WTF MSNBC???

[Cirsium]

The Jonathan Capehart show started tonight with minute after minute after minute of Trump's Butler rally, raw and unfiltered. It went on and on. Even Fox isn't doing that for him anymore., are they?

That isn't news. That isn't political commentary. It's a campaign contribution.

[TexasTowelie]

1. It could be that it is a slow weekend for news. nt

[karynnj]

24. Not really

There is still a huge amount to convey about Helene, the approaching Milton, FEMA, and the Speaker saying that a supplemental for FEMA can "with" until after the election

The very scary expansion of a regional war in the Middle East.

The very positive economic results

The tentative settlement of the dock strike, which had the potential of harming the election

Every one of these especially the last two were undercovered while there was nothing particularly new about Trump's rants. Needless to say, it is rare when media gives anyone else that kind of unfiltered coverage.

[Bobstandard]

2. I agree. A campaign contribution

There's no excuse for this.

[RidinWithHarris]

3. No one is going to tune into MSNBC to get wooed by Trump

I admit it doesn't make much sense to air so much of a Trump rally, but I wouldn't worry too much that it was helping boost Trump at all.

[Cirsium]

29. Dangerous

His rhetoric is dangerous. Don't underestimate it. It is no longer about winning anyone over, it is about disruption and mayhem, incitement to violence.

[Cirsium]

40. It emboldens lunatics

It incites violence. It dominates the news to the exclusion of other topics. It confuses people.

It gives him legitimacy. It gives him power.

[cadoman]

4. not ready to throw out MSNBC yet, but not good to see them tilting to the right

CNN and the NYT used to be decent center-oriented places and slowly began to embrace MAGA narratives.

Hillary is right that we need to repeal or modify section 230. There needs to be liability for misinformation and accountability for reporting that amounts to political donations in kind.

[krkaufman]

8. Some say he needs to be heard ...

… so people can see how crazy he is; but what’s happening now is the media is just relaying his hate speech and fear-mongering, which is the Trump campaign’s some strategy. Just mind-numbing how the media has never figured it out.

[calimary]

10. Well, there is that.

[NJCher]

12. they're probably just lazy

It is the weekend, after all.

Still, no excuse.

[karynnj]

28. I admit I believed that in 2016, but after years of hearing the media

cover people regurgitating what Trump said as though because he said it it had to be true. Could part of the problem be almost a decade where he is rarely countered in real time? The Harris debate was a rare exception.

[Cirsium]

39. Exactly

It doesn't matter if people "like" Trump, he is constantly pounding away on people's grip on reality. So what if we don't "fall for it" or if we see through it? He doesn't need many to cause some really horrific consequences.

I don't think even his followers believe the things he says, but they like them. He makes them feel powerful, he makes them feel like they belong. He is a master propagandist, a manipualtor. He is extremely dangerous. Giving him a platform is irresponsible.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Be selective of when you watch. And how you filter it.

[Cirsium]

41. Sure

But I can't control what others watch and it isn't an issue of entertainment preferences really, is it?

No matter how much I avoid it or filter it I am still in danger from those who can't or won't.

[LiberalFighter]

46. You can't control that.

You can offset it a bit by letting others on social media know.

I sometimes will post what others do here to my accounts. Those reading my posts may already be on the same page. I generally add a few additional points that may strengthen how they respond to others.

[Bev54]

5. I have just had it on in the background and shut it off earlier tonight

because they were showing his rally and again just a few minutes ago. I cannot watch and cannot tolerate the fact that MSNBC would show any of it. I don't care if it is really bad, we do not need to see it, just tell us about it.

[Silent Type]

6. Doubt that changed any viewer's mind as far as voting for trump? I'm fine running him 24/7.

[SocialDemocrat61]

11. Speak for yourself

All you know is that it won't change your mind. You don't know if it will or will not change anyone else's mind.

[Silent Type]

16. I know that trump comes across as a POS. Some people like that, some don't. Hiding him doesn't help.

[SocialDemocrat61]

17. Yes you know that

So do I. But neither of us know how anyone else thinks. It’s not hiding him to give him free, unfiltered air time. That’s what they did in 16 and look where that got us.

[Silent Type]

19. OK. If I thought he looked good at rallies, I'd be concerned. but, I don't.

[SocialDemocrat61]

26. But that's how you think

You can’t speak to how anyone else thinks. Everyone thinks different.

[aocommunalpunch]

18. "Hiding him"? WTF?

You just don’t show him. Not even fucking close to the same thing. Exposure is what he wants and they give it to him. That’s all. Fuck MSNBC. Haven’t watched their trash for literally years and I am bathing in vindication. Christ.

[Silent Type]

20. Christ, he doesn't help himself. I'm sorry you feel that he does.

[Cirsium]

25. Hiding him?

Do you think he would ever have been a force had MSM not given him nonstop coverage leading up to the 2016 election?

His dangerous propaganda has been give a platform.

[Keepthesoulalive]

31. There are people who are receptive

To brainwashing like folks who go to evangelical churches. Repetition and cadence works on some folks and he with the help of Fox News has messed up a lot of people’s minds. Don’t give him a platform.

