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indigovalley

(289 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:24 AM Oct 2024

Tim Walz on FoxNews

Last edited Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:14 PM - Edit history (1)

This is just an excerpt on the topic of abortion. There was more to the overall interview

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Tim Walz on FoxNews (Original Post) indigovalley Oct 2024 OP
Was his entire Fox interview GOOD? I hold my breath watching Fox interviews--of anyone (albeit Buttigieg is hlthe2b Oct 2024 #1
I can't help but note FoxNewsSucks Oct 2024 #2
Yeah, let's see Trump or Vance go on Democracy Now, they so big and bad Montauk6 Oct 2024 #10
to be fair not many of "ours" go on DN! either Kali Oct 2024 #13
True... True... Montauk6 Oct 2024 #17
I was just going to post this.He did great Tribetime Oct 2024 #3
Interviewers will keep asking the same question... Tesha Oct 2024 #4
The Coach did great. Shannon Bream (I had to look up who she was) kept pushing the false meme ... Botany Oct 2024 #5
Absolutely peggysue2 Oct 2024 #8
She didn't couch the coach! BattleRow Oct 2024 #11
No, Amber Thurman had used an abortion pill. But once she was in distress, the hospital delayed LauraInLA Oct 2024 #15
No doubt you are right but I have read that the woman who died after an abortion pill was in a different state Botany Oct 2024 #18
Thurman definitely used an abortion pilll. ShazzieB Oct 2024 #20
Even if an abortion pill was illegal there is still a duty to care IbogaProject Oct 2024 #19
At around 2:56 JustAnotherGen Oct 2024 #6
Blondie was trying really hard too have the "last word" wasn't she? awesomerwb1 Oct 2024 #7
Constant interruptions so Walz couldn't finish many answers Bayard Oct 2024 #9
"....bubble headed bleach blonde comes on at 5...." - Don Henley - Dirty Laundry. paleotn Oct 2024 #16
There seemed to be a slight delay Red Mountain Oct 2024 #12
If I was being interviewed by that woman sdfernando Oct 2024 #14
Nah, the headline would be that you called her a prostitute. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2024 #22
He did great but I wish he (and others) would (have) pointed out RandomNumbers Oct 2024 #21

hlthe2b

(113,241 posts)
1. Was his entire Fox interview GOOD? I hold my breath watching Fox interviews--of anyone (albeit Buttigieg is
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:30 AM
Oct 2024

uniformly good on these). Save me a stress-filled morning and give me a clue, will you?

FoxNewsSucks

(11,560 posts)
2. I can't help but note
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 10:33 AM
Oct 2024

that while Walz and others go on the Fox "news" Sewer, MF45 and Shady JD are MIA from interviews and appearances . Rarely going on even friendly networks.

Walz did great.

Tesha

(21,112 posts)
4. Interviewers will keep asking the same question...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:11 AM
Oct 2024

Until they get the answer they are looking for.

Governor Walz did a great job, he remained steadfast and clear.

Botany

(76,744 posts)
5. The Coach did great. Shannon Bream (I had to look up who she was) kept pushing the false meme ...
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:11 AM
Oct 2024

Last edited Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)

… about, “babies be born alive” are not being protected in Minnesota which is pure bullshit. Killing a
baby is called murder and it illegal in every state in the country. Fox really is a cancer on America.

The Coach was spot on when he said this is not an issue for political gain but about protecting a
woman’s right for health care.

Ms. Bream was lying about Amber Thurman in Georgia medical emergency was from an
abortion pill and she could have gotten medical help in Georgia. I believe Amber had a
miscarriage and the hospital did not do a D. & C., she got sepsis, then organ failure, by
the time they tried to do something her body had gone into shock and she died because
of Christo Fascist shits and their laws.

Remember Amber

peggysue2

(12,445 posts)
8. Absolutely
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:45 AM
Oct 2024

Once you set up a situation where doctors are terrified of being prosecuted and losing their medical licenses, you automatically restrict women from receiving basic reproductive healthcare. Any procedure that has a whiff of abortion-related uses like a D&C will provoke this reaction, even though D&Cs are regularly used for miscarriage complications to prevent exactly what Amber Thurman experienced. D&Cs are used for polyp and fibroid treatments and excess menstrual bleeding as well.

The forced birth community and Fox News can couch this in any language they choose. It's still monstrous and anti-women. We'll see more unnecessary death and suffering as long as this nonsense prevails..

