the importance has felt more theoretical than real to her.

But she is excited this year - having me listen to a podcast by a young man who specializes in demolishing the MAGA crowd, sending me memes and videos, and even telling me that Harris missed her recent EOQ goals for funding.

Shortly after the Harris , she asked if I thought Harris would visit Ohio, since we should go to a rally. Is love to support her enthusiasm by taking her to a rally.

[Metaphorical]

30. Too many constraints

1. Time. Highly abbreviated campaign, by May most candidates have sewn up the primaries and can pivot to the general. Kamala didn't have that luxury. For all intents and purposes her campaign started in August.
2. Money. Thanks to Citizens United, these races have become extremely expensive, so everything becomes a cost/benefit analysis.
3. Commitments. Kamala Harris is Vice President, Tim Walz is a governor. These responsibilities don't go away simply because you are campaigning.

I do have to wonder though if, as they start leveraging more star power whether people like the Obamas or the Clintons could go to Alabama or Missouri, if only as a sign that Kamala is on the offensive (I consider Florida a target as well). The one big advantage that Harris has is that she is amassing an army of proxies, something that Trump is finding harder and harder to achieve (he's stiffed most of them).

[doc03]

31. They used to campaign in Ohio, nobody comes

here now. I see few campaign ads for Sharrod Brown. It's Marino ads sometimes back to back every break on TV. Is Brown that far ahead or have we just threw in the towel? Sixty miles away in Pittsburgh there are Harris/Walz rallies everyday.

[Diamond_Dog]

38. I was also hoping Brown would start putting more ads on TV this month

I mute the TV or change the channel during Moron-o ads. The one where the nice white lady complains that the attacks on Moron-o’s character are disgraceful just pushes my buttons.

[JI7]

58. It's all about where we have a realistic chance of winning. Especially this close to an election

Georgia and Arizona didn't always get the attention they are getting now .

And then there is Florida.

[UpInArms]

32. We are fighting for all of our candidates in Missouri, leftylady

just a quick story for you …. our local dems have been inundated with sign requests … and our coffers (notoriously always empty) have been receiving donations from folks we didn’t even know existed have been sending in money … we are running more ads weekly and will be doing a flyer insert that will have pretty good coverage … one side about all of our candidates (from Kamala on down to the county level) and the other side, explaining about project 2025.

Do not give up hope … we are in this to win.

[Ocelot II]

33. If this had been a normal election with a normal time frame

they probably would have. But since electorally speaking the US consists of only seven states, they are stuck with having to concentrate the campaign there. Maybe the Electoral College seemed like a good idea when there were just a few states and just a few people (and even fewer voters), but it's sure a crap deal now. They aren't coming to Minnesota either.

[Scrivener7]

36. What's more important to you: that they use their time and money strategically and get elected, or

that they come to your home town and home state, even though there is very little chance they will win there?

Because they can't win this without being strategic.

And hey, they haven't come to my blue area either. For the same reason.

[karynnj]

39. The reason is the EC and 2016

Remember all the criticism HRC got after Trump won because at the end of the race she spent time in states like Arizona rather than doubling down on securing the blue wall. In fact, she DID spend a lot of time in PA which she lost.

With Harris, there was no primary election, which is usually the time for visits to non swing states. I would love to see a Harris rally, but it would be crazy if she waisted time in Vermont, where she easily wins.

[krawhitham]

43. Looks that way, down 12 points in Missouri

[pstokely]

45. MO has been underpolled

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they haven't even been that many polls for the GOV and Senate races

[Skittles]

51. fucking disgusting

[pstokely]

44. were you expecting MO to be in play?

I think Kunce's chances are better than the beltway insiders think, I haven't seen any ads for Kehoe or Quade

[BWdem4life]

46. I wrote off Missouri when my ex-wife moved there.

[Gore1FL]

53. Democrats killed the 50-state strategy when they forced Dean out in favor of Wasserman-Schultz.

It was a bad long-term move.

[WhiteTara]

55. No one comes to Arkansas either.

[ananda]

57. I'm sorry.

I kinda thought we had enough for a fifty-state attack,
but maybe not.

[bob4460]

62. I think there will be some real surprises election night

Because of women ,the abortion issue and changing demographics.Younger people don't answer the phone for pollsters either so that is skewing the polls.

[pstokely]

63. Even many geezers don't answer numbers they don't recognize

We've been trained to assume they're bots, but geezers might think it's someone they haven't heard from in 50 years

[ecstatic]

64. Georgia was like that 8 years ago or so.

I can't remember exactly when it turned but when it did, I suddenly was getting all these texts and calls and polling. Hang in there! Lol