[Cirsium]

45. The threat of violence

Voting is not the issue. If you are fine with running Trump 24/7 then you are seriously underestimating the danger.

Historically running the sort of things Trump is saying 24/7 has not ended well; in Europe in the 30s, for example and in many places since: Yugoslavia, Myanmar, Rwanda

[krkaufman]

7. Similar on HuffPost

Blaring top headline all Saturday with “Trump Rally Live” … and nothing Re: Harris/Walz campaign.

[KPN]

9. Yeah, I tuned in on Sirius for about 3 minutes before almost puking and switching back to Classic Vinyl.

It was pretty shocking for me. WTF?

[CrispyQ]

30. Harris is going to be on Howard Stern, Stephen Colbert, & The View.

Howard's a great interviewer, IMO. His interview with Biden was really good.

[KPN]

36. Yesterday? If so, missed it. Thanks for the tip thbough.

[rubbersole]

13. That horse ain't gonna race itself.

[littlemissmartypants]

14. Awe...so fair and balanced...

What happened to the "equal time" rule?



I've not watched MSNBC in a long, long time. I get my news here and occasionally at Scripps News, BBC News, PBS NewsHour and Amanpour and Company. I also listen to the local public radio station.

I occasionally read the Kyiv Post at https://www.kyivpost.com/ Kyiv Independent here https://kyivindependent.com/ Ukrinform here https://www.ukrinform.net/ The New Voice of Ukraine https://english.nv.ua/ and I have a subscription to the Washington Post but I might read it once a week and I should probably cancel it.

Any other suggestions for news? I'm willing to explore. Thanks!

❤️ pants

[MichMan]

48. What equal time rule are you referring to?

[littlemissmartypants]

49. If one political party gets in kind advertisements the other is due the same.

It may not be an actual rule. More of a dead and buried now extinct gentleman's agreement.

From the good old days when almost every man was an actual gentleman. Or at least gave the impression that they aspired to be.

❤️

[MichMan]

56. It was ended by Congress 65 years ago, and never applied to cable

[littlemissmartypants]

15. FWIW: SoMe is awash with ridicule for the event.

Apparently, the so-called richest man and the fake billionaire looked pretty ridiculous and cringe is the operative word that dominates the comments.

Eloon looks high and DT looks perturbed in one very hilarious picture I saw. But I refuse to advertise their asinine, sophomoric sh¡t here.

❤️

[Rebl2]

22. Guess they

could not find anyone willing to come on the show because it’s just a sh___ show most of the time on msnbc anymore.

[CTyankee]

23. OMG, Capehart is always great IMO. I'll have to google this, because I usually find him to be very Left of center...

[Cirsium]

27. Might not be him

It may not have been Capehart's decision. It was his show.

[republianmushroom]

32. The medias golden cow, the convicted felon.

[JohnnyRingo]

35. I'm sure there will be more than equal time.

There will be forthcoming Harris specials to be sure, but they don't want to appear as an extension of the campaign.

[Kid Berwyn]

42. Capehart is a liar.

From Paste Magazine in 2016:

Lucky for me, this weekend provided the perfect subject. Jonathan Capehart is a writer for the Washington Post, and last Thursday, he wrote an opinion piece called “Stop sending around this photo of ‘Bernie Sanders.” I want to warn you now that this is a very minor example—a small, stupid example, in fact. I don’t think it will have any tangible effect on the primary race. Yet despite its relative insignificance, it serves as a perfect microcosm for the pattern that has emerged over and over and over again in this election cycle: A dishonest narrative propagated by a supposedly neutral journalist, with perfect timing, in an attempt to smear Bernie Sanders. This one hits all the right beats, including that epiphanic moment when we discover the journalist’s ties to Hillary Clinton, and the purpose of the hit pieces strikes with a terrible clarity.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/the-jonathan-capehart-saga-or-why-progressives-hav

[Cirsium]

47. Thanks

I remember that now. Capehart was so sleazy.

[riversedge]

44. Short video clips would have been better--with some analysis from msnbc or maybe

once a season. msnbc had its once a season now.
Maybe they thought they would make some money given that Elon Musk was to be a speaker??

[Deminpenn]

50. Capehart's explanation

for showing so much of it was that it was newsworthy because it was in Butler, PA at the same venue where Crooks just missed killing Trump. Musk being there was evidently a media draw, too.

[Cirsium]

54. Worse than I thought

I didn't leave it on to hear Capehart's explanation. His explanation is awful. Trump staged the whole thing as a propaganda stunt, a very dangerous one. It is right out of the Nazi playbook - the "chosen one with divine protection," the martyrdom and vengeance fantasies. Capehart gave Trump a platform for his stunt. He let it run and run and run through Trump's entire venomous message.

[Deminpenn]

55. Didn't watch it much either, but

did catch the explanation.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

51. I was also piss at this yesterday

[TommieMommy]

52. Exactly. I'm getting very disappointed in them

[pwb]

53. Yawn, to their fawning over that weirdo.

He has another month of forcing his presnts on us. We will be rid of him and I for one will be enjoying his decline to prisoner.