LauraInLA

(2,248 posts)
15. No, Amber Thurman had used an abortion pill. But once she was in distress, the hospital delayed
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:36 PM
Oct 2024

the D&C until it was too late.

Botany

(76,744 posts)
18. No doubt you are right but I have read that the woman who died after an abortion pill was in a different state
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:48 PM
Oct 2024

….. but Amber had had a miscarriage that went bad. However the case it was still a needless death
because of Republican laws.

ShazzieB

(22,347 posts)
20. Thurman definitely used an abortion pilll.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:59 PM
Oct 2024

I have read that in multiple sources, including this one: https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death

I think it's important to be sure we're reporting the facts accurately, even though it's a moot point, in a way. What Thurman experienced was medically indistinguishable from an incomplete miscarriage. In both cases, the pregnancy is, to all intents and purposes, over, but the woman's uterus has failed to fully discharge its contents. And as you know, the treatment needed is the same: a d&c to finish an irreversible process that has already begun.

Unfortunately, these days it's almost impossible for woman to receive this treatment in a state where abortion has been banned and criminalized, until and unless she is literally at death's door. Doctors have to walk a tightrope trying to determine how bad things have to get before they can perform a d&c without going to prison for literally saving a woman's life. (!)

It's a very difficult needle to thread, and sometimes, as in Amber Thurman's case, the results are tragic.



IbogaProject

(5,699 posts)
19. Even if an abortion pill was illegal there is still a duty to care
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:37 PM
Oct 2024

Doctors still have to treat criminals with gunshot injuries so they should also treat any pregnancy issues. Cops and any judicial process can follow later. I absolutely abhor having unqualified religious nuts, fascists and politicians writing these dangerous laws.

Bayard

(29,005 posts)
9. Constant interruptions so Walz couldn't finish many answers
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 11:52 AM
Oct 2024

But he did very well.

Killing live babies? What hogwash!

Red Mountain

(2,283 posts)
12. There seemed to be a slight delay
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 2024

you can hear it early on. Not sure if it was intentional but it made it easy for her to make 'statements' while Walz had to sit there waiting to hear what was coming.

sdfernando

(6,041 posts)
14. If I was being interviewed by that woman
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:30 PM
Oct 2024

I would have pushed back.

1st: I'd call her out for the constant interruptions and not letting me (Walz) finish the answer.
2nd: I'd say something like: Look Shannon, you're a respected journalist (wretch!) on a major news outlet, you're intelligent (another wretch!), you're a woman. You know the score. How can you continue to prostitute yourself to the obvious lies about the abortion issue, to this "news" network?. Shame on you! How can you continue to degrade yourself like this? Its shameful!

One can dream, right?

RandomNumbers

(19,091 posts)
21. He did great but I wish he (and others) would (have) pointed out
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 02:12 PM
Oct 2024

Her initial question even stated that there was no restriction BASED ON THE TERM of the pregnancy, that is, how many weeks into the pregnancy the woman is.

Then she asks if it is true that there are NO LIMITS on abortion in his state.

He should ALWAYS reply, no that is not true. Directly. Not after "Kamala and I have been very clear, blah blah." (I LOVE this guy and I get tired of hearing that in every reply.)

Of course the interviewer will jump all over him but he can easily say that it is of course limited by the conscience of the doctor. Hopefully he can say more. Presumably it is also limited by medical board and licensure rules. I hope - but don't know if it is true - that there is a rule that if the fetus is viable and in the judgment of the medical team, the fetus can be delivered without excessive risk to the mother, then it MUST be delivered vs. opting for some approach that would kill this viable fetus. (This is the confusion for people on the anti side of the abortion debate - they seem to think that viable fetuses are being routinely killed. I do not believe this is true, and we should make that clear).

If I were a father to-be and the doctor killed my viable baby rather than deliver it alive, for no good reason - then I would probably be a bit pissed and probably sue that doctor. THAT is a "limit" on doctors just willy-nilly killing viable fetuses for no good reason.

I am sure there are more nuances to the legal details but this question will be asked over and over (and already has been). He needs a firm, direct, truthful, and compelling and SUCCINCT reply.

Edit to add (speaking of failure to be succinct, ha ha): the point is that the limit on abortion is NOT based on the term of the pregnancy, but that does NOT mean that there are NO Limits on abortion. Just that it is not based on gestational age.

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