Jim Jones Strategy

[WiVoter]

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Sound familiar? Edited to add that this is not an accusation or implication. I’m asking a question here and wondering what you think.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Two attempts on tRump not fake, not arrranged. . . . . nt

[Orrex]

7. Well, one attempt, and one almost partially attempted attempt

[birdographer]

13. Second one was a concept of an attempt.

[Joinfortmill]

2. Nothing would surprise me.

[littlemissmartypants]

3. I actually heard that brought up right after the Butler incident. Anything's possible, imo. ❤️

[Botany]

4. Something about a 78 year old man getting a bullet wound on his ear that healed in less ..

… 2 weeks without leaving a mark doesn’t pass my smell test.

[BonnieJW]

5. I, too, am suspicious.

You can't blame us. These people lie and scheme every minute of each day.

If the assassination attempts didn't work to garner sympathy, thank the gods.

[Botany]

8. His jumping up and making a fist afterwards, his medical treatments we don't know about, his

oversized “bandage” that covered his entire ear even “the wound” was just on the top his ear
which was gone in less than a week, and now his return to the scene of the shooting in Butler,
PA for an encore to show his bravery all make me highly suspicious.

Now we do know that a man in PA who was somewhere close to Trump had his head blown
off and that multiple people told police about the location of the shooter prior to whatever
happened along with people on the right both in office and in the right wing media platforms
have tried to blame Vice President Harris or others on the left for the shooting too.

It just doesn’t pass my smell test @ all.

[KS Toronado]

10. Doesn't pass my smell test either, to many "if's & why's"

[PortTack]

11. It sure doesn't!

[Orrex]

18. His response after being "shot" tells us two things:

Either he didn't know that he was in real danger, or he knew that he wasn't in real danger.

[dalton99a]

6. +1

[Hope22]

14. I so wish the school children were half as lucky! N/t

[OLDMDDEM]

9. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

[trickyrick3]

12. Collateral damage

The fact that they could just pay off the surviving wife of the deceased to make things "right" makes it seem premeditated. In their minds, the fatality is collateral damage.

[Martin68]

15. I really doubt the assassination attempt against Trump was staged. If the Secret Service had done their job correctly,

there never would have been a single shot fired. To posit a conspiracy would require the Secret Service and local police to be involved. Highly unlikely.

[Orrex]

19. Fair enough, but it's curious that they let him expose his head and torso before clearing the scene

I mean, in that moment, I suppose his entire SS team could have decided that it was a great time for a t-shirt-ready photo op, so they'd let him provide a big target for a second shooter, but it seems more likely that they'd drag him from the scene entirely before stopping for pics.

Also, it's amazing that an obese 78-year-old in dubious health would fully recover from a bullet wound in a few days' time without so much as a stitch or a bruise or a scar. My friend's very healthy 11 year old had to have an earring surgically removed from her earlobe, and it left her with two stitches, bruising, and a bandage for a week.

What a courageous superman this Trump fellow must be!

[Martin68]

20. Trump is a total idiot, and the SS constantly had to struggle to protect him because he is unaware of anything other

than his own awesomeness. I suspect that having butted heads with him over 7 years, they stopped taking the job seriously. That was a mistake. There were multiple failures that led to the actual positioning and shooting.

[Towlie]

16. Wikipedia has a very thorough accounting of Jim Jones and his cult but doesn't mention this.

I couldn't find any mention of a faked assassination attempt in Wikipedia's very lengthy and thorough accounting of Jim Jones and his cult. By itself this doesn't invalidate any conspiracy theories about Trump's assassination attempts, but it does cast some suspicion on this supposed "Jim Jones Strategy".

[moondust]

17. It was discussed here a bit last month.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219477737

I can't vouch for any of these sources.

From 2021:

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After Jones moved his Peoples Temple church from Indiana to California in 1965, he was no longer satisfied leading his followers. He wanted to control them. He continued his fake healings of members at church services, staged assassination attempts on his life, and demanded sex from male and female followers alike, among other things.
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https://markstricherz.com/the-best-book-on-jonestown-came-out-in-1982-thats-a-problem/

Attorney in 2020:
In California, Jones staged assassination attempts on himself, and then, in Jonestown, a fake invasion where terrified Jonestown residents fled to the central pavilion, hunkering down for six days as they took turns guarding the building.17