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This is just an excerpt on the topic of abortion. There was more to the overall interview
Here is another clip focusing on the economy
hlthe2b
(113,241 posts)uniformly good on these). Save me a stress-filled morning and give me a clue, will you?
FoxNewsSucks
(11,560 posts)that while Walz and others go on the Fox "news" Sewer, MF45 and Shady JD are MIA from interviews and appearances . Rarely going on even friendly networks.
Walz did great.
Montauk6
(9,331 posts)Kali
(56,701 posts)remember when Amy held Bill Clinton to account?
Montauk6
(9,331 posts)But Big Dog didn't cut and run either!
Tribetime
(7,100 posts)Tesha
(21,112 posts)Until they get the answer they are looking for.
Governor Walz did a great job, he remained steadfast and clear.
Botany
(76,744 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)
about, babies be born alive are not being protected in Minnesota which is pure bullshit. Killing a
baby is called murder and it illegal in every state in the country. Fox really is a cancer on America.
The Coach was spot on when he said this is not an issue for political gain but about protecting a
womans right for health care.
Ms. Bream was lying about Amber Thurman in Georgia medical emergency was from an
abortion pill and she could have gotten medical help in Georgia. I believe Amber had a
miscarriage and the hospital did not do a D. & C., she got sepsis, then organ failure, by
the time they tried to do something her body had gone into shock and she died because
of Christo Fascist shits and their laws.
Remember Amber
peggysue2
(12,445 posts)Once you set up a situation where doctors are terrified of being prosecuted and losing their medical licenses, you automatically restrict women from receiving basic reproductive healthcare. Any procedure that has a whiff of abortion-related uses like a D&C will provoke this reaction, even though D&Cs are regularly used for miscarriage complications to prevent exactly what Amber Thurman experienced. D&Cs are used for polyp and fibroid treatments and excess menstrual bleeding as well.
The forced birth community and Fox News can couch this in any language they choose. It's still monstrous and anti-women. We'll see more unnecessary death and suffering as long as this nonsense prevails..
BattleRow
(2,147 posts)LauraInLA
(2,248 posts)the D&C until it was too late.
Botany
(76,744 posts)
.. but Amber had had a miscarriage that went bad. However the case it was still a needless death
because of Republican laws.
ShazzieB
(22,347 posts)I have read that in multiple sources, including this one: https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death
I think it's important to be sure we're reporting the facts accurately, even though it's a moot point, in a way. What Thurman experienced was medically indistinguishable from an incomplete miscarriage. In both cases, the pregnancy is, to all intents and purposes, over, but the woman's uterus has failed to fully discharge its contents. And as you know, the treatment needed is the same: a d&c to finish an irreversible process that has already begun.
Unfortunately, these days it's almost impossible for woman to receive this treatment in a state where abortion has been banned and criminalized, until and unless she is literally at death's door. Doctors have to walk a tightrope trying to determine how bad things have to get before they can perform a d&c without going to prison for literally saving a woman's life. (!)
It's a very difficult needle to thread, and sometimes, as in Amber Thurman's case, the results are tragic.
IbogaProject
(5,699 posts)Doctors still have to treat criminals with gunshot injuries so they should also treat any pregnancy issues. Cops and any judicial process can follow later. I absolutely abhor having unqualified religious nuts, fascists and politicians writing these dangerous laws.
JustAnotherGen
(37,776 posts)I wish he had said:
The hospital was BOUND by the Georgia Abortion ban.
awesomerwb1
(5,041 posts)Pathetic fox news
Bayard
(29,005 posts)But he did very well.
Killing live babies? What hogwash!
paleotn
(21,859 posts)Red Mountain
(2,283 posts)you can hear it early on. Not sure if it was intentional but it made it easy for her to make 'statements' while Walz had to sit there waiting to hear what was coming.
sdfernando
(6,041 posts)I would have pushed back.
1st: I'd call her out for the constant interruptions and not letting me (Walz) finish the answer.
2nd: I'd say something like: Look Shannon, you're a respected journalist (wretch!) on a major news outlet, you're intelligent (another wretch!), you're a woman. You know the score. How can you continue to prostitute yourself to the obvious lies about the abortion issue, to this "news" network?. Shame on you! How can you continue to degrade yourself like this? Its shameful!
One can dream, right?
thesquanderer
(12,922 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,091 posts)Her initial question even stated that there was no restriction BASED ON THE TERM of the pregnancy, that is, how many weeks into the pregnancy the woman is.
Then she asks if it is true that there are NO LIMITS on abortion in his state.
He should ALWAYS reply, no that is not true. Directly. Not after "Kamala and I have been very clear, blah blah." (I LOVE this guy and I get tired of hearing that in every reply.)
Of course the interviewer will jump all over him but he can easily say that it is of course limited by the conscience of the doctor. Hopefully he can say more. Presumably it is also limited by medical board and licensure rules. I hope - but don't know if it is true - that there is a rule that if the fetus is viable and in the judgment of the medical team, the fetus can be delivered without excessive risk to the mother, then it MUST be delivered vs. opting for some approach that would kill this viable fetus. (This is the confusion for people on the anti side of the abortion debate - they seem to think that viable fetuses are being routinely killed. I do not believe this is true, and we should make that clear).
If I were a father to-be and the doctor killed my viable baby rather than deliver it alive, for no good reason - then I would probably be a bit pissed and probably sue that doctor. THAT is a "limit" on doctors just willy-nilly killing viable fetuses for no good reason.
I am sure there are more nuances to the legal details but this question will be asked over and over (and already has been). He needs a firm, direct, truthful, and compelling and SUCCINCT reply.
Edit to add (speaking of failure to be succinct, ha ha): the point is that the limit on abortion is NOT based on the term of the pregnancy, but that does NOT mean that there are NO Limits on abortion. Just that it is not based on gestational age.
